porn and pedaphiles at the library

[Jester]

one guy figured out how to get online before we officially had Internet access

Forgetting for a moment that this is about porn, you have to admit, the above feat is pretty damn impressive when you think about it.

The pedophilia part is meant for the teacher telling the girl students that they can look up articles about underware and bras. And the patron gets upset and get teachers and librarians involved. I don't know if it was just a bad word choise on the part of the teacher (maybe his mind was on the new Victoria Secret catalog) but with the principal getting called in, I think the customer thougth pedophila was involved; just overblowing the situation.

Yeah, I would say that that was definitely overblown.

Don't get me wrong, the teacher's choice of words was clearing at best a bad idea and at worst very inappropriate, but it could hardly be labeled as pedophilia, other than by someone overblowing the whole thing.

I mean, to people who have suffered the devastation and tragedy that IS pedophilia, referring this as pedophilia is just downright insulting.

[PepperElf]

Just so you know... your post had to do with porn yes, but not pedophillia.

depends on what state you're in.

in virginia at least it's illegal to expose children to porn and falls under similar pedo rules. in fact, if i remember... getting caught for it will get you on the infamous "registered offenders" list too.

and personally... looking at porn in public, means you're just hoping to get caught by someone else there. (ahem)


(tho if it was up to me, all porn would be blocked from the libraries... but that's another topic i guess)

[Bramblerose]

It's pornographic to suggest undergarment research? Oh dear, my mom is soooo busted, I hope the statute of limitations is up!

I suppose I should be glad I was 19 went I wrote my paper on fashion!

[Rapscallion]

Forgetting for a moment that this is about porn, you have to admit, the above feat is pretty damn impressive when you think about it.

Windows explorer - usually the exploit for this. Just type the http:// and rest of the URL into the address bar, and it will often do that. When I was talking to a mortgage arranger at a bank, on a secure bank computer, he did just this to look at the house I was interested in.

Rapscallion

[PepperElf]

It's pornographic to suggest undergarment research? Oh dear, my mom is soooo busted, I hope the statute of limitations is up!

you'd be surprised.

back in the late 80s/early 90s or so i was listening to the G. Gordon Libby show and he was verbally blasting pedophiles on the air.

One man called in and confessed to being a convicted molester, and went on to explain what therapy he has to go thru, that it would be a life-long process and... what materials he'd used to lure children in... (and for his own fun)... children's clothing catalogues, the underwear section because back in those days they had children modeling the undies... (within a year after this show they stopped, so I suspect someone was listening).


So yeah, encouraging kids to look up piccies of underwear, and perhaps the models filling them out.. granted they'll see it eventually anyway, but it was a bad lesson choice... he doesn't need to be spiking their hormones.

[MystyGlyttyr]

Forgetting for a moment that this is about porn, you have to admit, the above feat is pretty damn impressive when you think about it.

Oh, not to my mother. When the library she worked at got it's new computers, she got into the system and was just exploring around, looking to see what all was involved. At some point, she got to some bizarre screen and couldn't get rid of it. Cue call to tech support.

The conversation was essentially as follows.

Mom's boss: Yeah, uh Mom here was exploring the new system and she got to *that screen*, what does it do?
Tech guy: ...that's one of our source screens. She can't get to that from there.
Boss: Um...well, she has.
Tech: But...she can't.
Boss: Well...she has.
Tech: *completely bewildered* But...she...CAN'T!

The guy finally came out to see for himself and was apparently visibly startled by the appearance of the mentioned screen. This was back in the late 80's so I really have no idea how the hell she managed it. I like to tease my mom that she was a hacker before hacker was even a word.

[jedimaster91]

I never understood why anyone would want to look at pornography in a public place like a library. And our library administration is the worst kind of spineless. There has to be full nudity on the screen and it must be seen by a supervisor or security before we can do anything about it. And all they can do is ask the person to log off for the day. So to them, a thong and pasties qualifies as "clothing" and we can't do anything about it. Major suckage.

[Geek King]

Windows explorer - usually the exploit for this. Just type the http:// and rest of the URL into the address bar, and it will often do that. When I was talking to a mortgage arranger at a bank, on a secure bank computer, he did just this to look at the house I was interested in.

