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  • Assorted tales of woe.

    I've been here for years, but just haven't had a whole lot to post. Well, things have changed haha.

    Background: I work in benefits. Health, pension, retirement, and life insurance to be exact. I'm on the front lines, highly trained (higher than anyone else at my level) and have been recognized numerous times for my excellent customer service and problem solving abilities. I love my job, I do! But I've noticed myself getting a little....sassier lately, perhaps due (in part?) to all of the nincompoopery I've dealt with lately.

    If you'd shut up for 3 seconds, I can answer your questions!
    I work on the phones. Benefits are "broken"? They call us. They have questions about their insurance? They call us. They want to start a retirement? They call us. You get the idea....

    One BIG question we get all the time is about Medicare. (For those across the pond, Medicare is the US Medical program for folks over 65 and disabled people. People always always have questions about big, bad Medicare. Medicare happens to be one of my specialties, and I'm glad to explain it to people. If they'd just. Shut. Up. Sometimes. This one lady in particular, we'll call her R, for Rude: (this is paraphrased, of course)....

    Me: Good afternoon, my name is ________.
    R: I'm turning 65 and going on Medicare. Can you help me?
    Me: Absolutely, let's-
    R: Well, so-and-so told me that [some random untruth about coverage].
    Me: I'm sorry ma'am, that's not actually how---
    R: But I don't get it. Can you explain it to me?
    Me: Sure! So there are two major parts--- (getting a little annoyed)
    R: What do I need? What plans?
    Me: Ma'am. I'm trying really hard to assist you, but it's very difficult for me to answer your questions when you continue to interrupt me. I can help you with any questions you have, but we're not going to get anywhere if you don't let me talk and give you answers. Okay?
    R: (meekly) ...okay
    Me: Okay, so Medicare is.....

    For real? You're 65, retired (with benefits, which means you worked for a LONG TIME WITH THE SAME COMPANY!), and you still haven't learned the mechanics of a conversation? I talk, you talk, I talk, you talk. Simple.

    Being rude won't work. Sorry.

    One major hiccup we have right now is retirement. We just had several thousand people retire. At the same time. There are about 30 (maybe) people who handle retirements. I'm one of them. A few unlucky souls have to have theirs done entirely by hand. Which, when we have this many, creates quite a backlog. Things that used to take a week are now taking 3, you get the idea....

    We'll have people call in and try to bully us into "complete it TODAY or else!" and try to intimidate us. I'm sorry, that's not going to work. You have to wait in line...like everyone else.

    It's even better though when everything is finally finished and ready for them to sign off on (literally, sign off on). They can't seem to follow a simple instruction: mail the whole thing back. No, not just the signature page. We need the whole entire thing, and everything has to be right or you won't get your money right then. Sorry.

    One gem today (we'll call him B, for Bully wanna-be)

    B: But we got married FOUR YEARS ago and I tried to change her last name (wife's last name in our system was different than how she signed it) but you guys did it wrong!
    Me: I do apologize, but I don't see a record of you calling in requesting us to change it for her. It's a very simple process, it will take just a moment. (It's important to mention here that we also do chat-support, but we can't process ANYTHING via chat. This conversation happened to be on chat). I can assure you that once we correct her name and send you a new document with the correct name to sign and return, the process will be smooth.
    B: You guys never do anything right! I said I've tried it and every time you said it would be done, it wasn't! [Company] sucks!
    Me: I understand your frustration, but unfortunately we cannot accept this document as-is. Please contact the benefits center at [phone number] so we can correct her name and send you a new document.
    B: Oh yeah, and they'll say it will be done again and it won't be. I called yesterday and was on hold for thirty minutes waiting to talk to someone!
    Me: I apologize, our volumes have been very high. However, we're not very busy right now, you'll be able to get straight through to someone who will be able to assist you.
    B: What, just to tell me something will be done again when it won't? Send me a new document with her name on it immediately!
    Me: I do apologize, I'm not able to process transactions via chat [we had this discussion earlier]. You will need to call into the benefits center to get this taken care of.
    B: Fine, I'll call now. Thanks for nothing, you've been no help at all.
    Me: [thoroughly annoyed at this point] You're very welcome. Have a great day.

    I checked his account this afternoon. He never called in..... Guess who won't get his money?


    Be mean. See if that makes me want to help you.

