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  • Pretentious Putz Of The Year (warning: long!)

    So, you want to make something? Great! We’ll be happy to help you at the fabric store, if you remember a few simple guidelines:

    1. Before you come into the store, measure whatever it is you’re covering / whoever you’re making an outfit for / otherwise figure out how much cloth you need. Don’t just assume that we know how much fabric you’ll need to make a tablecloth for your dining room table. Tables come in all sizes. Similarly, don’t assume that our salesperson is the same size as the person you’re making the gift for, or the fabric counter is the size of the area you’re trying to cover; the odds against that are quite long.

    2. Don’t give yourself airs. Chances are, you are not the only customer in the store. You wouldn’t want someone else to cut in line in front of you, or to interrupt your service, so don’t do the same to them.

    3. If you are getting multiple pieces of cloth cut, don’t dump a few bolts at the counter, tell the employee how much you want of each, and then wander off to get more fabric. We have this wonderful invention, you may have heard of it, called a shopping cart (or trolley). With it, you can carry many heavy bolts of fabric without straining yourself. Just take a cart from the convenient location by the front door, wheel it around the store and put all the bolts you want in it, then when you’ve picked out all the fabric you want, then you can wait in line at the cut counter. It’s no different than the grocery store; you get everything you want before you get in line.

    4. Seriously, it’s really rude, not only to the employees but to the other customers, to keep going back and forth, changing your mind and taking up the employee’s time at the cut counter. S/he could’ve served several other guests in the time it took you to go back and forth and decide whether you wanted the chiffon or the georgette.

    5. If you’re browsing the fabric racks and decide you don’t want the fabric you picked out, put it back the way you found it. Not upside down, not in the wrong rack, not dumped on top of the racks or on the floor. Would you want someone to make a mess of your place like that? No? Then don't do it to ours!

    6. You tell us how much fabric you want, and we will roll it out to measure and cut. You do not ask us to measure out all the fabric on the bolt, then say you only want x yards. We have to reroll all that excess fabric back onto the bolt, and that takes yet more time.

    7. This is America. We still use inches and yards to measure. Yes, I know the rest of the world uses meters, don’t ask me why we’re still using inches and yards, don’t mock me for it, it’s not my idea. No, we don’t have a conversion chart in the store (I’ve looked), but there are many available online, so you can figure out how much you need before you go to the fabric store (see Rule 1).

    8. I am an employee of the store. I am not your personal servant. Again, I have other customers to help; I cannot spend several hours on you. I do not care how important you (think you) are, or how much you’re planning to spend. Get your act together beforehand and we can both get done more quickly.

    You may ask what brought all this on. I’ve commented before that I’ve had very few sucky customers. Well, this guy made up in quality what we’ve missed in quantity.

    This really arrogant, pretentious guy and his girlfriend/wife/female friend/other (I had no interaction with her) came into our store and first made a mess of our special occasion fabric section (the fancier stuff, like satin and chiffon), leaving bolts here, there and everywhere. I didn’t know they’d wanted them, so when I started to put them away, he commandeered me, told me he wanted the fabric and wanted me to cut it.

    So I took it to the counter and asked them how much they wanted. They didn’t know. They hadn’t done any measuring. The guy assumed the area was the size of our cut counter, so he measured it, grumbled about how we use yards instead of meters, and then asked me how much fabric was on Bolt 1. I measured it out. Five yards plus. He wanted it all.

    He wanted all the fabric measured out on Bolt 2. Seven yards plus. He wanted it all.

    He wanted all the fabric measured out on Bolt 3. Eight yards plus. “Give me six and a half.” So I had to re-measure from the beginning and re-roll the remainder back on the bolt. He did this several more times, then wandered off to get more fabric. He kept bringing up new bolts of fabric for me to measure, deciding if he wanted it or not and how much, and wandering off for more fabric again.

    Meanwhile, there are other people waiting in line and I cannot help them as my handheld has the guy’s order, I cannot suspend it and he’s still bringing up more and more.

    My coworker on the cash register was due for her break, and I was scheduled to relieve her, so I printed out the guy’s ticket, let my cut counter coworker know what was going on and went to relieve the cashier. Several minutes later I see the guy and lady walk out the door with no fabric. My cut counter coworker came up to me (there were no customers around at the time) and told me that he’d come back to the counter and demanded, “Where is the servant?!”

