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    and the day started so well, too! I was in a reasonably good mood, on a roll at work, despite all the pain from hauling books and doing returns. Then HE showed up. He, being a black gentleman (sadly, yes, race is relevant...) He approaches the counter, and tells me he wants to sell some books.

    Alarm bells, because I recognize him. He's on our special list, that watch list we keep of names of people we're 99.9999% sure are textbook thieves that come in rather frequently and try to sell back books in small increments, and manage to get away with hundreds of dollars at a time, usually. Anyways, I'm all prepared to shut him down, because I've seen him in action in our store before, he always claims his wallet was stolen, and he doesn't have a picture ID. No state issued, valid picture ID (or school ID from either Big State U or Small Private U) and no buyback allowed. Should be sufficient background. On to the suck.

    Him: I'd like to sell some books back.
    Me: All right, sir, I just need to see a state ID or school ID please.
    Him: Oh, my wallet was just stolen.
    Me: (Thinking: Gee, really? How many times has that been now??) Oh, well, I'm sorry, sir, but without a valid state ID in hand, I can't do anything for you.
    Him: I can show you a copy! <Hands me a piece of paper with all of his IDs, school, state, SS card and veteran's card all photocopied. This is a no-no. We need the ACTUAL ID. Company policy.)
    Me: I'm sorry, sir, but I can't accept a photocopy. I need the actual ID in hand.
    Him: Why not? The picture is crystal clear. You can take it.
    Me: No, sir, I can't.
    Him: Why not?
    Me: Company policy. I'm not allowed. I have to have the actual ID card in hand.
    Him: But my wallet was stolen!!
    Me: (That happens to you quite a lot...) <Repeats apology and states company policy again. >
    Him: Fine, I'll show you my school ID! Here! <Thrusts the ID at me. Two problems here: 1. It's from local community college, a school we don't serve and 2. It's the exact same damn ID he claims was stolen with his wallet, that is photocopied on that piece of paper!>
    Me: I'm sorry, sir, we can only accept BSU or SPU school IDs.
    Him: Why?!
    Me: Because those are the stores we carry the class books for. As such, our computer system is set up to only accept those two forms of ID numbers.
    Him: Then just run my ID as one of theirs!
    Me: I can't DO that, sir, I'm sorry.
    Him: <sneering at this point> Oh, that's right, because it's company policy. Fine, show me this policy!
    Me: <Suppressing a sigh> Sorry, but it's not readily written, I can go get my manager, if you'd like and--
    Him: You're not getting away that easy! I want you to explain to me why you're not accepting the reasonable IDs I'm offering! If not, then you WILL buy back my books! Now!
    Me: I can't do that sir! End of story. My hands are tied!
    Him: I see. If I were WHITE would this be the case?!
    Me: WHAT?!?!
    Him: If I were a little pasty bitch like you, would that get me able to sell books.
    Me: I'm getting my manager. <I start walking away>
    Him: You stay RIGHT HERE and buy my books back!
    Me: I can't! Even if I were able to - and since you've all but called me a racist I'm even less inclined to - I'd need a manager's override regardless to get into the system to do so!

    I head back to my textbook managers office, because he and the new store manager are back there talking and covering what TM needs to know since SM has the next day and a half off since she's opening and closing for the weekend. I explain the guy's on our list, and the wallet being stolen scam, and SM tells me no before I can even finish explaining. I tell her she needs to go out and tell him, and finish explaining what happened. She walked out and was UNhappy to find out I'd essentially been called a racist. He meets us in the middle of the aisle and immediately goes on the offensive.

    Him: Your employee is rude, insulting, and too unintelligent to handle something as simple as buying back my books!
    SM: Sir, the company is cracking down on the policy, and we are not allowed any exceptions. At all.
    Him: Oh yeah, why can't you take my school ID then, huh? I've sold books back here before!
    SM: And if an employee has broken that policy, they will have to be spoken with, but the fact remains we can't do anything for you.
    Him: This is ridiculous! SHE <points at me> has no respect for a black man! You let racist people work for you!?
    Me: <Through clenched teeth>I. Am. NOT. Racist!!
    Him: <Talks over me and cuts SM off before she can say anything> She's disrespectful not only to a black man, but to a veteran! There's no respect for what I've done for this country.

    Ok. Game Over. No more polite, professional, nice Lupo. I am PISSED. I walk over and look him right in the eye, even though SM is telling me to go to the break room, and she'll handle this.

    Me: No respect for a veteran? My grandfather, staff sergeant retired <Name redacted for privacy reasons> served in the military for decades, and has been to more places than I can remember, and through more hell than I can remember. He served our country and I was proud of him until the day he died, and still am. Don't you DARE try to wave that in my face and smear his good name as a veteran just because I'm not willing to break the rules for you!

    Aaaand, I burst into tears. SM shuffles me off to the back room, and I sit down and cry, he had me so pissed off. I mean, ok, this is probably due to a couple of things, the fact that I'm cranky and hormonal right now because it's that time of the month (sorry to any guys reading this...), and probably because it's coming up on the 1 year anniversary of my grandfather's death.

