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  • We are not completely heartless.

    I know that here at the DMV we have a reputation for being utterly cold, heartless monsters. But still:

    1. Young girl comes in with her father to get her permit. For a first time permit, license, or ID card, we must see an original birth certificate. No exceptions.

    Unfortunately, the girl did not have hers with her. So when the clerk says, "Well, you need your birth certificate before we can do this," and the girl starts sobbing. Dad is hugging her, "Oh, honey, it will be okay. Don't cry."

    The clerk then offers them a return pass, which means that when they return, they will get right up to the counter without having to wait a second time. The father glares at the clerk, "Wait, are you telling me that you aren't going to give my daughter her permit? Her heart is set on it."

    Seriously, dad, you were under the impression that the clerk was just trying to reduce your daughter to tears FOR FUN? Or that we tell you that we have requirements, unless you can produce tears or blood, at which point we waive the requirements?

    2. From years ago, when I was still in training. It was a minute to 5 pm, closing time (and we lock our doors promptly at closing. We still take care of everyone inside, but no one new gets in). The office I was working at then was in a strip mall shaped like an L, with our office in the corner, with a small garden right in front of it. An elderly lady (in her 70s), came running in from the parking lot to make it in before we closed the doors. In the foyer (between the out door and the one leading into the lobby), she fell, twisting her leg and severely injuring her knee. Several customers helped us to scoop her up and carry her into the lobby.

    Here is where the craziness started. The woman is in extreme pain, writhing and sobbing. Her daughter (who had been parking the car) comes in and she starts sobbing. We want to call for an ambulance, which ratchets the sobbing up even harder. No! No! It's too much trouble! Sob-sob-sob-scream of pain-sob.

    What's the matter? Do you have health insurance? Yes, they had insurance, but they didn't want to impose on the ambulance company or the emergency room. I bite back the inclination to say that they are imposing on US.

    Finally, the manager says to the daughter, "Go get your car, and drive it up as close as you can to the door. Then come back inside to help."

    "I can't do that!" the daughter sobs. "You are closed, the door is locked, and you won't let me in."

    The manager somehow restrained the urge to scream. "Ma'am, we are not the heartless monsters you seem to think we are. We are not going to drag your crippled mother out onto the concrete outside, and leave her there to drag into your car. We need to let you back in so that you can help us carry her out to the car."

    And why did the elderly woman come in? To get a handicap parking permit because she just had gotten out of the hospital for the same knee she had fallen on. We did ask the daughter why she had made her mother come in, and we pointed to the spot on the application where it is clearly marked that someone else can pick up the parking permit if the applicant cannot come in. The daughter didn't think that applied to them, because her mother could "kind of" walk. With great difficulty. With pain.

    Morons.
    To seek it with thimbles, to seek it with care;
    To pursue it with forks and hope;
    To threaten its life with a railway share;
    To charm it with forks and hope!

  • #2
    Motor vehicle department employees have the reputation for being awful, but I have always found them to be patient, friendly and helpful.

    Once I went in to take care of about three different transactions, one of which was unusual and complicated. It was the office's first day with a new computer system. It took forever, but the clerk was patient and polite the whole time.

    Both sets of your SC's were twits.
    Women can do anything men can.
    But we don't because lots of it's disgusting.
    Maxine

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    • #3
      Quoth Mondestrucken View Post
      1. Young girl comes in with her father to get her permit. For a first time permit, license, or ID card, we must see an original birth certificate. No exceptions.
      I'm glad I didn't have that restriction when I got my license. I don't have a birth certificate and never have.

      Then again, except for the long wait times, I've never had any problems at the DMV. It's always been: get their, get my number, wait, watch the idiots around me, wait, read some, wait, get called, get my stuff taken care of, and I'm off.

      Oh, hey, that reminds me. My license expired on Sunday. I should get that dealt with. >_<

      ^-.-^
      Faith is about what you do. It's about aspiring to be better and nobler and kinder than you are. It's about making sacrifices for the good of others. - Dresden

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      • #4
        i'm glad i can renew my stuff by mail/online; when i went in to get my son his id, i'd forgotten the whole birth certificate issue...i didn't throw a fit, just felt stupid for not thinking about it.

        as for the woman, what in the nine levels of hell was she not thinking? mom just gets out of surgery and she makes her get the permit...wtf, you moron!
        look! it's ghengis khan!
        Sorry, but while I can do many things, extracting heads from anuses isn't one of them. (so sayeth the irv)

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        • #5
          I'm very lucky. At my office, 99.99% of the customers are polite, and at least half are actively nice. Also, the clerks here are friendly and fast, and people tend to be reasonable if they see you are trying to take care of them.

          But you know SC's. Nothing appeases the full strength of their suck.
          To seek it with thimbles, to seek it with care;
          To pursue it with forks and hope;
          To threaten its life with a railway share;
          To charm it with forks and hope!

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          • #6
            I think DMV workers get a bad rap. They were able to handle my dorky, nervous self politely and efficiently. I agree with Sparky, the SCs in these examples were twits.