    Sometimes we make mistakes. There's a lot going on, it happens. And we try to make good when that happens. This one guy in particular? There was an account number entered wrong in part of the process. Which delayed his payment possibly a month, maybe longer. Because it was our error, I'm going to try to get an off-cycle payment for him (which takes essentially an act of congress).

    He's gonna be S, for sarcastic.

    He had already rambled on about how much we suck, how much we don't care, etc for like 5 minutes while I was working on a solution.
    Me: I do understand where you're coming from, Sir. I can hear that you're frustrated. This was our error, I'm going to see what I can do to remedy this for you. [establishes a time to call back with more info]
    S: Oh, sure...see what you can do. [Company] doesn't care about the little people, [company] doesn't want to give us the money.
    Me: I understand your frustration, I'm going to see what I can do. I'll call you back--
    S: What, to tell me that I won't have my money for another month? [Company] surely cares about us! (sarcastically). They want to help us!!
    Me: [annoyed] Sir, I understand your frustration, but I won't tolerate sarcasm, and being sarcastic isn't going to solve this problem any faster. I'll work on a solution and call you back by Thursday. Okay? Can I help you with anything else today?
    S: Uh, no...that's it. *click*

    Me: 1, him: 0.


    Of course there are various other gems, but the best ones are always the ones I have to take control of because the person is so off-base. I get that I deal with these people's money and health insurance...two hugely important things in their lives. BUT....it doesn't give them a right to treat me (or anyone else) like a steaming pile of crap when all I'm trying to do is help them. I'll take some abuse if they're frustrated or whatever, but there comes a time when I'll put my foot down and allow no more.
    Train up a child in the way he should go, and when he is old he will not depart from it.

    Proverbs 22:6

  • #2
    I work on the phone too and get to deal with the sarcasm and downright ugly behavior of SC's. Today's icing on my cake was a older woman on a "fixed income" (yeah, yeah, we're all on a fixed income lady). Her electric bill was about $20 higher than normal and you thought the world was going to come crashing to a halt.

    I explained her bill, line by line, reviewed the account and determined the billing was correct (record high temps here, and she's using a window ac unit). I offered tips on how to reduce her usage (reducing her future bills) and even offered a brochure that lists a gazillion things you can do to reduce your bill. She refused my advice and brochure.

    When she paused, I asked if there were any other questions, or concerns, or anything else I could help her with, and she replied..."You haven't been any help at all".

    The gloves came off (I'm normally very calm, and it takes quite a bit to get me riled up). I told her that "Frankly, I'm hurt that you feel I haven't been helpful" and I list all the things I've done for her. "I'm sorry but I can't magically make your bill smaller, or make it disappear. What, specifically, would you like for me to do for you today?"

    Then she hung up on me!

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    • #3
      I work on the phone, too. The "fixed income" people drive me crazy. Keep in mind that I work for a company that provides a rather expensive type of storage. People often use our storage because it is brought to them, meaning they don't have to rent a truck, load it, drive it to a storage facility and unload it their. So they use our company whether they can afford it or not. Then they call and whine about every little charge - especially late fees. I hear about a hundred times a day how they can't afford to pay the late fees because they are on a fixed income. And they take offense when I point out that if they pay their rent on time, they won't be charged a late fee. Imagine that....
      "I guess they see another cash cow just waiting to be dry humped." - Irving Patrick Freleigh

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      • #4
        Quoth thegiraffe View Post
        I get that I deal with these people's money and health insurance...two hugely important things in their lives. BUT....it doesn't give them a right to treat me (or anyone else) like a steaming pile of crap when all I'm trying to do is help them. I'll take some abuse if they're frustrated or whatever, but there comes a time when I'll put my foot down and allow no more.
        I too work on the phones in health insurance. People don't seem to comprehend that if you're polite and ask for help, I will bend over backwards for you. However, if you treat me like something that you would scrape off the bottom of your shoe, don't expect me to go to the ends of the earth for you. I'll do my job, and I'll do what I can, but it makes it hard for me to put a personal interest in solving all your worldly problems.
        That is so full of suck Dyson doesn't know how they did it - shankyknitter

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        • #5
          Quoth Sonoma View Post
          People don't seem to comprehend that if you're polite and ask for help, I will bend over backwards for you. However, if you treat me like something that you would scrape off the bottom of your shoe, don't expect me to go to the ends of the earth for you.
          Amen sister!

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          • #6
            I feel you. Working with the elderly on something as complicated as retirement and Medicare is....annoying.