    I have to admit, I kind of lost it there. Not out loud verbally, but my hands spasmed as if I were trying to strangle someone, then I grabbed my scissors and started stabbing the air, like Norman Bates attacking Janet Leigh in the shower. My coworker was amused; she thought he was a jerk too and advised me to just laugh it off.

    Apparently he’s going to come back later to buy the fabric. Fine, let him. Hopefully, the manager who has no problem telling off jerks will handle him.
    Last edited by XCashier; 06-30-2010, 02:26 AM. Reason: misspelling that Word for some reason didn't catch
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  • #2
    Oooooooh! I hated it when people wanted to know how much was on a bolt and then decided they didn't want it!!

    If you bloody well know how much you need, tell me. I could usually guesstimate how much was on the bolt based on the number of turns of fabric were wound on it. If you need nine and there's only five turns, there's no way it will be enough. STOP WASTING MY TIME!!!

    As for people not knowing how much fabric they needed, I always steered them towards the patterns. Told 'em to find one that matched what they were wanting to make and we went from there, modifying for naps or patterns. I repeated over and over and OVER that I could not guarantee that the amount of fabric was correct based on guesses about measurements. I pushed heavily for the customers to either go home and get the patter and measurements or to buy extra fabric. Still, I think I was fortunate I never had an SC come back to rant that I made them buy too much.
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    • #3
      And this is why I always over-estimate how much fabric I will need for anything.

      Six simple one-seam skirts and enough brocade to create faux bodices for six small-ish girl-children? 1 1/2 yards per skirt and 1/2 yard per bodice.

      I might have extra fabric left over (Ok... I -will- have fabric left over), but I will also have enough for spares and extra dodads later on.

      I shop in the "Ooo! This looks -perfect-! Probably need this much, but let's add an extra yard in case I screw something up." method. Hasn't failed me yet. (The muslin that I bought once didn't like my sewing machine... I ruined 1/4 yard and said "Crap... Hand sewn it is!")
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      • #4
        Buh...where is the servant? Where is the servant?! Are you freaking KIDDING ME?

        Where is this dude from and what time period is he stuck in (well...jerks are jerks in any time period, but still)? I totally understand your reaction to hearing about that -- I'd flip!

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        • #5
          Quoth alowlypotato View Post
          Buh...where is the servant? Where is the servant?! Are you freaking KIDDING ME?
          Precisely. That statement was the shit icing on the suck cake. Everything else I've dealt with before, with a and a mental, "here we go again." But the arrogance, the condescencion, the "I'm your master and you are my slave" mentality...that won this guy the Pretentious Putz Of The Year award, in my book.
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          • #6
            Was he American? Bitching about it being yards instead of metres, using the term "servant"... it seems sort of out of character for an American to do that seriously.

            As an American living in Australia, where they use the metric system, I whinge constantly about metres. To my husband. And my close friends. At home. Where it's safe.

            NOT to everybody everywhere who don't know what I mean when I ask for a pound or a gallon. (Imperial System, FTW!)

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            • #7
              Quoth DemoDiva View Post
              NOT to everybody everywhere who don't know what I mean when I ask for a pound or a gallon. (Imperial System, FTW!)
              Well, "a pint's a pound the world around", but outside the US of A the term "gallon" doesn't mean what you'd expect it to. (gallon_US ≡ 231 cubic inches, or 3.785 litres; gallon_IMP ≡ 10 pounds of water, or ≈ 4.5 litres, I don't remember the exact conversion.) I'd expect an Australian who's old enough to remember gallons to use the second definition.

              (edit: How old would such a hypothetical Aussie have to be? How long ago did they switch?)
              Last edited by Shalom; 06-30-2010, 04:16 AM.

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              • #8
                Quoth Shalom View Post
                Well, "a pint's a pound the world around", but outside the US of A the term "gallon" doesn't mean what you'd expect it to. (gallon_US ≡ 231 cubic inches, or 3.785 litres; gallon_IMP ≡ 10 pounds of water, or ≈ 4.5 litres, I don't remember the exact conversion.) I'd expect an Australian who's old enough to remember gallons to use the second definition.

                (edit: How old would such a hypothetical Aussie have to be? How long ago did they switch?)
                I think they switched in the 70's, around the time they attempted it in the States. My mother-in-law remembers Imperial, and she's 49. A lot of the old biddies still use Imperial, which implies they were old enough when the switch happened to disregard it entirely. My MIL also remembers when Australia had dollar bills and pennies.