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            • #7
              In my job I work with DMV employees, and the reputation for them being heartless generally comes from people who want what they can't have (reinstatement of license revoked due to DWI, license without proper ID, waived suspensions, etc.). Yes, it IS the employee's fault you were caught driving drunk! Yes, it's completely unreasonable for them to not risk their job to put a dangerous driver back out on the streets! Yes, they ARE taking food from the mouths of your children! What horrible people!
              Last edited by seigus; 10-05-2010, 09:21 PM. Reason: spelling
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              • #8
                Quoth Andara Bledin View Post

                I'm glad I didn't have that restriction when I got my license. I don't have a birth certificate and never have.
                Quoth Grape The Cat View Post

                I think DMV workers get a bad rap.
                I try to be as nice as I can to DMV workers - it isn't their fault the state has such assinine rules

                When we moved to our state, I called first to see what I needed to bring to get my license. Old license from other state, birth certificate, ok, pretty standard.

                Then I was told that because the last name on my current driver's license wasn't the one I was born with, I had to bring in documents to confirm the entire chain of name changes from birth to now: Birth certificate with maiden name; marriage license to prove last name change from maiden to ex's name. Divorce decree to prove I wasn't still married to ex; current marriage license to prove name change from ex's to current hubby, as on my driver's license.

                Of course, after scrambling to find all those documents, all they actually asked for was the birth certificate. But I'm told they "could have" asked for the others.

                I do think that's overkill, never, from any state or even military have I had to have all those documents to prove who I am. But it gets worse. Ok, the state clearly says the reason for birth certificates, etc. is they want to crack down on illegal aliens (views on which I won't discuss), and once you prove that you are a citizen or legal resident, whichever you are is shown on your driver's license. Ok, logical at least. BUT, should you ever have to go to the DMV for anything else, even though you have proved your status and had it duly noted on your license, you STILL have to bring in all the documents you brought in to get the license.

                Ok, I can see if your license says legal resident, you have to prove you still are, cause that is a changeable status. But if you're a citizen, that doesn't have an expiration date And if you don't trust your own license that you gave me after I showed you all my documents, why would you trust those same documents next time? Cmon, at least pretend to have some logic somewhere (oh, yeah, we're talking about government, agencies never mind).

                But I really do feel sorry for the DMV clerks who have deal with all the people so totally frustrated by the assinine and illogical rules - wouldn't it be nice if anyone in government who is responsible or supports implementing a policy or rule had to spend a week dealing personally with the people it affects

                Madness takes it's toll....
                Please have exact change ready.

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                • #9
                  I never had an issue with the DMV employees being assh*les, it just usually takes forever to get anything done there.

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                  • #10
                    I agree that the people who complain the loudest are usually just the ones who got told "NO". And we all know, to a SC, no = rude Working at the DMV really must be a tough job. There are rules that can't be broken, and I bet there's more SC's there than you can shake a stick at. A BIG stick.
                    !
                    "For truth is always strange; stranger than fiction." -- Lord Byron

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                    • #11
                      I have to say I have never had anything but cheery, excellent service at the DMV (except a frighteningly brief and atrociously incomplete driving test delivered by a police officer who had put a passed stamp on it the moment I started the car).

                      It never ceases to amaze me that when you are able to help someone out, if it isn't their way it is still unnacceptable.
                      O God, thy sky is so vast and my plane is so small.

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                      • #12
                        See, I can understand that woman, for some reason, thinking that if she can walk at all she has to be the one to get the permit. I cannot understand her daughter letting her go on her own, instead of walking her in to help her out. Even if you were the heartless beasts she clearly thought you were, I fail to see how that would have been a problem.

                        Quoth Merriweather View Post
                        Then I was told that because the last name on my current driver's license wasn't the one I was born with, I had to bring in documents to confirm the entire chain of name changes from birth to now: Birth certificate with maiden name; marriage license to prove last name change from maiden to ex's name. Divorce decree to prove I wasn't still married to ex; current marriage license to prove name change from ex's to current hubby, as on my driver's license.
                        Wouldn't they not have noticed if you skipped the first marriage certificate and divorce decree?

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                        • #13
                          Quoth Merriweather View Post
                          But I really do feel sorry for the DMV clerks who have deal with all the people so totally frustrated by the assinine and illogical rules - wouldn't it be nice if anyone in government who is responsible or supports implementing a policy or rule had to spend a week dealing personally with the people it affects
                          Why restrict that to government? Some recent changes from corporate could really have used a front-line point of view before being put in place...
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                          • #14
                            Quoth Magpie View Post

                            Wouldn't they not have noticed if you skipped the first marriage certificate and divorce decree?
                            Nope, had to have those because I didn't go back to maiden name after divorce from ex (easier to keep it and have same name as my daughter). So second marriage license had my last name as ex's, not as on birth certficate. Had to have those to show how I got to that point.

                            Madness takes it's toll....
                            Please have exact change ready.

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                            • #15
                              That poor lady! You have to wonder why on earth her daughter was thinking.

                              Our DMV offices here in Florida are pretty great. I've never had to wait for more than an hour and often walk right up to a window.

                              Someone earlier posted taht they didn't even have a birth certificate. For any of you in the same situation be aware that there is a new federal rule that you can't renew your drivers license without a birth certificate, social security card and two letters that were sent to your address. Not all states haved adopted it yet but they will eventually. We were one of the first to adopt it and people havent stopped whining about it yet.

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