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  • So, you already complained to the CEO, huh?

    ...then what good would coming in here do?

    This one's long, as most of mine tend to be, but I tend not to post till I have someone that REALLY pisses me off.

    Had an interesting one yesterday. As you know, I work in sales. We have a relatively new guy, and I was working with him on Sunday because a new ad broke in the paper and the company wanted to make sure we had someone experienced on the floor when customers came in.

    You know those customers that just come in with a huge chip on their shoulders, itching for a fight? One came in while I was closing another customer and the new kid, K, went to handle her. As I'm working with my own couple, I'm keeping a close ear on K and this woman, since he is knew and easily gets overwhelmed when it comes to product knowledge and policies, so I can bail him out if he gets over his head.

    As I'm finishing writing up this couple on a final sale, I hear a very common complaint from the SC. "You mean I even have to pay delivery on this?" I hear this quite a bit, because yes, we DO charge for delivery as opposed to including it in the cost of the furniture. Our warehouse is over 100 miles away, so yeah, it takes an effort to deliver furniture.

    So I finish writing up the couple and I can see K is in some serious distress because the customer is chewing him out about our company policies. I don't mean complaining - I mean REALLY tearing him a new one. I walk over to the area to straighten a few things and to eavesdrop on the conversation. This is what I hear:

    SC: Well, I have already written a complaint to [name of CEO] regarding your illegal practices. You're just making it up in the cost of delivery.
    K: Ma'am, I can't change the delivery charges.
    SC: I owned a business for ten years and I am appaled at this. It's illegal to not have the product available for immediate pickup or delivery. And I know you can waive delivery, you're just being unaccomodating and refusing to help me, and that's a mistake on your part.

    So at this point I step in to try and take some relief off of K.

    Me: Ma'am, what seems to be illegal?
    SC: You cannot have a product that you buy that is not immediately available.
    Me: You're right. However, when you order furniture through us, you're doing just that - you're ORDERING. You're agreeing to our contract that it will take some time to get the furniture.
    SC: That's illegal.
    Me: No ma'am, it is not. We give you all the details and you can choose not to purchase from us at any time. The reason some of our items are showing a time quote of a few weeks is because it's a week after our Labor Day sale, and our inventory is completely cleaned out on a few of our pieces.

    (Fun fact: It IS considered illegal to advertise an item that you do not have to DISPLAY, and I think this is what she was going on about. For example, if you wait until the last day of a sale and only the display model is left, it is illegal to sell the display model in case someone else wants to see it, and order it when it is backordered. 99/100 times people understand this, but not this woman.)

    She narrows her eyes at me and I instantly recognize the type of customer she is. I've seen only two the entire two years I've worked here, and it's the type of customer who takes up a crusade against something that doesn't even involve her and just tries to make your life a living hell. It doesn't have to be an SC, you know the stereotype. They come in, just to complain when they haven't even shopped, or they see complaints about our company on the internet and decide to walk in and inform us of them in a very confrontational manner. Lady, the one with the issue lived in Maryland and it happend back in 2002. I live in San Diego and it's 2006. What the hell do you expect me to do about it?)

    SC: Excuse me, I was talking with this gentleman here. Why did you step in?
    Me: Ma'am, he's relatively new, and while he is very good at product knowledge, he wouldn't have been able to answer your questions. I'm the manager on duty for today.
    SC: Why did you step in?
    Me: Well, I heard you had already written a complaint to the CEO of the company, and I was curious if it was over some confusion of our policies that I would be able to clear up.
    SC: What's your name?
    Me: Kusanagi.
    SC: :scowling: Don't insult me. What's your last name?
    Me: I don't give out my last name.
    SC: Well, Kusanagi, I sugguest you just remain curious because I am speaking to someone who is less adversarial than you.

    Oh no she di'n't. I get pissed, but go back to fluffing pillows, praying to whatever god exists that karma will bite her in the ass. Then she starts belittiling the company to my trainee, and I decide this needs to stop.

    Me: Ma'am, can I ask you a question? Why did you come in here today?
    SC: Excuse me?
    Me: Have you ever bought from here before?
    SC: No, and you're being very rude.
    Me: So you aren't a customer, you have not bought from us so you have never experienced how we do things, and you've already written to the CEO saying how our business practices are illegal, when I have clearly explained how they are not because you are ordering and not purchasing outright. What did you hope to accomplish by coming in here today, if you're apparently having corrospondence with the president of the company? This has absolutely nothing to do with us anymore, since you've gone directly to him.
    SC: I thought I told you to mind your own business.
    Me: When you come in here for the pure purpose of stirring up a fight or trying to circumvent our policies, then it does become my business.

    SC is flabbergasted.

    SC: How DARE you accuse me of circumventing!
    Me: Since you seem to take the position that you know our policies, and have already written the CEO about them, why were you trying to get around the delivery fee and haggle to get it delivered for free?
    SC: I'm going to be writing another letter. And I will never shop here again. Now, WHAT IS YOUR LAST NAME?
    Me: I already said, I'm not giving it to you. And you have never shopped here in the first place, and frankly, anyone who would come in here to try and take advantage of a new associate who is not familiar with our policies is not welcome to do business with us. You came in here today for the express purpose of either starting a fight or to try to get the showroom associates to give you free delivery on an item.
    SC: No, I didn't!
    Me: I heard you, ma'am. I heard you trying to haggle to get the delivery for free.
    K: That's right, you were, and I told you three times we couldn't do it.
    Me: So you've written to the CEO about one of the very same policies you're trying to get the new associate to waive, and you expect me to believe you now when you say that you never knew our delivery wasn't included in the price?

    She knew I caught her, and she was PISSED.

