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    I just got wind of this complaint this week but it actually came from a job last week. We're doing an office move, furniture and contents on Tuesday the 23rd. This is our last job before Christmas so I'm trying to get it done that night to give the guys some extra time off. I convey this message to the client and she's all for it. So we push extra hard, skip some breaks and get the job "done" by 8:00; all that's left is a walkthrough with the client.

    Please note that I said that we were done; according to the plans there was nothing left to do. Oh, but she forgot about this... and this... and this... and that. Oh, she doesn't like how that office is set up, reconfigure it this way. Oh, one more thing, and one more thing, and one more..... After two and a half hours of this I'm well beyond my boiling point and my crew is even hotter than me. I've got no choice but to call it before somebody gets killed.

    I tell the client to find any little thing that she doesn't like, make up a list and we'll take care of it in the morning. She's very unhappy about this as I had told her that we'd be done tonight. I remind her that we've been done for the past two and a half hours, it's just her constant changes that are holding us up. I convince her that it will be far quicker and efficient to just give us one list and have us go at it. She's happy and agreeable at this point and we leave amicably with the deal being that I'll be in at 6:00 to prep and start, and the crew will follow at 8:00. I remind her of the date, and that I'll have to get the guys out by 10 or 11, absolutely no later than noon because most of them were promised the day off. This is fine, "there's only going to be a couple more things that she's got to decide on."

    So I get there in the morning and merrily look at this list of a "couple of things." I damn near put my fist through the wall when I see it. It took a twelve man crew eight hours to move 60 people's offices to the exact specifications she laid out. She's now made the decision that on top of the 5 or 10 that we moved last night, 21 more "don't work" in their assigned office, they've all got to be swapped around. I've got 4 guys, including myself, to do all this. I get right on the phone to get more guys in and I'm lucky enough to have 4 more agree to come in, on the promise of leaving well before noon.

    Things actually worked out well from here. There were a lot but they were the simpler stations so were were able to throw them around quickly and actually "finished" by the 10:30 ish mark. I send two guys home right away because they still had to start their Christmas shopping. The client was not pleased to hear that I let them leave because she's found quite a few more things. I suppose my death stare must have been quite apparent here because she took a shocked step back before I take a deep breath and ask what else there is. Anyways, to cut to the chase, this carries on for the next three hours. I tell my guys that they can leave whenever they want to, and by noon, it's dwindled down to me and one other guy. This is fine because we're down moving things literally by inches. She's reluctantly satisfied with the furniture assignment, now she's playing amateur interior designer / amateur phychic mind reader trying to position each piece in the perfect alignment that the office user will want. This chair has to be perfectly straight, this chair should be at an angle.... no not that much.

    Two hours and three circles of the floor later, she's still nit-picking. I finally reach my breaking point when she wants a cabinet moved for the umpteenth time because it's still an inch out of place. I tell her that's it, we're leaving... we're two hours over the absolute cut off time; every office is perfectly usable, if anybody is unhappy we'll come back after Christmas to fix it. She doesn't like this but I'm not giving her an option, I'm walking away from her. I wish her a Merry Christmas and tell her to call if we're needed. I see her stunned, puppy dog whacked on the nose, expression as the door closes behind me.

    So I'm in the following Monday and the boss wants to know what happened; she complained that we left early Tuesday night, and I let all the guys leave and didn't finish the job on Wednesday. I give him the rundown and I suppose I have to count this as a Christmas miracle... he sides with me. He apologizes for what I went through and thanks me for the effort. But I can't escape unscathed. The client doesn't want me at that job site anymore. Now the big problem we've got is that everyone else in the company wants that same "punishment".
    D.I.L.L.I.G.A.F.
    Quoth = Crossbow "EvilHomer, Irv, Gravekeeper, and Seraph: the Four Horsemen of the Dumbpocalypse."

  • #2
    You have a _lot_ more patience than I; if I'd seen that huge list of changes I'd have told her off but good! I hope her micro-managing resulted in a huge amount of O/T charges which she now has to justify to her bosses!

    Hugs and cookies!

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    • #3
      ok, when they steam clean the upholstry at my office I expect to have to re-adjust my chair and other things when I come in the next day, so I would hope that after a major office move that her workers could be bothered to take 15 minutes to fine tune their work stations! Sure they're paying you for services, but I'd be happy to have everything packed, moved and unpacked for me, good freaking grief!
      "Ride the spiral to the end, it may just go where no one's been. Spiral out, keep going..." -Lateralus

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      • #4
        Quoth dispatch View Post
        ok, when they steam clean the upholstry at my office I expect to have to re-adjust my chair and other things when I come in the next day, so I would hope that after a major office move that her workers could be bothered to take 15 minutes to fine tune their work stations! Sure they're paying you for services, but I'd be happy to have everything packed, moved and unpacked for me, good freaking grief!
        Plus, how the hell would she know how they want their offices set up? If my boss was to set up my office for me, I'd have to completely redo it! Micromanaging twit; I bet she's *really* fun to work for.

