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    Devoted lurker, first time poster! I'm a sales associate at a women's plus-size clothing store. Beyond my five years in retail I have also worked for several non-profit orgs, and will have plenty of stories about them.

    Since ours is a specialty store we don't have nearly as many horror stories as some of you (poor guys!) but we get our fair share of crazy. This story happened a while ago and despite sharing it with several friends and coworkers, I still can't figure out whether or not it was a failed scam.

    Here's some background: Our clothes start at size 14 but since our bras start at 36D and 38C, lots of thin but busty women come here for our very well-made, reasonably priced bras. The mall's "regular" size lingerie and bra store often refers people to us if they are too large for their bras.

    The regular "sale" for bras is Buy One, Get One 50% off. Our customers understand and accept this and we have no problems. (I say "sale" because it's not really a sale; the "discount" is factored in to the price.)

    Twice a year we have a big, clearout sale where bras are Buy Two, Get Two Free. Again, our customers handle this perfectly well.

    This time, though, the company did a Buy One, Get One Free sale - the exact same discount as above, you just don't have to buy as many items. Naturally, this concept was far beyond many customers' abilities.

    Cast of Characters:
    Me:
    SC: customer I've never seen before, too skinny to wear our clothes
    SCD: SC's daughter, age 14-15, busty enough to wear our bras
    MOD: pushover assistant manager

    Me: Hello! Did you find what you were looking for.
    SC: <grunt> *sets single bra on my counter*
    Me: Our bras are Buy One, Get One Free right now. Would you like to get another one?
    SC: <grunt> No.
    SCD: *blank stare*

    Okay. No big deal. First time customers often just want to try our merchandise and don't want to commit to buying multiples, even if they are free. And, of course, monosyllabic responses are always appreciated.

    Me: *completes transaction* Okay, that will be $xx.xx.
    SC: No, it's supposed to be free.
    SCD: *blank stare*

    Now, I wasn't a retail novice when this occurred, but I guess I still possessed some naive idealism because my mental scammer alarm did not immediately go off.

    Me: Oh, did you have a coupon or a customer service voucher?
    SC: No. The sign says we get one free.
    Me: *Heart sinking to my shoes, knowing this isn't going to be an easy one.* Well, yes, the sale is Buy One, Get One Free. You get a second bra free when you buy the first one.
    SC: The sign says Buy One, Get One Free. I'm buying this and it should be free.
    SCD: *blank stare*

    Oh, come on. You're really trying this?

    Me: You have to get two bras total to get the discount, one you pay for and another one you get free. The BOGO sale implies that you will have two items.
    SC: That's not what the sign says.
    Me: Actually, it does. *Grabs a nearby sign.* See? It's in smaller letters but it does say, "Second item of lesser or equal value."
    SC: That's too small. You can barely read it.
    SCD: *blank stare*

    SC has a point. The larger signs have the terms in clear, readable print but on the shelf signs by the bras themselves the terms are hard to read. Nevertheless, since they are spelled out elsewhere there's nothing I can do.

    Foolishly, I try to appeal to reason.

    Me: Ma'am, we cannot just give a bra away for free, especially since you aren't buying anything else. We would go out of business.
    SC: I don't care. I want this bra for free.
    SCD: *blank stare*
    Me: *gives up* Okay, let me get my manager.

    I really didn't want to turn her over to the manager. The MOD was a very nice person and fun to work with but she was notorious for giving in to ridiculous customer demands. I explain the situation and walk away from the registers to straighten some folded sweaters. Since our store is small, I could still hear everything they said.

    MOD: *explains the whole, second item ≤ value thing, we can't just give stuff away, etc.*
    SC: *catbuttface*
    SCD: *blank stare*
    MOD: *tries again*
    SC: *catbuttface*
    SCD: *blank stare*
    MOD: *getting frustrated* Okay, ma'am, I can't just give you a free bra but here's what I'll do: since the signs are hard to read, if you buy this bra, I'll throw in another for free.

    I froze. Not only was MOD standing up to a customer but she was also mocking them by "offering" the deal available to every other customer! Surely SC would go nuts! I inched closer, not wanting to miss a word.

    SC: *bitchface* Fine. We'll take this in black.
    SCD: *blank stare*
    MOD: Okay, I'll be right back. *goes off to find the bra in black*

    Naturally I figured that, like a smart scammer, she knew when to cut her losses. However, as I head up front to great a new customer I hear...

    SC: *to daughter* See, you've got to watch them or they'll cheat you.

  • #2
    another case of sign blindness (OK I will give the small printing but.....) of everything BUT the word FREE. at least the SC showed they did have SOME LIMITED capability of understanding the English language, but not the concepts behind the actual words.
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    • #3
      Not a scammer, just dumb. My store has BOGOs all the time, and its amazing how many people simply cannot grasp the concept.

      I had one in mine last year, we had a promo on our t-shirts, buy ONE, get a second 50% off. So i had a customer who bought a crapload of shirts in one of our other stores, then decided she wanted to exchange one of them for something else.

      Which was fine, except the one she wanted instead was $10 more. And the one she was returning, she had paid full price for. So i do her return, and then exchange, and tell her she owes me $10. She immediately gets pissy, tells me its an EVEN exchange, and yells at me "no, you're doing it WRONG"

      First of all, it was NOT an even exchange, different item, higher price...secondly, the item she was returning she paid FULL price for, so she was not entitled to any discount. And thirdly, had she returned one of the half price tees, i would have had to re-ring hre entire purchase, and make the new, higher price item full price, and one of the other cheaper ones 1/2

      She finally got it, about the 15th time I explained it to her, but really? How hard is the concept of buy ONE get a second at 50 off?

