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  • Accusing me of Theft Doesn't Get You A Discount

    <sigh> So many stories to post lately, but I've been uber busy working on a couple of big website projects. This one, however, took the cake.

    Background: Basically, about four, maybe five months ago I hired a friend of mine to code up my website designs, since I suck at it. A major part of our clientele are people who have purchased a specific script...which comes with a rather ugly default template. I've fought hard to become the main provider of custom templates for this script, and we even started selling cheap premade templates for it. At first, when we started providing them, installation was difficult to do, due to the rigidity of the script. After a couple of months though, we worked with the script company and got them to work out a new setup, so that we can install premades faster, and we were able to lower our prices on installations. Cue the story.


    Right when I hired my coder to start working for me, Sucky Client bought a $30 premade, paid the $50 extra for the installation. A bit later, he placed an order for a template, which didn't end up working out, and he canceled it.

    He contacted me yesterday, wanting to inquire yet again about a custom design. I quoted him, increasing the price by 50% due to his previous butt-beret-ness. He flipped his lid. Eventually he quieted down, and an hour later he inquires AGAIN on a design price. This time, however, he throws in a nice little twist.

    SC: What's the price on a design? Don't forget what you took from me last time.

    Seraph: Excuse me?

    SC: Yes, last time, you took my money.

    Seraph: As you well know, I didn't take a deposit from you the last time, and even if I had, due to the fact you canceled, you would've gotten a refund.

    SC: I am speaking about the premade. I paid you $80, and I see on your site it is $70. You took my money.

    I went and looked up his emails, and sure enough, he did, but it was back when installations were difficult. I inform him of this, and he is less than thrilled.

    SC: You send me payment thing for 80, site says 70. You took $10 of mine. Not very nice of you, but I understand.

    Seraph: Say wha? If you understand that it was before the price decrease, then why is it not nice of me?

    SC: You took $10 of mine. $10 is $10. :-P

    Seraph: No, I did not take more money. You paid the standard fee for the time. Everyone then paid the $50, though, prices have gone down a bit now. Thats not theft, thats how things go sometimes in the business world

    Seraph: You wouldn't go to a gamestop and demand a discount on purchasing a ps3 because you bought a ps2 when it was really expensive, and they are cheap now

    SC: Well I thougt it has always been 70$. you sure it changes?

    Seraph: I just fudging told you it did, and showed you your emails.

    SC:

    SC: So you won't give me a discount then? I don't want to pay $750, I want to like $200-300 like your other clients.

    Seraph: After what you've just said? Definitely not.


    <eyetwitch> Yes, some of the others paid a small amount, but they had ONE page customized, whereas you are asking for FIVE custom pages, flash images, a banner set for advertising, and massive rewriting done to the script you purchased!!

    I've blocked him for the time being, I don't have time atm to mess around with people who obviously just want to waste my time getting extensive quotes done and have no intention of buying anything.
    By popular request....I am now officially the Enemy of Normalcy.

    "What is unobtainium? To Seraph, it's a normal client. :P" -- Observant Friend

  • #2
    Your business seems to attract the terminally cheap...

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    • #3
      Web design does that a lot, but the people from this particular industry are SERIOUSLY cheapos. The script itself is a bargain thing, its like $150 for something that if they got it custom made, would be $5,000 at the least. So I guess they translate that as "Hey, I saved a killing on the script, this designer should do the same!" Its a major pain, and I'm desperately doing my best to get clients who aren't in that same industry. I need to break out of this rut. ><
      By popular request....I am now officially the Enemy of Normalcy.

      "What is unobtainium? To Seraph, it's a normal client. :P" -- Observant Friend

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      • #4
        A lot of people tend to think there isn't as much work involved in coding/graphic design as there is. Most every computer illiterate person I know thinks downloading an illegal copy of photoshop bestows some magical graphic design power upon the user. Anyone can do it!
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        • #5
          May I be nosy and ask what the industry is?
          I'll guess....SALES.
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          • #6
            I wonder how this jerk reacts to the price of gas going up...

            "Last time I filled up it was 108.9 cents/L... today it's 103.9 cents/L. I should get a discount of 4 cents/L if I fill up right now, because I overpaid you last time!"
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            • #7
              Quoth Seraph View Post
              Seraph: No, I did not take more money. You paid the standard fee for the time. Everyone then paid the $50, though, prices have gone down a bit now. Thats not theft, thats how things go sometimes in the business world
              Ya, imagine that! Prices on things go down as time goes on. In fact, I'm outright pissed!! My copy of Link to the Past cost around $60 back when it was first released. Now you can find it on Virtual Console for $8.00. I'm going to call Nintendo and demand my $52 they stole from me!
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              • #8
                Quote Mr. Hero
                Ya, imagine that! Prices on things go down as time goes on. In fact, I'm outright pissed!! My copy of Link to the Past cost around $60 back when it was first released. Now you can find it on Virtual Console for $8.00. I'm going to call Nintendo and demand my $52 they stole from me!
                It's sad, but I'd wish that'd work LOL

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                • #9
                  Quoth Cutenoob View Post
                  May I be nosy and ask what the industry is?
                  I'll guess....SALES.
                  Sorta kinda not really....lol. Its called the GPT industry...kinda weird, but eh. I worked hard to become the main designer and now I realize why everyone else left. :P
                  By popular request....I am now officially the Enemy of Normalcy.

                  "What is unobtainium? To Seraph, it's a normal client. :P" -- Observant Friend

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                  • #10
                    Quoth Whiskey View Post
                    A lot of people tend to think there isn't as much work involved in coding/graphic design as there is. Most every computer illiterate person I know thinks downloading an illegal copy of photoshop bestows some magical graphic design power upon the user. Anyone can do it!
                    I certainly thought that at one point.

                    I was so very wrong. But soon enough, I got a proper copy of the program, and spent some time playing around with it. Soon I went from making obviously bad photoshops, bad graphics, and whatnot, to making better material. (Examples of my "better" stuff: Mr. Kennedy (WWE), "Sin City"-style Bobby Barnes (a character in a wrestling eFed I was in))

                    I still wouldn't call myself "good" with photoshop. I know enough to know my limitations.
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                    • #11
                      Quoth Seraph View Post
                      Its called the GPT industry
                      General Purpose Technology?
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                      • #12
                        It would seem that anything computer/internet related brings out the suck, I had people DEMAND I discount the price of parts because they say they saw it on sale/cheaper/made it up some where.
                        Crono: sounds like the machine update became a clusterf*ck..
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                        • #13
                          Quoth Cutenoob View Post
                          May I be nosy and ask what the industry is?
                          I'll guess....SALES.
                          Quoth smileyeagle1021 View Post
                          General Purpose Technology?
                          Would be nice, but it sadly isn't...

                          <coughs> Its...Get Paid To. Long story short, they pay people to sign up for stuff, and the whole idea is to make money on the comissions for signups. Sorta sales, sorta not.
                          By popular request....I am now officially the Enemy of Normalcy.

                          "What is unobtainium? To Seraph, it's a normal client. :P" -- Observant Friend

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