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        • #5
          Ugh. I'd simply point to the plan and say 'this is what you approved. Any other changes need to be made through the proper channels', and leave.
          The Case of the Missing Mandrake; A Jude Derry, Sorceress Sleuth Mystery Available on Amazon.

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          • #6
            Scope Creep. The moment someone asks for something not already written down and agreed to? Pay extra or we're leaving. Bye!

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            • #7
              Charge it

              Quoth Stormraven View Post
              Ugh. I'd simply point to the plan and say 'this is what you approved. Any other changes need to be made through the proper channels', and leave.
              Had this nonsense as a programmer.

              Had this nonsense as a computer tech.

              Years ago I learn the basic rule. If it is not in the original contract it is chargeable.

              The few times afterwards my second programming job that I had a manager who did not understand this, I gave them a list of *ALL* my labour including travel time and *ALL* materials used and point out that all that must be subtracted from the original planned profit.

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              • #8
                Oh yeah, I didn't mention that I passed this all through my boss prior to letting her nit-pick. He was fine because they're being charged by the hour. So we've got 36 extra man hours Tuesday, and another 36 Wednesday, considering the job was estimated to run 7-8 hours for twelve guys, she's just about doubled her bill. I made a point of breaking everything down so that it's shown that the job was originally finished ahead of schedule and the extra time was because of her.

                I let her away with this because I had nothing important to do and a few extra hours, especially this time of year, are always a good thing. But it did hit the point of enough being enough.


                It was quite amusing watching her micro-manage getting the office just "perfect". Move something, step back, move it again... repeat. I would have loved to see her face Monday morning as everyone comes in and moves everything from her "perfect alignment", as they want it, or walk right past without a care because all they need is a chair and desk.
                D.I.L.L.I.G.A.F.
                Quoth = Crossbow "EvilHomer, Irv, Gravekeeper, and Seraph: the Four Horsemen of the Dumbpocalypse."

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                • #9
                  Quoth earl colby pottinger View Post

                  Years ago I learn the basic rule. If it is not in the original contract it is chargeable.
                  True.

                  But you have to be careful. I learned the hard way that many lower-level munchkins making last minute changes to what's in the contract are freelancers who lack the authority.

                  If they're not in position to commit the client to the changes they're demanding, ask them to go up the chain of command to get approval.

                  You'd be surprised how many bosses have no interest in doubling the budgeted cost of something just because an admin assistant is too lazy to do something herself.

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                  • #10
                    Yes

                    Quoth Auto View Post
                    True.

                    But you have to be careful. I learned the hard way that many lower-level munchkins making last minute changes to what's in the contract are freelancers who lack the authority.

                    If they're not in position to commit the client to the changes they're demanding, ask them to go up the chain of command to get approval.

                    You'd be surprised how many bosses have no interest in doubling the budgeted cost of something just because an admin assistant is too lazy to do something herself.
                    Yes, that is why by the time I did my fourth contract job I learnt to state if any change was not added in writting then signed and dated then the change does not exist.

                    Amazing how un-important a change becomes the moment you start to write it out on a work order with the words "As requested by XXXXXX dated xxxx/xx/xx"

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                    • #11
                      Hmm..... I wonder if maybe that lady was fired/laid off and that was her last project with the company -- so she was trying to screw them for it?

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                      • #12
                        Quoth JLRodgers View Post
                        Hmm..... I wonder if maybe that lady was fired/laid off and that was her last project with the company -- so she was trying to screw them for it?
                        You're giving her too much credit. I'm fairly certain she was just an idiot control-freak and an entitlement whore.
                        "So, if you wanna put places like that outta business, just stop being so rock-chewingly stupid." ~ Raudf, 9/19/13

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                        • #13
                          Quoth Peppergirl View Post
                          You're giving her too much credit. I'm fairly certain she was just an idiot control-freak and an entitlement whore.
                          Or just really, really, really anal

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                          • #14
                            Quoth Stormraven View Post
                            Ugh. I'd simply point to the plan and say 'this is what you approved. Any other changes need to be made through the proper channels', and leave.
                            And we have a winnah! This is the job assigned. Any changes will have to be approved and proper payment made before any work begins.

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                            • #15
                              Quoth Peppergirl View Post
                              You're giving her too much credit. I'm fairly certain she was just an idiot control-freak and an entitlement whore.
                              Quoth JLRodgers View Post
                              Or just really, really, really anal
                              Yes and oh hell yes


                              The problem I had was the contract calls for making the customer happy. The plan was a guideline... a map. Problem being we were looking at a map of Toronto, and she envisioned a map of London... no, not London Ontario, London England.

                              I don't think there will be a problem with the bill because she can't dispute that we were there, working under her authority, and she is the one that's signing the orders. Of course if there is an issue, that's my boss's problem. The only thing he does is send out the orders and send out the bills so if this is adding an extra headache... well that's why he gets the big bucks.
                              D.I.L.L.I.G.A.F.
                              Quoth = Crossbow "EvilHomer, Irv, Gravekeeper, and Seraph: the Four Horsemen of the Dumbpocalypse."

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