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  • #31
    Quoth Jester View Post
    And people, as we know by now, are stupid, judgmental, capricious, sanctimonious, self-righteous, and hypocritical.
    We also have had jurors feel hostile toward attorneys who were over weight or too thin or were wearing ill fitting suits, no hose, long hair, too expensive attire, bright colored ties, scuffed shoes, beards, hearing aids, and too little/much make up. Those things should not matter to the facts of the trial, but they do.

    This is why it did not surprise me in the least that Irving had someone complain about a model's lack of a ring when she portrayed a pregnant woman.
    "Ignorance is no excuse for a law."
    .................................................. ..................- Alfred E. Newman

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    • #32
      That's ridiculous. Those jurors are ignorant and obviously have NO concept of how our justice system is supposed to work.

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      • #33
        We're drifting to Fratching territory; societal woes are definitely Fratching-fodder. Pull it back, people.
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        • #34
          Quoth ditchdj View Post
          Those jurors are ignorant and obviously have NO concept of how our justice system is supposed to work.
          "Ya think, DiNozzo?"

          "The Customer Is Always Right...But The Bartender Decides Who Is
          Still A Customer."

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          • #35
            Quoth Mikkel View Post
            Tell the complainant that she took it off because she was going to wash dishes .
            Or maybe tell the person that she took it off because the woman was going to be wrist deep in baby poo in a few minutes.
            I never lost my faith in humanity. Can't lose what you never had right?

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            • #36
              Wait.....you had a customer who actually looked at a sign? Amazing....why, they might start *reading* them next
              "Getting to the top is optional. Getting down is mandatory." _Ed Viesturs
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              • #37
                Quoth ditchdj View Post
                That's ridiculous. Those jurors are ignorant and obviously have NO concept of how our justice system is supposed to work.
                I always thought that the jurors should be in a box, and just be able to hear the voices, and see the evidence passed in through a door ... I did jury duty a few years ago and back when we were sequestered and deciding, I swear people spent more time arguing over little bullshit like clothing, hair and what people looked like ...

                Come on people, most serial killers look and act perfectly normal unless they are working on their little hobby. Look at Dennis Rader/BTK. Married, involved with his church, looked pretty normal [just like a slightly older version of a guy I dated back in the early 80s]
                EVE Online: 99% of the time you sit around waiting for something to happen, but that 1% of action is what hooks people like crack, you don't get interviewed by the BBC for a WoW raid.

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                • #38
                  Quoth Merriweather View Post
                  Second, since when are married women required by law to wear a ring so we can confirm their status?
                  My husband and I couldn't even afford wedding bands until after the kids were born. Actually not until after they were in elementary school. I am such a horrible role model.
                  Tamezin

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                  • #39
                    Quoth AccountingDrone View Post
                    I always thought that the jurors should be in a box, and just be able to hear the voices,
                    Apparently I wasn't clear enough. Talking about how jury trials should be conducted is Fratching. Last warning.
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                    • #40
                      Quoth Cat View Post
                      Wait.....you had a customer who actually looked at a sign? Amazing....why, they might start *reading* them next
                      Hey, now, let's not get carried away.

                      It's taken them hundreds of years to start to LOOK at signs. At this rate, we'll get them READING them sometime around the year 3000.

                      And probably just in time for the sheeple to start panicking about the "Y3K Crisis."
                      PWNADE(TM) - Serve up a glass today! | PWNZER - An act of pwnage so awesome, it's like the victim got hit by a tank.

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                      • #41
                        Quoth tamezin View Post
                        My husband and I couldn't even afford wedding bands until after the kids were born. Actually not until after they were in elementary school. I am such a horrible role model.
                        My mother didn't have an engagement ring until I was in first grade, and only then because she lost her wedding ring, and she felt so horribly guilty about it that Dad got her an engagement ring with the new wedding ring to prove he wasn't angry. Because there was a story behind the original bands and they meant a lot to my parents.

                        *flashback* My parents couldn't reeeeally afford wedding rings when they got married, not with a baby on the way (). But it was important enough to them that they decided to open a credit card together, put the rings on the card, and pay it off little by little. But when they got the first bill, there wasn't a charge on the card! They immediately called the store, but the store said they'd been paid. The called the card company, and they said there had never been a charge made. Both sides told my parents not to worry, they didn't owe anything. So the wedding rings were free! And had special meaning just because of the story.

                        Myself, I've been in positions where I have to take off my rings to get work done. The rings happen to be a half eternity band design-- it has gemstones across the top, my birthstone, with the diamond in the center on the engagement ring. They happen to be very brittle (I've had to have it repaired once already from cracking stones) and hell to clean, so the rings come off all the time when I'm doing something that could damage the rings.
                        It's little things that make the difference between 'enjoyable', 'tolerable', and 'gimme a spoon, I'm digging an escape tunnel'.

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                        • #42
                          Quoth Cat View Post
                          Wait.....you had a customer who actually looked at a sign?
                          To be fair, they just looked at the picture in the sign. That is not that surprising. It's not like they actually read anything.


                          Now, I am NOT going to comment on how jury trials should be conducted, as this is fratching territory, as has been noted. However, I did want to comment on something said within that commentary that that I feel is important. To wit:

                          Quoth AccountingDrone View Post
                          Come on people, most serial killers look and act perfectly normal unless they are working on their little hobby. Look at Dennis Rader/BTK.
                          This is very true. Very few serial killers look like Richard Ramirez (the "Night Stalker") or Charles Manson.

                          Most of them look like normal people. Like your next door neighbor. Dennis Rader is one example. There are many others.

                          John Robinson (the "Internet Serial Killer"). John Wayne Gacy. Ted Bundy. Angelo Buono and Kenneth Bianchi (the Hillside Stranglers). Jeffrey Dahmer. Adam Berkowitz ("Son of Sam"). Gary Ridgway (the Green River Killer). Albert Fish. Herb Baumeister. Andrei Chikatilo.

                          My point is that, in court cases as in so many facets of life, judging by how someone looks will often lead to a mistake in judgment.

                          After all, Alice Cooper looks scary, while Albert Fish looks like a kindly grandfather. The obvious difference is that Cooper entertained millions of people with music, while Fish killed children.

                          "Don't judge a book by its cover," indeed.

                          "The Customer Is Always Right...But The Bartender Decides Who Is
                          Still A Customer."

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                          • #43
                            I broke my wedding ring while playing an arcade game. So I wore it on a chain around my neck.

                            I actually kept both rings on the chain after we separated until we were officially divorced.

                            I tend to have 4 rings that I wear during the day. I take them off when I'm at home, however.

                            ^-.-^
                            Faith is about what you do. It's about aspiring to be better and nobler and kinder than you are. It's about making sacrifices for the good of others. - Dresden

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                            • #44
                              My dad doesn't wear a wedding ring. He doesn't like the feeling of it, and he doesn't like spending money on useless things. Instead, he has a wedding watch, which my mother got inscribed with their names and wedding date.

                              Practical romance.

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                              • #45
                                I mentioned this to Nurse Betty, how if I ever got married, I would probably wear my wedding ring around my neck, not on my finger. Her response: "Well, that just would not be acceptable to your wife." Meaning her. Yeah....we have some differences of opinion.

                                Don't even get me started about the whole diamond thing.

                                "The Customer Is Always Right...But The Bartender Decides Who Is
                                Still A Customer."

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