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                • #9
                  Quoth Shalom View Post
                  (edit: How old would such a hypothetical Aussie have to be? How long ago did they switch?)
                  My husband (45) barely remembers it. I (42) don't, but I remember my mother having a rarely-used conversion table. Our kitchen scales and kitchen stove both used imperial measurements, but our cookbooks had conversion tables so that didn't matter.

                  Except for the old cookbook that Mum inherited from an older relative. That one didn't.


                  As for fabric buying: A metre is just a tad longer than a yard. (1 yard, 3.35 inches)
                  At retail level, the difference is small. (For a wholesale buyer, the difference would add up!)
                  Someone like NotSoInnocent who's already figured in slack can (probably) buy yards, even if they calculated in metres.
                  Someone's who's happy to get extra slack can buy metres even if they calculated yards.
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                  2. If you're consistently getting results you don't want, change what you do.
                  3. Deal with the situation you have now, however it occurred.
                  4. Accept the consequences of your decisions.

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                  • #10
                    Quoth Seshat View Post
                    My husband (45) barely remembers it. I (42) don't, but I remember my mother having a rarely-used conversion table.
                    My MIL has one taped up next to the stove in her kitchen. I found this extremely useful when using her cookbooks. Ultimately, I just gave up and bought a food scale because it's so much easier just to weigh things listed in grams than to try and figure out weight/volume to get it in cups. :P (I'm looking at you, Butter.)

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                    • #11
                      The few times I had to deal with someone wanting meters instead of yards (and they didn't have a pattern for it already) I would grab a random pattern and check the back. Most kids' dress patterns have a size on it that requires 1 yard of fabric for something, and the metric equivalents are right there on the back.
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                      • #12
                        See, I have grown up with three sets of measurements. Canada never really switched - code in the '80s was still imperial (we officially switched in the '70s), and because of the whole "sleeping elephant" thing we have a hard time actually switching. So all the "old" folks still use imperial. Heck, there are people my age (probably a majority of them) who measure height and weight in imperial. But, again, because of the "sleeping elephant" thing, we also use American liquid measures sometimes. It's just like when I'm trying to use knitting needles - do I use the old measurement, the modern one or the American one? Drives me CRAZY.

                        HOWEVER, all North American patterns (and I think Burda too?) have both sets of yardage measurements. (We still call it yardage here...) And the conversions aren't that hard to do. Although the above rant does imply that I'm better at those conversions than average...

                        Anyone else, not from Canada, have the equivalents stuck in their head? i.e. you see 1 cup, you see 250 mL, and it doesn't register that they're not actually the same?

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                        • #13
                          i remember that failed attempt to convert to metric, it was hard in the beginning, but if people had been smart, we would have stuck to it, but...

                          servant? too bad you didn't have the option to tell him to gtfo after that; no matter how much he would have brought in, it wasn't enough to cover putting up with him or potentially losing other customers over him. ass doesn't begin to cover what he is...
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                          • #14
                            He had an accent, but I couldn't place it. Some people who've lived in the US for decades still have the accent of their place of origin, though.

                            And he didn't have a pattern; he was completely winging it. It sounded like he was covering walls or tables with fabric. If he'd even measured whatever it was in meters, I'm sure we could've figured out the equivalent in yards, but he didn't even do the original measuring in the first place.

                            It was his whole attitude that got me. I've had several internationally born customers who've been nothing but nice and polite, I have nothing against non-Americans at all. I don't like being treated like scum just because I work in customer service (well, nobody does, that's pretty much the point of this board!) and no, you are not better than me or the other customers that have been waiting for you to finish.

                            TL;DR version: Plan ahead, leave the snobby attitude at home and for heaven's sake, use a shopping cart if you're getting a lot of fabric!
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                            • #15
                              Yes! Yes! and YESSS!! I've also worked in a fabric shop and all of the above is spot-on! It was BY FAR the worst job I've ever worked (also probably didn't help that I don't sew at all ) The worst were the designers (we were a home decor only fabric store...no clothing stuffs! Thank god!) who would come in a expect you to drop everything and catering only to them. ugh...or the people who would come in wanting to change their home decor (drapes/sofas or a full scheme change) and only have a very vague idea what they want and expect you to know!

                              I could go on for days on how much fabrics customers suck!
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