Rapscallion

Most web designers have gotten smarter about the security now, but back in the olden days of my misbegotten youth, a surprising number of web sites with logins could be gotten around like that if you knew (or could guess) a page on the "inside" of the site.

[Lace Neil Singer]

My local library has mega filters on the computer; which bugged me when I had to keep going there while I was still living at home and the master computer, ie my mum's, had to be sent off for cleaning and my parents wouldn't let me plug my computer into the hub. The filters blocked Metal Sludge, the Ace Frehley board I admin on and Snopes. -.-

[slavetotheman]

... as evidenced by the sticky notes we found under the keyboards.

Am I the only one who read this too fast and thought "whoa, that's nasty"?

[technical.angel]

Keep in mind the case where the HS teacher let some student on her computer. The student went to a porn site, and I gather it was one of those that leaves traces on the browser, so when the teacher popped it up for something for the class to see and found porn? Yikes. I believe she was fired for this. At teh very least she was suspended. I thin this is awfully harsh for trusting the wrong kid.

Since I followed this story, I'll tell it all.

A high school substitute teacher was put into a classroom and told for various reasons, the computer could not be turned off. The monitor apparently faced the classroom. Before class, some students were looking up various hair styles and installed some adware.

During class, popups started of a XXX nature. Since she didn't know she could turn off the monitor without turning off the computer, she covered the monitor with a coat.

Students reported it, and she was charged with four counts of risk of injury to a minor, or impairing the morals of a child.

She was convicted, had the conviction overturned, and finally plead guilty to disorderly conduct and had her teaching license revoked.

All because the school district didn't take some basic networking steps to protect it's network and students.

[Chromatix]

Yes. That one shocked me.

It so clearly wasn't her fault, despite her naivety - and the children themselves were almost certainly not permanently harmed. She did her best to shield the screen, given that she didn't know how to turn it off...

...and yet she was still convicted of a criminal offence.

The machine apparently did have antivirus software on it, but it was grossly out of date.

[Jester]

Most web designers have gotten smarter about the security now, but back in the olden days of my misbegotten youth, a surprising number of web sites with logins could be gotten around like that if you knew (or could guess) a page on the "inside" of the site.

Wow. I remember getting around password pages in just that manner. For a technologically inept person like me, that was pretty impressive.

Since she didn't know she could turn off the monitor without turning off the computer, she covered the monitor with a coat.

Students reported it, and she was charged with four counts of risk of injury to a minor, or impairing the morals of a child.

She was convicted, had the conviction overturned, and finally plead guilty to disorderly conduct and had her teaching license revoked.

What was their freakin' logic here? Was there any? Because from your telling of it, it sounds like she DID attempt, to the best of her ability, to shield the students from the content on the screen. What the fuck, man?

Innocent people getting railroaded for something they not only didn't do, but for something they tried to prevent, just pisses me off something fierce. Especially considering all the true fuckwads that ARE out there.

[depechemodefan]

Warning, pedophilia described.

My co-worker was telling me today (I think this happened two weeks ago) that a patron went for her help in printing and told he that someone waslooking at child porn. My coworker goes to look and it was 5 year old girls, with professional back drops behind them, and they were naked, some with their legs open. So she calls security and security comes over. Then security calls his captain. Captain tells him give the pervert (pervert is my word) a warning. My coworker goes complain to the chief of the library and he was upset about it. So she calls in sick the next day, she was so upset about it.

[Mr. Security]

Warning, pedophilia described.

My co-worker was telling me today (I think this happened two weeks ago) that a patron went for her help in printing and told he that someone waslooking at child porn. My coworker goes to look and it was 5 year old girls, with professional back drops behind them, and they were naked, some with their legs open. So she calls security and security comes over. Then security calls his captain. Captain tells him give the pervert (pervert is my word) a warning. My coworker goes complain to the chief of the library and he was upset about it. So she calls in sick the next day, she was so upset about it.

Seriously!, If that happened at my library my supervisor would escort the guy out the hard way if you catch my drift and he would get barred for a very long time. We have a hell of a time getting barrings from the head of the library but I'm sure for someone like him he won't have a problem barring him. We aren't suppose to touch anybody we escort out unless physically provoked but I'm think the Library head would look the other way if he "fell down" a few times