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    It's late summer and our family practice clinic is getting the classics:

    1. Parent drops off camp or sports form to be filled out for kid "I'll be back in 30 minutes to pick it up". Uh, no. A). Kid hasn't been seen in 15 months, and that was for a sore throat. Last physical was years ago. B). We are busy seeing patients, dealing with phone calls & refills, not gonna drop everything & fill out a form for little Mr. Son-of-EW. "Can't you just fill it out and we'll make an appointment soon?" Uh, that's fraud...

    2. Parent books 2 or more kids back-to-back, and shows up at the latest of the multiple times. With no paperwork completed. "Can't you just squeeze kid A in?" Uh, why don't you ask the next patient; who's already here?

    3. Parent drops kid off with no insurance card, no paperwork, no signed permission to give kid immunizations, and leaves. Parent gabs on cell phone and won't pick up when called. A sibling is supposed to pick the kid up. Can't start 6th grade without shots. "Why couldn't you just give him the shots?" Uh, it's not legal...

    4. The Boy Scouts now have height/weight maximums for activities wherein the scouts will be 30 or more minutes from advanced medical care. Over half the scouts coming in fail to qualify. "Can't you just say he weighs X?" Well, that's fraud, and anyone with half a brain can look at the kid and tell he weighs 75 lbs more than that.

    5. "He just was in, can't you just fill the form out without us having to come in again?" He was in for hay fever. He's going out for football, a high-injury sport. Your co-pay is $20. That's the cost of a pizza. Isn't your son's health worth a pizza?

    6. Kids parents are divorced, kid goes to school in a district 35 miles from us, but one parent lives here. "Why don't you have the sports form for Hinterland School District? This is terrible, you should have that! She's been a patient here all her life, you should have her school forms!" Fortunately most districts now have them online, but not Hinterland.... "Can't you just call them and have them fax one?" Uh, it's after 4:00, no one is there. What's wrong with bringing the form you were given at school?

    7. Appointments very booked up. Parent makes one kid an appointment, brings in form(s) for other kid(s). "Can't you just fill these out real quick"? Uh, no.

    8. Schedule is double-booked out the ying-yang. "Can't you just squeeze him in? Football practice starts in an hour and he has to have his form!!!" Uh, I believe the classic line is "Your lack of planning does not constitute an emergency for us".

    9. Kid has never been seen here. Needs complete shot records to enter school. Parents have no idea what shots kid has had, no records, and no idea what clinic gave the shots in the first place. "Why don't you have records of her shots? Can't you just put something down saying she's had all her shots, we know she has!" Uh, medical records don't magically beam themselves from clinic to clinic, and no, I don't feel like committing fraud today.

    10. Kid is going out for football, was injured last season, never saw a doctor, exam today shows his shoulder is unstable from dislocation and he needs surgery before he can play. "But it's his senior year! He's gonna get a scholarship! Can't you just let him play?" Right, I'll let you call my malpractice insurance and explain that one.

    11. Kid sustained a concussion in a practice or game. Under our state law, strict rules about how long he/she must be out of practice and games. "Can't you just say it wasn't a concussion?" A two-fer! Malpractice AND breaking state law! Sure, what the hell, why not? NOT!

    This is why I try to schedule a vacation the last week before school starts, every summer. Normally love my job, but I can't stand the SC factor of that week.
    Last edited by skeptic53; 08-19-2010, 03:49 AM.
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  • #2
    Wow's that lot of crap to put up with there. Two things in this post stick out to me as sad commentaries on our society today:

    1) The fact parents don't care about the truth doing things properly and they're openly advocating fraud and/or other illegal actions.

    2) Half the boy scouts miss the weight requirement, just how freakin fat are we getting?
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    • #3
      How sad is it that parents would rather commit fraud than feel inconvenienced by ACTUALLY taking their kid to the freaking doctor?

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      • #4
        How sad is it that a parent is more concerned with their son succeeding in football than making it through high school without any major life altering injuries?

        And they wonder why major league players wind up with drug and alcohol problems.

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        • #5
          Every single one of those made me go

          Especially the one where "football practice starts in an hour." So the parents couldn't find the time ALL SUMMER to get their kid to the doctor and get the proper forms filled out? Really? All summer long, too busy?

          I don't blame you for wanting that week off.
          When you start at zero, everything's progress.

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          • #6
            The one that made me FLIP OUT was the #11. LIE ABOUT A CONCUSSION?!?!? What the HELL is wrong with you? Your child could DIE if you put them back on the field!

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            • #7
              Wow. I know there are people out there who only consider their own convenience. Working in the medical field, we get our share of these, but really??? They want you to lie about a concussion????
              Spending too much time pondering life's ironies.