            I had 7 years of dealing with it in <government agency>.
            I have a...thing. Wanna see it?

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            • #7
              My mom works for the senior citizen division of my county and she has stories like this all the time. Some of them are just downright incredible.

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              • #8
                Old people are some of the most entitled. They think because they haven't died yet that everyone younger than them somehow owes them something.
                Customers should always be served . . . to the nearest great white.

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                • #9
                  Quoth thegiraffe View Post
                  Be mean. See if that makes me want to help you.
                  Why don't people understand this?! Since when do shouts, curses, and insults actually make other people want to help out?

                  If my son is crying, and I want him to stop crying, I don't slap him across the face and tell him to shut up. That would make him cry more because then he'd be confused and in pain as well as mad over whatever it is that made him cry in the first place. (Sadly, I know, some parents do treat their children this way, thinking that it will work, and that may be part of the root of the problem.)

                  I don't like the direction our society appears to be going. If I had the money, I'd fund NASA's efforts at manned missions to Mars myself just so long as they agreed to take me along.

                  Quoth freeatlast View Post
                  The "fixed income" people drive me crazy.
                  Same here. Several times--especially when I worked retail and was subject to the unpredictable winds of labor budgets--I've wanted to say: "Well, at least you know how much money you're getting every month! I can't plan my bills around when I'll get sick or when I'm forced to take time off so my employer can afford to let me keep my job."

                  It's like they think that "fixed" means "small" instead of "constant" or "unchanging."
                  I suspect that... inside every adult (sometimes not very far inside) is a bratty kid who wants everything his own way.
                  - Bill Watterson

                  My co-workers: They're there when they need me.
                  - IPF

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                  • #10
                    Another phone slave here! In my experience, the ones who make the most noise are the ones who are already getting something for free or for a very low price!

                    I've had more people swear at me, hang up on me or just be generally very rude over free stuff than over stuff they paid for.

                    If you spend a few thousand on advertising and we mess it up, I can understand being upset. If you're getting a freebie (or 100's of them, because frankly we know that you're actually running a business out of your home, we just can't prove it) and we make a mistake on it...guess what...it's FREE. You are not entitled to "compensation" for something that didn't cost you any money to begin with. We just correct the error and move on.
                    When you start at zero, everything's progress.

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                    • #11
                      And that guy on chat... you know that he's now going to say that he tried twice, and it wasn't changed. He told you you needed to send him something in his wife's married name. (Hmmmm... that reminds me, I really need to get around to finishing changing my name...)

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                      • #12
                        Quoth Magpie View Post
                        (Hmmmm... that reminds me, I really need to get around to finishing changing my name...)
                        When I got married we didn't even try to do name-changing. Mrs. Salesmonkey would have had to do paperwork with multiple insurance, licensing, and government entities and any of these interactions would have been an opportunity for mistakes to have been made that would cause us more misery and hassle. So she still does all business and legal stuff under her own name and only uses Mrs. Salesmonkey for social identification.
                        "Them boys ain't zombies! They're just stupid!"

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                        • #13
                          Quoth Sonoma View Post
                          I However, if you treat me like something that you would scrape off the bottom of your shoe, don't expect me to go to the ends of the earth for you. I'll do my job, and I'll do what I can, but it makes it hard for me to put a personal interest in solving all your worldly problems.
                          So much WORD to this.

                          In fact, I almost have it down to a science as to the BARE minimum that I can do in order to keep my job. Does it come as any surprise that the SCs that you have described get *this* level of service from me?

                          The nice ones? I'll move heaven and earth to get them what they need or want. The smart ones realize this.
                          "So, if you wanna put places like that outta business, just stop being so rock-chewingly stupid." ~ Raudf, 9/19/13

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                          • #14
                            Quoth Salesmonkey View Post
                            When I got married we didn't even try to do name-changing. Mrs. Salesmonkey would have had to do paperwork with multiple insurance, licensing, and government entities and any of these interactions would have been an opportunity for mistakes to have been made that would cause us more misery and hassle. So she still does all business and legal stuff under her own name and only uses Mrs. Salesmonkey for social identification.
                            If I hadn't been right out of school you bet your bottom dollar I wouldn't have done it either. And there's a reason I didn't want to hyphenate - My professional licence won't be too bad, they're going to be used to women sending in the marriage certificate along with the degree. For Jackdaw, however, it would have been a pain.

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