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Seriously.
Obligatory BOB: Of course, web designer, sell premade website templates on the side. Recently, I added a really nice one, pricier than the rest, still dirt CHEAP for a template.
Enter the client. Client wishes for the nice, pricey premade template to be altered, dramatically, for his new site. Plus, extra custom pages, a new logo, forum theme design, and a mini-logo for another item. Client...has dealt with me before. I've actually written about him here.
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Seraph: Ok, so with the extra pages, massive alterations to the homepage template, and the logos, etc....my estimate is about $400 for all.
Client: hm
Client: I seriously think that 200$ would be a fair price.
Seraph: And I seriously think you should take your business elsewhere then.
Client: Your coder once did my old website for $50. coding is not expensive
Seraph: No. We will not work for that low. I'm sorry, but there is no negotation at this point.
Client: also i'm oblige to put a link back to you at the bottom?
Seraph: For premades, yes. Its in the terms of service.
Client: I don't like it. it looks unprofessional.
Seraph: Unprofessional? You're buying a PREMADE template for your site.
Client: Well I had a premade before and i took off the link
Seraph: If you did so, then you were in violation of your license and I could have had it revoked. However, since the premade is no longer in use, I guess there's no point in you bringing this up.
Client: There were no rules up, yousaid I could.
Seraph: Please provide proof that I did so, if you would.
Client: This is a new rule, right?
Seraph: No, this is an old one, has been in effect since premades were released.
Client: and I clearly remember that I asked you if I can remove it. you said yes
Seraph: Please provide me proof of that, if so.
Seraph: I don't see why it matters right now, since you are not using the premade any longer. As it stands, the link is REQUIRED to be there on premades. The terms have been on the site for months now.
Seraph: If you have such a problem with my business, then please go elsewhere. I am not budging, and am offended that you would treat me this way.
Client: no no no. I just want to say that you agree
Seraph: I agree with what?
Client: that it's was ok if I removed the link back thing
Seraph: No, I do not agree that its ok.
Client: ok
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I mean, seriously, what the fudge did he think was going to happen? I would magically change stances on a policy I've enforced for almost a year? Now he's wanting a fully custom design done, and is arguing that I should make it, again at half cost, because "coding is so easy and cheap".
Sure, jobs are SUPER rare right now...haven't had an order placed in a couple of weeks or so....but I am so not budging on this. Not after what he did before.
Enter the client. Client wishes for the nice, pricey premade template to be altered, dramatically, for his new site. Plus, extra custom pages, a new logo, forum theme design, and a mini-logo for another item. Client...has dealt with me before. I've actually written about him here.
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Seraph: Ok, so with the extra pages, massive alterations to the homepage template, and the logos, etc....my estimate is about $400 for all.
Client: hm
Client: I seriously think that 200$ would be a fair price.
Seraph: And I seriously think you should take your business elsewhere then.
Client: Your coder once did my old website for $50. coding is not expensive
Seraph: No. We will not work for that low. I'm sorry, but there is no negotation at this point.
Client: also i'm oblige to put a link back to you at the bottom?
Seraph: For premades, yes. Its in the terms of service.
Client: I don't like it. it looks unprofessional.
Seraph: Unprofessional? You're buying a PREMADE template for your site.
Client: Well I had a premade before and i took off the link
Seraph: If you did so, then you were in violation of your license and I could have had it revoked. However, since the premade is no longer in use, I guess there's no point in you bringing this up.
Client: There were no rules up, yousaid I could.
Seraph: Please provide proof that I did so, if you would.
Client: This is a new rule, right?
Seraph: No, this is an old one, has been in effect since premades were released.
Client: and I clearly remember that I asked you if I can remove it. you said yes
Seraph: Please provide me proof of that, if so.
Seraph: I don't see why it matters right now, since you are not using the premade any longer. As it stands, the link is REQUIRED to be there on premades. The terms have been on the site for months now.
Seraph: If you have such a problem with my business, then please go elsewhere. I am not budging, and am offended that you would treat me this way.
Client: no no no. I just want to say that you agree
Seraph: I agree with what?
Client: that it's was ok if I removed the link back thing
Seraph: No, I do not agree that its ok.
Client: ok
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I mean, seriously, what the fudge did he think was going to happen? I would magically change stances on a policy I've enforced for almost a year? Now he's wanting a fully custom design done, and is arguing that I should make it, again at half cost, because "coding is so easy and cheap".
Sure, jobs are SUPER rare right now...haven't had an order placed in a couple of weeks or so....but I am so not budging on this. Not after what he did before.
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