No smoking....

[Lace Neil Singer]

XD I could call it a fag end... then again, that sounds worse, doesn't it?

[QASlave]

Stop talking about smoking!! I quit the first of December and this thread is killing me. (whimper.) :-)

[wagegoth]

Throwing a cigarette on the ground, just like any other object, would be littering. In some states, I believe, throwing lit cigarettes from cars has a much higher penalty, due the hazards of fires and injuring people in other cars.

Smoking in public places has been banned here in California going back about 20 years. There was the usual whining and moaning, but people adjust. The only problem is I'm allergic and I ride public transit, and people are always grabbing one last cigarette before getting on the bus or BART.

[Primer]

I guess we're even then. I often ride a hot butt and I know I'd hate it if a motorbike hit me.

XD I could call it a fag end... then again, that sounds worse, doesn't it?

I'm glad I was not eating or drinking anything when I read these postings!

Stop talking about smoking!! I quit the first of December and this thread is killing me. (whimper.) :-)

Sorry. I quit last May, but just restarted last Friday. My 83 y.o. Dad fell in the driveway and broke his arm, and has been acting like a 2 y.o. about being in the hospital and rehab and what all he needs to do in order to get better and go home. Very, very frustrating. I'll be going through quitting again when he gets home and settled in.

[HorrorFrogPrincess]

Stop talking about smoking!! I quit the first of December and this thread is killing me. (whimper.) :-)

So why are you reading a thread with the title No Smoking? Reasonable assumption that there would be talk of smoking and cigarettes in the thread.

[Muses_nightmare]

Do people not read the paper? Watch TV? Listen to the radio?

I asked the same thing when people continued to be ignorant of the new law in BC about all gas stations being pre-pay. When I quit the gas station in April last year, there were still people who didn't know about it, the law came into effect Feb. 1. And was talked about in the News for months before that.

[Lace Neil Singer]

There's always teh internetz in any case.

[MadMike]

They plan to. According to the local paper there is now someone going around to make sure places enforce the new law.

I'll believe it when I see it.

I don't see it in restaurants, as almost all of them went non-smoking on their own, but I do go to bars a lot. I've only seen one that abides by the ban. One of the others I frequent made the dining area non-smoking and started closing the door, but they stopped doing it or even enforcing the ban at all, even though the left the "No smoking" signs up in that part. And one of the other bar owners is publicly defying the ban, according to an article in the local paper that quoted him.

Throwing out of a car window; unacceptable. I ride a motorbike and don't particularly want a hot butt hitting me.

Having one of those hit the windshield at night is scary, but another time I was driving with the window down, and one landed in my lap. I'm not a violent man, but my wife had to stop me out of chasing after the jackass that time.

Throwing a cigarette on the ground, just like any other object, would be littering.

You'd think so.

It's strange how most people wouldn't even think of tossing, say a candy wrapper out of the window, and yet many of them see nothing wrong with tossing a piece of paper that happens to be smoldering.

[DGoddessChardonnay]

I see these laws vary by location . . .

While I haven't heard of Greensboro going completely smoke free, they have been phasing it in over the last few years. Three or four years ago (I think) they started banning people from smoking within so many feet of city/state buildings. There's been talk of enforcing a city wide ban on restaurants, but so far that hasn't been done yet. We do have some that are completely nonsmoking by choice, but most still offer a smoking area.

Most businesses are now placing restrictions on where employees can smoke. The Litter Box just banned smoking in all their retail/warehouse facilities and we now have to go outside (started Jan.1) Goober and our grocery manager moved our smoking bench and ashtray outside several feet from the entrance along the covered sidewalk (we're nestled in between 2 drink machines) and we're trying to adjust. We knew 2 months ahead of time, so nobody should have been whining about it, so far no one has that I've heard of.

Oh well, it was bound to happen eventually. WD did the same thing back in the early 90's, and we adjusted to it then. At home I have to smoke outside anyways (althought it sucks when we're having cold wet weather or high winds like this evening) but one can get used it.

As for the SC's, you'l have them. We saw them way back when the local ordinances banned smoking from most retail areas (early 90's) and we still had an occasional person walking into the WD's front doors with a lit cigarette. I didn't have to turn around - I could simply smell it and bark at them to take it outside.

And yes, that ordinance was heavily publicized through the local news/tv stations, newspapers, etc. But you've still got those rock-dwellers that think those laws are for everyone else but them.

My advice is to just keep telling them to take it outside or talk to the local cops about the matter.

[notthecook]

Not all bars in PA have to abide by the non smoking law. If your food sales are less than 30% (or maybe 20%), you are not required to be non smoking. "This bar does not have a non smoking area" must be posted on the door and somewhere in the bar.

[McGoddess09]

They really crack down on the smoking laws here in my IL town. My mom used to work in a local bar. The owner set out a jar and charged a quarter for everytime someone wanted to smoke inside, just so they could pay the fine if they got caught. When my mom was tending bar, she absolutely forbid people smoking. If the cops caught someone smoking, the smoker, the owner of the establishment, AND THE BARTENDER would be fined.

Well, needless to say, the cops caught someone smoking in that bar. Luckily, my mother wasn't bartending. The owner was.

A few months later, the bar burnt down during the early morning. It's still speculated that the owner did it because the bar was losing business and the ice cream shop,next to the bar,owned by the same person, and where I used to work, was losing money also. It couldn't be that the workers were giving away free icecream, the same accusation told to the owner as to why I shouldn't have my job back for the summer by her grandson....

As a side note: it was only an accusation. I would throw in a dollar or two if someone was short money, but I actually put the money in as I did the transaction. The owner's grandson and everyone else working were giving free stuff away, but nooo little pwecious couldn't be doing that at all, according to the owner.

[bainsidhe]

Now I'm confused. I thought the OP worked at a gas station?

And throwing out cigarette butts is definitely littering. Just as another poster mentioned regarding chewing gum, there are some things people are more likely to litter than others. During my fast food days, I hated cleaning the parking lot after a weekend overnight shift. The amount of half-eaten food and DT bags thrown everywhere looked terrible, were disgusting, and were a real bitch to clean up. That along with the beer bottles/cans, oh joy (no bottle deposit in NE).

Even so, I don't think this lack-of-knowledge regarding the law has so much to do with not reading or listening to the news, as it has to do with EW SCs in general. Just like when I card for alcohol/cigarettes, a good chunk of the population seem to think laws don't apply to them.

[Irving Patrick Freleigh]

In some states, I believe, throwing lit cigarettes from cars has a much higher penalty, due the hazards of fires and injuring people in other cars.

I'd especially expect that to be so in California, where there seems to be a wildfire every week.

Okay, I'm exaggerating. Every other week then.

[RayvenQ]

Personally, as a Smoker, I think the UK has a decent smoking ban, which is pretty much a ban on smoking in enclosed public places, which pretty much amounts to workplaces, though for Cab drivers and anyone else whose job includes a lot of driving, it must suck a fair bit as their vehicles (it they aren't personally owned, I think) constitute as an enclose workplace and as far as I know they aren't allowed to smoke in them (then again, if you're driving, that's the only thing you should be doing, driving)

[VenomX]

Now I'm confused. I thought the OP worked at a gas station?

A gas station/tobacco shop...