The College Student: Nature's entitlement Whore.

[rerant]

Well, that's my feeling on it too. The moment you leave anything you own unattended and unsecured, you assume all risk for it. If there wasn't a secure place for it there, it shouldn't have been left there, and nobody put a gun to thier head and told them to drop it outside.

But it's the school who is telling them to leave their belongings behind, under the assumption that they will be safe.
Like AdminAssistant said, time constraints may not always allow a stop off at your dorm to leave your things in your room.

No one put a gun to their head, but no one let them use the alternate option of keeping their belongings with them.

I'm really on the side of the students here (though not this particular one because he sounds like a major douche). College tuition is damn expensive and students who are paying out the ass to be there should be allowed the security of their belongings.

Like I said in my other response, I think something as simple as a coat-check system would be fair. It wouldn't cost the school money in the way that a locked compartment would, and would offer some assurance that someone else isn't walking off with your stuff.

Fair is fair. If you're going to tell the students to leave their things in a particular spot you have to make sure that spot will keep their items safe.

[eltf177]

But it's the school who is telling them to leave their belongings behind, under the assumption that they will be safe.
Like AdminAssistant said, time constraints may not always allow a stop off at your dorm to leave your things in your room.

No one put a gun to their head, but no one let them use the alternate option of keeping their belongings with them.

I'm really on the side of the students here (though not this particular one because he sounds like a major douche). College tuition is damn expensive and students who are paying out the ass to be there should be allowed the security of their belongings.

Like I said in my other response, I think something as simple as a coat-check system would be fair. It wouldn't cost the school money in the way that a locked compartment would, and would offer some assurance that someone else isn't walking off with your stuff.

Fair is fair. If you're going to tell the students to leave their things in a particular spot you have to make sure that spot will keep their items safe.

When did not bringing in textbooks and knapsacks become a law? Back when I was in college _everybody_ brought in stuff as there wasn't always time to take it back to your room. And you were allowed to take small quantities of food with you (although some of us did over do it from time to time).

And at my college you had no choice; if you lived on campus you paid the meal plan whether or not you ate. And the food was _terrible_!

[PepperElf]

Personally.... it's a college paper. unless it's written in your contract somehwere, there's no rules that say you can't write your own response.

In my own opinion... a good solution... Those little key-lockers you see at Disney or various parks. Put a quarter in, get a key. And since they're cheap kids... they get the quarter back when they're done.

Of course you'll also have to post giant signs stating that overnight storage is not allowed and all items will be removed / confiscated... but hey ... they're going to whine no matter what anyway,

[technical.angel]

PepperElf beat me to it. You'll have to head of food service write it (or sign his or her name to it) but the paper should (might have to) print a rebuttal.

[STEELMAN]

I agree with the op. The cafeteria has a policy to deter theft. It is their right to have whatever policy they want. If any student does not like this policy they have the right to not go there, or not bring their bag. Isn't that the definition of entitlement, expecting someone to change their policy because it is inconvenient for you?

[Chanlin]

Am I the only one who saw the fact that the kid complained, put his bag in the office, then got his bag from the office all casual and then said that just anyone could have walked into the office to get his stuff.

Um... The employees know it was his bag, he complained, and they let him put it in the office. What a tool.

I also second the guys is and idiot for basically advertising that just anyone could come steal bags.

I do agree though that they should provide a more secure location if they are going to make this a requirement. If this campus is anything like the typical campus it is impossible to watch the comings and goings of every single person.

For someone like me I commute to the campus so taking the bag back to my car would mean walking to wherever I parked which would mean about 20 minutes round trip extra depending on where I parked. Unless I'm done with classes for the day I don't have that kind of time. Also the dorms are on the opposite side of campus from the student union where the main food court/cafeteria is, the same could be true of the campus in the OP, thats a good 20 to 30 minutes worth of walking just to put a bag away in the dorm. (assuming you started on the same end of the campus as the Union).

[redmountaingoldfish]

If any student does not like this policy they have the right to not go there, or not bring their bag. Isn't that the definition of entitlement, expecting someone to change their policy because it is inconvenient for you?

I don't know how other colleges works, but here if you live in the residence halls you MUST have a meal plan. And most people paying thousands for dorm food, they don't really have an option not to go eat there.

I've also had days where I would go all day without being able to run back to my room, drop off my stuff, eat, pick up my stuff, and head back to class.

I totally agree with the students, even if the guy in the post was an ass about it.