      We also have a promo with our socks; buy three, get one free, but I find i have to phrase it as buy three, get a FOURTH free, as people think they can buy ONLY three, but pay for for two.

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      • #4
        Ehe...bu...wa...uhhh....*whhhiiiirrrrrr......*

        That was my brain shutting-down!
        "If anyone wants this old box containing the broken bits of my former faith in humanity, I'll take your best offer now. You may be able to salvage a few of em' for parts..... " - Quote by Argabarga

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        • #5
          ... and then you get the customers who try to return the one they purchased and keep the one they got for free.
          Quote Dalesys:
          ... as in "Ifn thet dawg comes at me, Ima gonna shutz ma panz!"

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          • #6
            The entire time I was reading the story, I was thinking to myself, "This is an obvious scam. No doubt."

            Then I read the last line. And now I'm not so sure. Your manager rocks though

            Great first post!

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            • #7
              Quoth draggar View Post
              ... and then you get the customers who try to return the one they purchased and keep the one they got for free.
              Actually, that leads to a whole new can of worms. Our registers automatically prorate the discount. (Instead of paying $34 for the first bra and $0 for the second, you pay $17 for each.) Then people get all worked up about the fact that they're paying for the second bra, even though they're saving the same amount.

              That reminds me of a BOGO Free sweater sale we had this past winter. My Kick-Ass Manager (KAM) had a SC who DEMANDED that KAM ring up one sweater full price and one sweater free. KAM had to manually override the system and explained three times that while SC could exchange them if something is wrong, she was not eligible for a refund on either sweater. SC said this was fine but KAM, being kick-ass, wrote a note on the reciept explaining the situation and had SC sign her own receipt, stating that she knows she cannot get a monetary refund on either sweater.

              A week later, who should come up to Fabulous Assistant Manager (FAM) but BOGO SC! Thank goodness I was working both shifts!

              FAM reads her receipt and tells her that we can't refund her sweater. (Yeah, of course she wanted to return the full price item. ) SC gets all huffy and gripes that she's never had this problem with a BOGO sale before and "I shop here all the time." (Oh, please. We have customers who spend $500 each week. We see you maybe five times per year.) Anyway, FAM points out that KAM rang up her sale as SC requested and SC signed off on the unusual terms. SC is totally pissed and gathers her bags to storm out.

              SC: *muttering to herself* Fine, I'll just come back when [Pushover Assistant Manager (PAM)] is working. She'll do it.
              FAM: *sweetly cheerful* I'm sorry, ma'am. PAM is no longer with the company. Have a great day!
              Last edited by emilochka; 03-19-2011, 09:27 PM.

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              • #8
                Part of me wonders if she wasn't scamming you AND trying to pass it off on her kid as NOT being a scam. Double-whammy, there.

                Also, to !

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                • #9
                  Some people just want to feel lke they're getting away with something. Buying one and getting one free like everyone else is no good, but if the manager acts like he's giving them a special deal then they'll go away happy and probably come back.

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                  • #10
                    Sheesh! I wonder how her reaction would be if you had said:

                    "ok M'am. Howabout this.. I will give you THIS bra (hold up the bra and speak loudly, cuz you know it's gonna have to sink through a few layers), that you brought to my counter, for FREE --on the condition that you pick out a bra that costs the same (don't want to say "More expensive", as that won't register to her) and PAY for it. If you won't do that, then I'm taking the next customer.."

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                    • #11
                      Quoth emilochka View Post
                      SCD: *blank stare*.

                      No surprise there.

                      Having that for a (m)other, the poor girl's brain must have BSoD'd years ago!



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                      • #12
                        Bwhaaa....???

                        "I'm buying this, so I should get it for free?"

                        For chrissakes lady, if you're BUYING it you have to PAY for it!
                        When you start at zero, everything's progress.

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                        • #13
                          Until the last line, I wondered if that was a scammer pretending to be dumb, because I refused to believe somebody could actually argue purchase=get free with a straight face.

                          Why did I have to be so damn smart? Why couldn't I be a dumbass like everybody else around by me? That way the stupid wouldn't get to me as much.
                          Knowledge is power. Power corrupts. Study hard. Be evil.

                          "I never said I wasn't a horrible person."--Me, almost daily

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                          • #14
                            Quoth Irving Patrick Freleigh View Post
                            Why did I have to be so damn smart? Why couldn't I be a dumbass like everybody else around by me? That way the stupid wouldn't get to me as much.
                            Maybe it's because you were born with a smart gene.
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                            • #15
                              Quoth DGoddessChardonnay View Post
                              Maybe it's because you were born with a smart gene.
                              S-M-R-T....I am so smart...
                              "For a musician, the SNES sound engine is like using Crayola Crayons. Nobuo Uematsu used Crayola Crayons to paint the Sistine Chapel." - Jeremy Jahns (re: "Dancing Mad")
                              "The difference between an amateur and a master is that the master has failed way more times." - JoCat
                              "Thinking is difficult, therefore let the herd pronounce judgment!" ~ Carl Jung
                              "There's burning bridges, and then there's the lake just to fill it with gasoline." - Wiccy, reddit
                              "Retail is a cruel master, and could very well be the most educational time of many people's lives, in its own twisted way." - me
                              "Love keeps her in the air when she oughta fall down...tell you she's hurtin' 'fore she keens...makes her a home." - Capt. Malcolm Reynolds, "Serenity" (2005)
                              Acts of Gord – Read it, Learn it, Love it!
                              "Our psychic powers only work if the customer has a mind to read." - me

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