    Usually, I'm better about dealing with the fucktards that come into my store on a regular basis, but between being hormonally off, I'm stressed, sore, and tired and I guess it got to me. SM finally got him out of the store, and came back to check on me, by which point I was thoroughly embarrassed by what happened. Now Im all headachey and I feel blagh, and want to crawl into bed and give the world a nice little one fingered salute. I called mom, told her what happened, the gist of it anyways, but left out the veteran bit because it's still hard for her to think or talk about grandpa, and didn't want to upset her.

    <Sigh> Ok, done rambling now. Taking something for the headache, and going to ignore the world for a few hours now, I think.
    Last edited by lupo pazzesco; 02-25-2010, 08:04 PM.

  • #2
    *gives many s and cookies* Good. Night. That sounds horrible. I'm sorry you had to deal with that degree of asshattery all from the same person.
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    • #3
      I'm sorry that guy got to you like that. But try to keep these things in mind when dealing with his ilk.

      1. If he really thought you were a racist, he wouldn't call you one. He'd already know you wouldn't care. He knows you are not a racist. He also knows that, because of that, you will

      2. Flip out if he calls you one. Why? Why do you care what an asshole thinks either way? You don't have to convince him you aren't. Let's say for the sake of argument, he really does think you are one. Let's say he does....

      3. So?

      4. He called you a racist because he knew you'd flip out. What would happen if he called you one and you didn't care?

      5. He'd be out of bullets, that's what would happen.

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      • #4


        Good on you Lupo. I was pissed just reading this, and I'm pretty sure I would have been even harsher and called him a thief and a scammer.

        As long as SM doesn't give you any grief over this, in a week or so, hopefully it can fade into obscurity. I think this is why I choose not to remember my horror stories, the rush of embarrassment at my loss of control overwhelms me.

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        • #5
          I'm sorry he made you cry.

          Can your store call him out for being a repeat offender? Like tell him that he should have gotten his new documentation from the last time his wallet was stolen by now? Or better yet, just ban him as a known scammer?

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          • #6


            Quoth sprocket79 View Post
            Can your store call him out for being a repeat offender? Like tell him that he should have gotten his new documentation from the last time his wallet was stolen by now? Or better yet, just ban him as a known scammer?
            Agreed. If his story is always that his wallet was stolen, can something be said about him still not having proper, valid ID on him?

            My vote is for the straight-up banning, though.
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            • #7
              Wow! What an ass. If he's been known to try and scam the store so many times, shouldn't they ban him? I hate when people pull the race/creed cards just to get what they want. Plenty of and chocolate for ya, Lupo. Sorry to hear about your grandfather.
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              • #8
                If he didn't even have an actual veteran's card, just a photocopy of one, I'd think it might be fake and ask him where he trained and where he was first stationed.

                I've heard from friends and family members who have been in the military that vets DO NOT forget that information.

                What a loser that guy was.
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                • #9
                  I think that those who call one racist...are racist themselves

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                  • #10
                    Quoth lupo pazzesco View Post
                    Him: <Talks over me and cuts SM off before she can say anything> She's disrespectful not only to a black man, but to a veteran! There's no respect for what I've done for this country.
                    Oh, that pisses me off above all else. People use the race card all the time, sadly I'm rather used to seeing and hearing it. I come from a LONG line of military types. My parents MET in the US Army. I was born overseas on a US army base. My grandfather served in WWII, and his father in WWI. That's as far back as I've traced things, but I'm sure there's others. Nothing pisses me off like using military service as a get everything free card, or a "you're persecuting a vet" card, as all this serves to do is smear the name of countless Americans (or <insert nation you're from>) who've given their lives, their health, or if nothing else, years of their life, as Avenged Sevenfold put best, "fighting to defend their rights so they can maintain the lifestyle that insults his family's existence".

                    </rant>
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                    • #11
                      Ugh, so sorry you had to deal with that, Lupo!

                      Hmmm, wonder if I can convince my CEO that your jerky customer is a guy who we need to partner with...she'd call him at all hours of the day and night, and bug him constantly... hmmmm....
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                      • #12
                        Lupo, I'm sorry you had to deal with that. RK is right; he used your good character against you. I'm proud of you for standing up for what's right.
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                        • #13
                          Quoth Irving Patrick Freleigh View Post
                          If he didn't even have an actual veteran's card, just a photocopy of one, I'd think it might be fake and ask him where he trained and where he was first stationed.

                          I've heard from friends and family members who have been in the military that vets DO NOT forget that information.

                          What a loser that guy was.
                          Heck, I know where Mom was trained and stationed...Dad's first station, too, but not where he trained.
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                          • #14
                            Wow what are the odds? 2 race card stories in one CS.com reading-session? I've seen all races, including white, use that card.
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                            • #15
                              *gives Lupo a hug*

                              Hmm, if I didn't think the dud wouldn't turn it back on me, I might have said, "hey my dad was in the military too. He was racist. I guess all military people are racist, huh?" So far as I can remember my dad, he wasn't a racist.

                              I'm just thinking, with how much bookstores buy back books for (say, a $60 book I had I sold back for around$5), he would have to have stolen a lot of books to get any money off of it. And he wasn't coming back for a refund (if he wanted one, no doubt he would say he lost it with the wallet ).
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