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              • #8
                Quoth CrazedClerkthe2nd View Post
                just how freakin fat are we getting?
                Put it this way, our clinic had to get two new scales because the old ones only went up to 450 lb (204 kg, 32 stone). The new ones go up to 600 lb (272 kg, 42.8 stone).

                As to "Do they really ask you to lie about concussions???", remember what site you're on...
                Some days, it's just not worth chewing through the restraints...
                TASTE THE LIME JELLO OF DEFEAT! -Gravekeeper

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                • #9
                  Lying about a concussion really irks me. I had 2 major ones as a kid, and now am dealing with the aftermath.
                  "Of all the liars in the world, sometimes the worst are your own fears." – Rudyard Kipling

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                  • #10
                    Quoth skeptic53 View Post

                    10. Kid is going out for football, was injured last season, never saw a doctor, exam today shows his shoulder is unstable from dislocation and he needs surgery before he can play. "But it's his senior year! He's gonna get a scholarship! Can't you just let him play?" Right, I'll let you call my malpractice insurance and explain that one.
                    Please tell me this kid had a recent injury that dislocated his shoulder and he hasn't been walking around with a dislocated shoulder for a year.

                    edit: i might have misread it. he had a dislocation, it was fixed, but needs surgery?
                    Thou shalt not take the name of thy goddess Whiskey in vain.

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                    • #11
                      Quoth Whiskey View Post
                      i might have misread it. he had a dislocation, it was fixed, but needs surgery?

                      you can sometimes self reduce any dislocated joint-but depending on the extent of other injuries it may not "heal" without surgery. dislocations can tear muscle, tendons and ligaments, which won't heal without surgery. But since kid never went to a doctor to find out the full extent of injuries...

                      I am not a medical professional but I have dislocated numerous joints/bones-including (ta-da) my clavicle-that hurts like a sombeach......and due to ligament tearing, it is permanently unstable-dislocates at random-can't be fixed-I've seen 3 different surgeons.
                      Honestly.... the image of that in my head made me go "AWESOME!"..... and then I remembered I am terribly strange.-Red dazes

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                      • #12
                        That sounds like child abuse. My old roommate had a dislocated shoulder for a very long time and it caused a host of other problems for her that affected all aspects of her life.
                        Thou shalt not take the name of thy goddess Whiskey in vain.

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                        • #13
                          Last year (2009) early in the year I dislocated my left shoulder, luckily it got popped back into place without pinching the nerve or anything, but the muscles got moved or something because the entire summer at work it would randomly dislocate again and I'd have to move my arm around/slam my shoulder into a wall to get it back in place. One day they sent me home because I couldn't fix it, my arm was numb and just hanging down...I couldn't move it or anything. Went to bed and the next day it was ok...it's been fine since then pretty much, other than it makes crackly sounds sometimes.
                          Maybe the kid got lucky like I did?
                          Or maybe I'm just special like that.
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                          • #14
                            Yeah, the kid dislocated his shoulder the previous season but it reduced (went back into place) on the field. The rotator cuff, the ligaments that hold the front part of the shoulder joint together, was torn, and his shoulder joint was very loose. He could still use his arm if he didn't lift it too far or move it in certain ways, such as reaching behind. He needed surgery to fix it, no way we could OK him to play football. He didn't tell his parents how bad it was, and/or they chose to be in denial. Why they didn't get it fixed in the off-season is a mystery. They had put up a big fuss wanting his paperwork signed w/o being seen, based on "he was just in". He'd been in for a sore throat in February. So I think the parents suspected he would flunk the physical.

                            I think the big strapping kid avoided surgery because he is afraid of needles, not an uncommon occurence. Teenagers (and many adults) don't think rationally. It's fairly common for people who have a lot of tattoos to not want to have a tetanus shot or blood drawn because they are afraid of needles. Go figure.
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                            • #15
                              Quoth skeptic53 View Post
                              Yeah, the kid dislocated his shoulder the previous season but it reduced (went back into place) on the field. The rotator cuff, the ligaments that hold the front part of the shoulder joint together, was torn, and his shoulder joint was very loose. He could still use his arm if he didn't lift it too far or move it in certain ways, such as reaching behind. He needed surgery to fix it, no way we could OK him to play football. He didn't tell his parents how bad it was, and/or they chose to be in denial. Why they didn't get it fixed in the off-season is a mystery. They had put up a big fuss wanting his paperwork signed w/o being seen, based on "he was just in". He'd been in for a sore throat in February. So I think the parents suspected he would flunk the physical.

                              I think the big strapping kid avoided surgery because he is afraid of needles, not an uncommon occurence. Teenagers (and many adults) don't think rationally. It's fairly common for people who have a lot of tattoos to not want to have a tetanus shot or blood drawn because they are afraid of needles. Go figure.
                              I'd vote for this one. Toughness is bred into athletes again and again and again. No wants a reputation of being a "pansy".
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