    SC: Give. Me. Your. Last. Name. NOW.
    Me: No. Now, is there anything else I can help you with?
    SC: NOW.
    Me: No.
    SC: Give me your last name now or I am calling the police.
    Me: Go right ahead and call them.
    SC: I can't believe you. I have written to the president of the company, I WILL be writing him again about you, and you(pointing to K). How DARE you talk back to me. Do you know who I am? (Oh god I love this line)
    Me: (grins and crosses arms) You're someone who came in here to try to pull a fast one on us and not only didn't think it wouldn't work, but you didn't expect that someone would actually call you out on it. stand up to you and not cave in. Now, is there anything else I can help you with?
    SC: Absolutely not!
    Me: Then get out.

    Turns around and storms out. I wonder if I'll get any fallout from this one. K looked at me and I tell him "K, that's the third time I've ever mouthed back to a customer. You can refuse to serve anyone the minute they act like a shithead, and never let them threaten you. Don't threaten them back, but don't back down."

    He bought me lunch
    "Time shall help me face my painful memories with indifference, and with more of it, I won't feel the need to face them at all..."

  • #2
    Bravo!

    If you catch flak for that, move back to Maryland I'll see if I can find you a job. That was brilliant!

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    • #3
      Bravo! I've rarely seen it done better. There was no way you could have handled that better in my opinion. You were firm, you stood up for your employee (something that makes you a good manager), and you didn't cave to the waste of food and oxygen.

      Bravo!
      I never lost my faith in humanity. Can't lose what you never had right?

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      • #4
        Oh, man. You are AWESOME. Nice!

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        • #5
          That. Was. Freaking. Awesome.
          Aerodynamics are for people who can't build engines. --Enzo Ferrari

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          • #6
            You may catch some flak because management always has their head up their a**es. However, you did the reasonable thing. You need to point out to anyone who complains, that the customer was wasting employee time that could have been spent helping other companies especially considering that she never intended to buy anything, but only to argue about a policy.

            You can also point out how the customer was bad mouthing the company in the store. This was negative word of mouth that you didn't feel should be spread to other customers shopping. Put it in terms that a "suit" can understand. Also point out the fact that you informed her that you could not waive the policy and then asked her if there was anything else you could help her with. This will help get it across to management that you were trying to help a customer, but that she wasn't a true customer.

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            • #7
              ...what was she going to call the police over? I mean, that statement might have made sense while she was telling you what you were doing was "illegal" but when you wouldn't give your last name?

              I know, I know, I'm trying to read the SC mind and it's like trying to pick a good wrestling show off the weather channel. But seriously...what? I mean, that's so completely nonsensical that my brain is just plain rejecting it.

              Is this my Asperger's acting up or do other people see this, too?
              "Maybe the problem just went away...maybe it was the magical sniper fairy that comes and gives silenced hollow point rounds to people who don't eat their vegetables."

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              • #8
                I think it's because you're trying to make sense of it misty. I pretty much gave up trying to deduce SCs for some time now.
                I AM the evil bastard!
                A+ Certified IT Technician

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                • #9
                  SC: Well, Kusanagi, I sugguest you just remain curious because I am speaking to someone who is less adversarial than you.
                  adversarial? oh, you meant someone who WON'T FIGHT BACK. cowardly bitch...good call on her. wastes both of your times, won't actually be making a purchase, causes trouble (and most likely, a scene) and she's being troubled. nah, don't think so, bye, so long and don't let the door...
                  look! it's ghengis khan!
                  Sorry, but while I can do many things, extracting heads from anuses isn't one of them. (so sayeth the irv)

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                  • #10
                    this deserves a fark tag

                    DILLIGAF

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                    • #11
                      Quoth chainedbarista View Post
                      adversarial? oh, you meant someone who WON'T FIGHT BACK. cowardly bitch...good call on her. wastes both of your times, won't actually be making a purchase, causes trouble (and most likely, a scene) and she's being troubled. nah, don't think so, bye, so long and don't let the door...
                      I'd be willing to bet money that this is the first time she's EVER been called on her behavior. She's been used to being generally nasty to everybody, and everybody has just caved for her.

                      Kusanagi standing up to her probably threw a monkey wrench right into her mental gears. She'll probably spend days brooding over the horrible injustice of it all and then....shop somewhere that's an easier target.

                      This....person...is probably the same sort of certain type of middle-aged woman for whom making cashiers cry is a spectator sport.
                      I have a map of the world. It's actual size.

                      -- Steven Wright

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                      • #12
                        Nice job of screwing up her hobby.
                        The Grand Galactic Inquisitor hears all and sees all.

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                        • #13
                          Quoth Kusanagi View Post
                          SC: How DARE you accuse me of circumventing!
                          OMG! How did you keep a straight face when she threw THAT at you?

                          Now my co-workers and I have a new way to tease each other: "That's circumventing! I saw you! Hey, did you see him circumventing?"
                          Last edited by Dips; 09-19-2006, 03:22 PM.
                          The best karma is letting a jerk bash himself senseless on the wall of your polite indifference.

                          The stupid is strong with this one.

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                          • #14
                            Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay you!!!!!!!!!!!

                            I don't know anyone who could've handled that any better than you.
                            Unseen but seeing
                            oh dear, now they're masquerading as sane-KiaKat
                            There isn't enough interpretive dance in the workplace these days-Irv
                            3rd shift needs love, too
                            RIP, mo bhrionglóid

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                            • #15
                              Quoth TonyDonuts View Post
                              This....person...is probably the same sort of certain type of middle-aged woman for whom making cashiers cry is a spectator sport.
                              I wonder if she's related to the bastard I encountered along the PA Turnpike the other night... It wouldn't surprise me one bit.
                              Aerodynamics are for people who can't build engines. --Enzo Ferrari

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