More ID stuff

[EricKei]

You know the ones who scream the loudest about you checing their ID would also scream the loudest if someone else got their CC and used it

Preaching to the choir ^_^

Personally, I like it, I hate knowing that anyone can use my card no questions asked.[

I like it when I get carded, myself. I WANT them to check the ID's. It would, at least in theory, cut way back on CC fraud if everybody did it consistently.

I assume you have permission from anyone who's card you use, but if you can use it everywhere, so could anyone else - rather scary, in my book.

Well...that's part of why I believe in checking ID's (on both side of the register). Unless I'm mistaken, using somebody else's card -- even with their explicit verbal permission -- is considered fraud.

[CarcinogenCrunchies]

I had a guy come in not long ago with several random holes punched in his license. He looked quite embarrassed as he told me that his young child had gotten ahold of it with a hole punch. None of the holes were in a particularly bad spot - I could see the photo and date - so I accepted it, but told him that he needed to get a new one before presenting it to us again.

My cards are signed and also say "CID." Out of the few places here that aren't self-swipe, only one employee at one gas station ever asks to see my ID. It's become a joke between us. After several days in a row, I jokingly told her she could ask for it again the next week, so now she'll say, "Is it time for me to check your ID again yet?"

[Anakah]

I noticed that my state is HUGE on checking ID's. Especially at the casinos but I took a trip to CA to go to Knotts and not once did I have to ever show my ID for anything! It was weird. I guess I didn't realize how important ID is out here.

I get several complaints about how they have to show ID for everything and should just wear it around their necks. I like the fact that we are so ID orientated. We're trying to protect people and there has been so much identity theft, I thought people would like to be protected... But to them its just a hassle.

[MadMike]

There was a commercial, one of those public service things, might have been our state only (and not even sure what state I was living in) that I loved. Showed a woman (jeans, jeans jacket, blonde hair down so you couldn't see her face) pick up a six pack then the clerk asks for her ID. As she hands it over, she pulls her hair back so you can see her better, and she's smiling - the tag line was "Always ask for ID - make some forty-something's day".

I saw a billboard that had a little old white-haired lady, with the caption, "Don't feel bad! They asked me for my ID too!"

[EricKei]

We're trying to protect people and there has been so much identity theft, I thought people would like to be protected...

They could always sign up for LifeLock or something like that...I think one of those places had its founder show his SSN publically as a sort of "come and get me" to would-be thieves. It's my understanding that there were upwards of a dozen fraudulent accounts opened in his name ...successfully...within a day. So much for prevention...

[LadyAndreca]

I found out in my most recent training that there are a handful of states where it's illegal to require an ID for a credit card purchase--including mine. No wonder I feel so weird when I go visit my parents and EVERY STORE requires ID (I have it, of course!), and my parents were very uncomfortable when they came to visit and not a single cashier even glanced at the card when it was swiped.

[bean]

Visa/Mastercard regulations state that as long as the card is signed, they cannot request an ID as long as the signatures match.

That said, I don't normally ask for ID unless I have to manually punch the card into the register (defective magnetic strip or the card reader is acting weird) AND it says "See ID" or isn't signed. The one time I've asked for ID outside of that is when the register popped up "!!! STOLEN CARD !!!" a few days ago.. their ID matched the card, I told them they needed to see what was on my screen and showed them. Turns out fraud protection had kicked in, my mom's CC has done the exact same thing before when someone got ahold of the numbers in the past.

With that out of the way, a lot of places still require ID with a CC... most notably my favorite head/smoke shop.

[Jester]

I think one of those places had its founder show his SSN publically as a sort of "come and get me" to would-be thieves. It's my understanding that there were upwards of a dozen fraudulent accounts opened in his name ...successfully...within a day.

From wikipedia:

A class action lawsuit alleges that as of 2008, there are at least 25 people using Todd Davis' social security number and that the advertising claims are misleading. The Company has responded demonstrating that the 25 alleged identity thieves are public records of failed attempts to use Todd Davis' identity.

Amusingly, while researching the above, I found out that LifeLock is, apparently, based in my home town.

[taxguykarl]

Am I the only one that would be thrilled with people asking for my ID with CC's and such? It ensures my shit doesn't become someone else's, and in general makes me feel a bit more secure.

AGREED! I don't even start returns without an ID--our software prompts for the type, number, issuing agency, and expiration date. We place signs all over to the effect that "No files or checks will be given out without an ID." and still at least once a week we get one who either "forgot" and/or asks us to make an exception. Hell, my ID has to be logged and I work there.

[mikoyan29]

I found out in my most recent training that there are a handful of states where it's illegal to require an ID for a credit card purchase--including mine. No wonder I feel so weird when I go visit my parents and EVERY STORE requires ID (I have it, of course!), and my parents were very uncomfortable when they came to visit and not a single cashier even glanced at the card when it was swiped.

I don't understand why it would be illegal to require an ID for a credit card? I mean, it's nominally for the customer's protection. Unless of course, our governments are so corrupt that they are in bed with the scammers and swindlers (besides themselves of course).

[XCashier]

Am I the only one that would be thrilled with people asking for my ID with CC's and such? It ensures my shit doesn't become someone else's, and in general makes me feel a bit more secure.

I don't have any problem with anyone asking me for my ID, and I don't understand why so many people do. Gee, it's just so much work and effort to carry around and produce a little 3¼" x 2", 0.1 oz plastic card. Gosh, all that extra weight must be such a drag to carry around!

Sarcasm aside, I always wonder about those who kick up a fuss over being asked for ID. It makes me wonder what they're hiding.

[LadyAndreca]

I don't understand why it would be illegal to require an ID for a credit card? I mean, it's nominally for the customer's protection. Unless of course, our governments are so corrupt that they are in bed with the scammers and swindlers (besides themselves of course).

Well, I do live in the most corrupt state in the country...

Edit: But honestly, I don't know. It just popped up in the training that if you were in certain states, including mine, to disregard the part of the training involving IDs and credit cards because of state laws. (Store policy is to ask for credit card and ID together.) I only ask for ID when looking up store cards or if the register actually prompts for one.

[Rapscallion]

Well, I do live in the most corrupt state in the country...

There's a league table?

Rapscallion

[smileyeagle1021]

Where is this even required anymore? Self-swipe has made this procedure ridiculously obsolete.

that actually depends... whenever I go to BestBuy or anywhere on campus I still get carded even when using the self swipe machines...

I noticed that my state is HUGE on checking ID's .

you're in Nevada right... you've clearly never been to Wendover
seriously, I got carded once and that was to sign up for my players card... ever since then my players card is practically as good as ID, just throw it down on the table with my money and they don't check to make sure that I'm even the proper card holder, that I'm 21, hell, they'll bring out hard drinks if your sitting at the table... you don't even have to be playing... it's kind of scary actually.

[LadyAndreca]

There's a league table?

Rapscallion

I...um. Hm. I think this is getting way off topic and possibly into fratching territory...lemme just start a thread over there and stop derailing this one. (It's in the politics section, just waiting for approval since I hadn't registered for Fratching yet.)