Do students count as SCs?

[GraingerGuy]

OK...C'MON!

Today, right after my class ended, there was a boy whose shoelace was being stepped on by a girl. Instead of just asking her to stop and then telling me if she didn't...he gets it into his fool head that it's now ok to just push her as hard as possible to the floor to get her off his laces. SERIOUSLY?!?!

I got him right after the fact and laid into him. Told him that was absolute JUNK that he pulled. And the thing was...there was NO amount of remorse in his face. NONE. I mean frakin' seriously? I can almost guarantee you that running through his mind was the fact that I'm an idiot for even bringing this to his attention.

Now...I feel a little bad for laying into him so hard. Just a little. But there was no screaming involved, no grabbing, no anything like that. Just me with a very stern voice, a look that could probably have melted metal and me telling him that what he pulled was absoulute junk.


What in the living crap is wrong with kids? Get me out of here....

[joe hx]

what grade/age??

[GraingerGuy]

what grade/age??

5th grader. Should know better already.

Wow...I need to learn to let go....I'm still really steamed about it.

[Hobbs]

wait...was he standing still and it was happening, or she happened to be walking behind him and doing it?

[GraingerGuy]

wait...was he standing still and it was happening, or she happened to be walking behind him and doing it?

Was just standing still. There was absolutely no harm physically that was going to be done to this boy. Basically he was standing there, the girl stepped on his shoelace to annoy him I suppose and he pushed her....hard.

[RecoveringKinkoid]

So why do you feel bad about laying into him? If someone had been laying into him up to this point, maybe he wouldn't think pushing girls down is okay.

[Pedersen]

Some parts that are not present in the story, but that might help explain it if they are relevant to this particular case (I don't know if they are, but if they are, is all I'm saying):

Is there any history for this boy? Has he been a victim of persistent bullying? If so, have the authority figures around him attempted to deal with it, or do they just let it happen?

If he's been a victim, and if authority figures haven't tried to put a stop to it, then it's entirely possible that he just snapped. It happened to me in school a few times. I finally had enough, and lashed out when someone did whatever (one time was someone kicking the back of my foot that I'd torn off an inch circle patch of skin, another was a bully who would physically push me every damned day, another was someone stealing my backpack for a second time).

The gender of the perpetrator wouldn't have mattered when I snapped: I still would have snapped and gone physical. I was already at that point, and the next person to push a button was going to trigger me.

And that might well have been what happened to this boy. At the least, it's worth checking into.

[Damien]

As a high school teacher, I have a tonne of stories like this! (I'll do any in a separate thread so as to not hijack this one).

I see this all the time though, stepping on shoelaces, hiding another student's pencil case and other immature nonsense like that

[taxguykarl]

I'm with Pedersen on this one. All the years of needling, will cause any non-saint to explode sooner or later and in a big way. If the girl was in on the needling, than she had a good thrashing coming to her. I've been in a similar boat. Bullies (of both genders) are a lot less effective after you give them a shiner

[Primer]

In my "childhood," only three people ever tried to bully me. The first one was when I was about 4. Mark (my age) invited a 2 y.o. neighbor and I to see his dog's puppies in the doghouse. I was a little suspicious, since his dog was a male, but agreed anyway. He got us in the (huge) doghouse, then refused to let us out when I saw that there were no puppies. I stood up to him, and he quickly gave up and let us out. I think I threatened him with my oldest brother, who was good friends with his brother.

The second was in 4th grade--I wanted to play on the merry-go-round at the school playground, and Mike (5th grader) claimed that girls were not allowed. Wrong answer! I beat him up...ok, I only socked him in the upper arm while wearing my leather macrame ring, and became the first (and only) girl to be allowed on.

Number three was in 6th or 7th grade, I don't remember for sure. I don't know why Tina loved to pick on me, but one morning she grabbed my face with one hand. I reached up and DUG my fingernails into her fore arm while dragging her hand away from my face. I hope she bears scars to this day! I do know she never picked on me again!

[Jay 2K Winger]

I'm with Pedersen on this one. All the years of needling, will cause any non-saint to explode sooner or later and in a big way. If the girl was in on the needling, than she had a good thrashing coming to her. I've been in a similar boat. Bullies (of both genders) are a lot less effective after you give them a shiner

This. A thousand times this. I've been that said explosive non-saint.

My "crowning achievement," such as it was, was in 6th grade. I've mentioned this before, and fairly recently, but one of my chief tormentors finally did just enough after gym class to get me to snap. I grabbed his head and slammed it into one of the gym lockers. He went down, and from that day on, he was careful to have backup or a healthy distance from me before he tried any of his tactics.

[Terl1982]

To answer the question posed in your thread title...Students absolutely count as SC's, so more stories please!

Man I look back on all the crap I pulled on my teachers and cringe. I really should go back to my old high school and apologize for myself. My wife was a teacher for one year in a title one school in SC. That was an eye opener for both of us. We both worked at a summer camp together for 5 years and love kids. That experience made us both not want to have kids for at least 10 years.

I have said it before in other posts, but I absolutely hate bullies. I can totally sympathize with you not being able to let it go. I think back to issues I had with bullying at my camp over 3 years ago and I can still work myself up into a rage.

[friendofjimmyk]

Basically he was standing there, the girl stepped on his shoelace to annoy him I suppose and he pushed her....hard.

What he really wanted to do was kiss her but girls have cooties so he pushed her instead.

[Andara Bledin]

I'm pretty sure this wasn't a case of a victim snapping.

How many of you, after going off on your tormentors were completely cool as a cucumber? I know all of the friends I've had who've turned the tables on their attackers have had some pretty notable after-effects from the confromtation.

If this kid was completely detached from the whole proceeding, my vote is that you've got a budding psycopath on your hands. Basically, it's not that he didn't care but that he doesnt' have the facility.

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[AccountingDrone]

I'm pretty sure this wasn't a case of a victim snapping.

How many of you, after going off on your tormentors were completely cool as a cucumber? I know all of the friends I've had who've turned the tables on their attackers have had some pretty notable after-effects from the confromtation.

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Me, but Im wierd =)

I got dragged into the principals office with a teacher and an enemy. She had claimed that I had bit her, and exhibited beautiful twin arcs of a bite...problem is I was wearing a full upper and lower set of braces. I grabbed her arm, bit it as hard as I could and told the principal that if I had bit her before, the teethmarks would have little braces marks too. I turned and walked out. I didnt get any hassle from that.

This was the culmination of several months of getting shoved down stairs, clothing and books stolen from lockers, some liquid poured into my locker damaging my stuff, and deliberate destruction of my art projects that I needed to pass studio in art. I detest public school and that was the last straw, I refused to go back the next year until I got sent to a private school.

[i had done military and private schools for the first 8 years of schooling, and my parents decided to put me in public school for the last 4 years so I wouldnt have the travel time, and have more time for studying. NEVER put someone into a school when they have over 20 IQ points over everybody else there, already speaks 2 languages fluently and could already pass the senior classes and just lacks the actual credits. I was doing advanced placement classes for seniors as a freshman.]