[John Nemo]

i forgot to mention, we do have a small bank of lockable cubbies. the only thing they have to supply is the lock.

our food is actually really good, but because we only order so much {a policy i dont agree with} we literally dont have enough for everyone to get as much as they want. i assure you, everyone gets something, but....

let me give an example. a while ago, st patricks day to be precise, we had a small supply of cornbeef for dinner. now, we would have had more than enough for everyone, had not the sue chief used 3/4ths of it at lunch. as such, we had at most, three pans of the stuff, and had to use it sparingly.

and then here comes the frat boys. a small group of them, and all registered douches. upon being told they could only get so much, the primary at the protein line, {i was stationed elsewhere, but i would come in to help.} wasnt firm enough, and told them all they had to do was get back into line. by the time they were through, we were done to one and a half pans. i should also mention, we stay open till 7:00 for dinner. and it was already 5:30.

[Chanlin]

Ok, now the lockable cubbies I can do with. If these people know the policy, and know the lockable cubbies exist then it shouldn't take much for them to shell out the extra few bucks for a lock if they are so worried about their belongings.

[myswtghst]

Coming back now that the article was posted - what a little $hit.

I have to agree with others on here - while you may be required to pay for a meal plan, most colleges let you get away with what I did - buy the cheapest plan and use it occasionally. It is as it is with any business - they're trying to make money and prevent theft, and if you don't like their policy, there's no reason to expect they'll change it for you.

What whiny boy there could have done was started some type of campaign by providing suggestions for improvement and a way to get them implemented - using his powers for good, not entitlement-minded whining. Suggest that they put in those little lockers you pay a quarter for, and come up with a fundraiser idea to get them installed. Or help get funding or volunteers to work as coat check there.

[John Nemo]

i should also mention, its not that we dont let people to get to-go boxes; i've gotten them for them myself. you have to ask for one, and you have to have a vaild reason. classes, meetings, that sort of thing.

what we dont allow are people grabbing other food or plates or silverware or cups and shoving them in their bags because they dont want to go down to a store and buy their own. likewise abusing the all you can eat clause, one i very much dont agree with.

a year ago, a fellow co-worker told me of a student who returned two full trashbags of our stuff from the summer clean up of the dorms. she was astounded.

[Andara Bledin]

Like I said in my other response, I think something as simple as a coat-check system would be fair. It wouldn't cost the school money in the way that a locked compartment would, and would offer some assurance that someone else isn't walking off with your stuff.

Fair is fair. If you're going to tell the students to leave their things in a particular spot you have to make sure that spot will keep their items safe.

I do agree though that they should provide a more secure location if they are going to make this a requirement. If this campus is anything like the typical campus it is impossible to watch the comings and goings of every single person.

The problem here is that if they provide what is a more secure location (such as anything with locks that they provide), then they become liable for anything left there. Sure, they can have the standard posted "not responsible" comments, but once they are providing the locks, that gives them a certain level of responsibility they should not have to take on if they don't want to.

I agree with the op. The cafeteria has a policy to deter theft. It is their right to have whatever policy they want. If any student does not like this policy they have the right to not go there, or not bring their bag. Isn't that the definition of entitlement, expecting someone to change their policy because it is inconvenient for you?

What he said.

^-.-^

[John Nemo]

okay, i need to post this. this is a response to my response to the kids article.


and now i'm pissed...

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I think you’re too busy sounding strange and stilted to comprehend what the author is actually saying. He’s not accusing the G staff of stealing–he’s criticizing their inability to properly watch our bags, which puts our belongings at risk of being stolen by other students. I understand why the policy is in place, but it IS an inconvenience to walk back to your dorm just to put away your bag, especially if 1) you only have 30 minutes for dinner, 2) are coming straight from class, and 3) live in a dorm on the other side of campus. G should be considerate of the “students they endeavor to serve” by providing us with more locked cubbies, complimentary locks, etc. Just my snarky two cents.

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considering responding, most likely just letting it go. entitlement doesnt respond to logic unfortunately.

[TryNotToBeThatOne]

What I think would be great is an option at enrollment for students to put money on a grocery store gift card either in addition to or in place of dining hall fees (that, or work with local grocery stores where the cash portion of a student ID could be used at the store). For some reason I get the feeling that in reality this would never fly...

Um, they have that at my alma mater. Sort of. There's a mini-grocery store on campus and you can use your pre-paid card there (& for regular meals in the dining hall). It's also one of the few schools without a mandatory meal plan (beyond fall semester of freshman year).

[Nyx]

for those interested, heres the article in question. the names have been changed to protect my bank account: .............

What a sniveling little shit!