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  • Third Week Working, And The Fun Begins (Quite Long)

    So, fun morning today. So much fun that I think if I have any more fun that I will be required to drive my car into an wall at high speeds.

    I work now in the same industry I worked before. Different company, of course, but same old story.

    Now, a little background on our industry. Whenever, and I do mean whenever, an order is placed for items to be manufactured, it needs to be precise. It needs to contain the exact specifications, the corresponding data backed up with drawings, and everything needs to be double-checked for errors. Why? Because if you try to put something up which is the wrong measurements, it won't fit on the building.

    Seriously, that is the first thing you learn about this industry. It's so important that every single company that does it hammers it home, constantly.

    So what do I get today (from the company I used to work at previously, no less)?

    Three orders. Not one thing right on the damn things.

    Firstly, measurements are all over the place, and items are duplicated constantly. Where one should be listed as X, it's listed as X and Y at the same time, while Y is listed as a seperate item also. Which is fine if you want two Y's and an X, not so much if you want one of each. So, I look over that before calling the company we're doing the work for to get it clarified. This amount of X, this amount of Y, and... Z? That leads to...

    Secondly, we quoted for two items. That's all we were given the specs for. Z is bigger than Y, and Y is bigger than X. Y is more expensive than X. Why on this little planet of ours would you possibly think that we'd end up giving you Z for the same price as Y? Of course, a little more research showed that Z shouldn't have been on the damn order in the first place, since it was for a completely different product!

    And Finally, this one was the real kicker. Okay, we understand that one of your orders need to be sent out this week. It's not a lot of time to get the work complete, but by the gods, we can do it. We're just that good.

    However, sending us an order allowing us to charge you exactly $0 is not going to get us to start work immediately. It's going to make us laugh at length before calling you back and informing you of your mistake.

    Now, you can give me all the excuses you want. You were in a hurry on Friday evening and had to get home (and sent us the orders after you know this office is closed). You haven't been feeling well.

    I don't buy a bit of it. You know why? The three orders for various amounts of X and Y are, when all is said and done, exactly the same order , only for different locations. There is no reason these shouldn't have been filled correctly the first time. That and I had your damn job and I never let being in a hurry take me away from doing my job right first time out.

    Bonus: Of course, this whole thing leads to a third problem. A while after I left that company, they changed things up. This person sending us the orders? She's not even supposed to be doing so. You know what that means? Company is going to come to us and ask us why we filled them.

    Of course, the well known response from our company is "that's not our problem. One of your staff stepping out of line is no reason for you not to pay us for work completed." One of the reasons I love this new place, really.

  • #2

    oh, that's all so awesome! I work in a print shop that's currently having so so many issues with customers doing the wrong thing-- so, naturally, it's our fault when the job has to be reprinted (costing thousands of dollars, obscene, really) just because the customer didn't want a proof (a sample) of the job to be printed.
    I feel and understand your pain, and am happy that your company has decided to put the onus where the onus belongs.
    "Is it the lie that keeps you sane? Is this the lie that keeps you sane?What is it?Can it be?Ought it to exist?"
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    • #3
      Quoth teh_blumchenkinder View Post

      oh, that's all so awesome! I work in a print shop that's currently having so so many issues with customers doing the wrong thing-- so, naturally, it's our fault when the job has to be reprinted (costing thousands of dollars, obscene, really) just because the customer didn't want a proof (a sample) of the job to be printed.
      I feel and understand your pain, and am happy that your company has decided to put the onus where the onus belongs.
      Sadly, getting a proof means nothing to some people. I'm of the opinion that no credit should be given for errors that showed on the proof which the customer never read. Some of them will freely admit they never look at them!
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      • #4
        And this is why I double-check everything.
        So I don't end up being an idiot and having someone else hate me.
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        • #5
          Quoth MoonCat View Post
          Sadly, getting a proof means nothing to some people. I'm of the opinion that no credit should be given for errors that showed on the proof which the customer never read. Some of them will freely admit they never look at them!
          Wot is dis reedin thingy ya talkin abawt?

          Guess why we have the pay upfront rule for custom production jobs, and we make them sign that they saw and approved the proofs. So far - knocking on wood - no problems, perhaps because they know that they can get some of the stuff only from us.
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          • #6
            And not only are you blamed if they get the wrong thing (that they ordered!), but you're at fault for delaying things when they clearly want to expedite. I can't tell you the number of times we've been asked to make XYZ and we have info for XY, but no information for Z. Z can be a thousand different sizes/colors/whatever. No we cannot make XYZ and just change part of it when it's ready to ship. We really do need all of the information upfront.
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            • #7
              Anybody else reminded of the scene in This Is Spinal Tap where they order a replica of Stonehenge for their stage show?
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              • #8
                Believe me, not reading your proofs thoroughly can have disasterous consequences. But then, so can not having the money to hire an editor.
                Customers should always be served . . . to the nearest great white.

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                • #9
                  yes, if you have them sign approval before the job is done, with a statement about 'all remakes will be done at customer's cost' may stop some idiots (sadly, not all) from pulling that crap. your mistake=your loss, not the company's.
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                  • #10
                    One of my housemates works in the printing department of OfficeMax, and they make you sign a form saying you got your proof and it is acceptable. Clever, but still not enough to stop the spineless manager from making her redo jobs when the customer is an idiot without charging the customer.

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                    • #11
                      my situation is slightly different. at my pizza place we accept (and encourage) internet orders.

                      NOW my understanding of internet orders is that ordering pizza is just about the same as all other internet type checkouts. you select the items that you wish to order, then click the "checkout" button and the site shows you YOUR EXACT ORDER and what the total cost will be including sales tax and delivery charge. The site EVEN SENDS you an e-mail confirming your order, the order total and a ETA for delivery

                      at least once every week we get the "MY ORDER IS SCREWED UP blargle blargle grummm grummmmm". we print out a copy of our receipt and lo and behold IT IS AN INTERNET order. we ask "Did you check the confirmation screen to make SURE your order was correct???" NO why should I???

                      Nothing like thinking you ordered a large and a medium and actaully ordering a medium and a mini personal pizza. unfortuneately they got free stuff on that one.

                      that being said in the 4 years we have done internet orders there has only been ONE really messed up order (that we can determine anyway) that got screwed up between the customers computer (and through corps servers/website) and our POS system.
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                      • #12
                        Quoth teh_blumchenkinder View Post
                        just because the customer didn't want a proof (a sample) of the job to be printed.
                        I feel and understand your pain, and am happy that your company has decided to put the onus where the onus belongs.
                        Quoth MoonCat View Post
                        Some of them will freely admit they never look at them!
                        Quoth BeeMused View Post
                        Wot is dis reedin thingy ya talkin abawt?
                        Proofs are important >_< I'm sorry, but if we send you a proof (for, say, a check order), you need to REVIEW it.

                        Didn't read it at all (whether you admit it or not)? Told us to go ahead into production before the proof could have conceivably arrived at your building? OK then, you get whatever comes out, and YOU pay for any remakes. If you can't be bothered to make sure that what you're ordering is how it should be, that is YOUR fault, not ours.

                        We ALMOST had a situation like this yesterday, in fact. Lady orders 5-6 different sets of checks for different accounts, all different colors. IIRC, she wanted them so soon that she would not have been able to get a proof in time. Calls us in a panic when they arrive yesterday, almost crying because two of them were "wrong". I take a message because her account manager was in with another client. half an hour later, Lady calls back laughing, having realized that nothing was wrong -- she just had mentally mixed up two of the check designs that happened to draw on the same bank >_<
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