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    My company uses an outside collection agency. For many moons, our policy was "we do not deal with collection customers, you are handled by the agency". Then we started rolling the ones who refused to take this line of *cough* BS to our internal collections department. We do make mistakes (shocker!) and sometimes we send customers for erroneous fees or because we don't upload the return of their water coolers, ect. But internal collections has about a million other things to do. So now little old me (and one or two others) happens to be the Credit and Collections department (formerly, they were known as Billing Support Services, so as not to upset the customers, but we're back to upsetting them).

    So this is about the only time that I am allowed to be firm with the customer. Seriously. For the most part, every policy we have is bendable. We need managerial approval but we are up our customer's a**es something fierce. But not on collections calls. We no longer reinstate any customer that has been sent to collections, except for a very few exceptions, mainly if we did it in error. So unless they can give me a reason, I am not doing it. Also, if they want us to remove the charge for their water cooler from their bill (charged because we could not get the cooler back as they were dodging our bills and our delivery people), they must return it to the local office themselves. Return it, or keep getting calls from the collection agency (who is still involved, we are just able to accept their calls and payments...wow, there are a lot of parentheses in here!). If they refuse for reasons of hardship, or if they flat out refuse, we tell them we will request that the local manager pick it up. That's all we can do as we are not required to pick it up and they can cry all they want. Now I don't know about you guys, but it I had gone to collections on a bill and I was trying to clear it up, I would be a little bit meek and mild. I mean, I took water, I drank it, I didn't pay for it. Basically I stole from you. Most people, however, are not. I give you Exhibit A.

    SC: Yeah, you sent me to collections! How could you do that?! I always paid my driver on delivery, but you guys loaded me up with more water than I could ever drink and I am a traveling salesman, I don't have time to look at bills, this is not my fault.
    Me: I see that we did get partial payments but they never covered the full balance. The last payment we received was on November14. After that date, deliveries were stopped due to a past due balance and the account was eventually sent to collections, as your balance was over 120 days past due.
    SC: Um, did you just hear me? I paid on delivery!
    Me: I see that sir, and we did receive payments on each delivery, but they never matched the full balance. For instance, after your $40 payment in November, you still owed $128.00.
    SC: So? I paid! I PAID!
    Me: You paid for some of the water you consumed sir, not all of it. And I understand that you are busy...most of us are busy, but we expect that you will check your invoices. Did you ask your Route driver the balance that was due?
    SC: Yes, but I thought I paid what was owed! I didn't really have time to listen to him. And did you hear me, I am a single man, he gave me way too much water! Three bottles here and four bottles there! More than I could ever drink.
    Me: Sir, when you were meeting with the Route driver, accepting the water and then making your payments...did you ever at any time tell him that he was giving you more water than you could ever drink and you didn't want it?
    SC: silence
    Me: silence
    SC: Oh you're just so smart, aren't you?! You know everything! You're right, I'm wrong!
    Me: I am not trying to say that, sir. I'm just advising you that the money you owe is for a service we provided. We can't take responsibility for the fact that you signed up for the service, accepted the service but felt it was unneccesary.
    SC: What do I owe, anyway?
    Me: $415.11
    SC: What!? How?
    Me: There is a charge of $150 for the water dispenser. You do have the option of returning the dispenser to the local office and that amount will be waived.
    SC: I am not doing that! You dropped it off, you get it!
    Me: I will request that , sir.
    SC: You will not request, you will do it!
    Me: We are not required to pick it up, sir; however, I will explain your position to the local manager and ask that we pick it up.
    SC: I am putting it outside, you better hope it isn't stolen.
    Me: I can't recommend that, sir, as you have already been charged for the equipment and are responsible for it. If it is stolen, you will not have anything to return to us.
    SC: Whatever! Come get it! What else am I being charged for?
    Me: I will request that we pick it up, sir. There is also a $100.00 early termination fee for breaking your one year contract.
    SC: I didn't break it! I didn't cancel it, you did.
    Me: As stated in your contract, sir, you are responsible for paying your invoices in a timely manner. Therefore, you broke the contract by not paying your invoices on time. There is also a collection fee of-
    SC: I am NOT paying that! I didn't send the account to collections.
    Me: By not paying your invoice on time, or responding to notifications of the balance-
    SC: Oh and you were just sitting there, in front of your computer, with the finger on the button to send my account to collections at exactly 120 days weren't you?
    Me: Sir, we do not want to send anyone to collections. Calling us and working out a payment plan is always an option and will stop the collections process. You chose not to do so.
    SC: Well look, I have a mortgage and a car payment and all kinds of bills way more important than yours. You're like my lawn boy, okay? I wasn't worried about it.
    Me: I am sorry, sir; however, we were concerned with receiving payments for the services we rendered to you over four months ago and this why the account is in collections.
    SC: silence, then....FINE! I will pay it-when you pick up this equipment.
    Me: As I said, I will request it. Until the equipment is removed, or returned, and full payment for the balance is received, you will continue to receive notificaitons from the collection agency. You may advise them you are in contact with our company; however, they will not cease until the balance has been paid. Would you like the address of our local office in case you decide to return the equipment?
    SC: click

  • #2
    Hmmm.

    Seems to me you treated him pretty well for being a collection agency.

    You didn't call his family and tell them if they loved him they would help him pay the bill.

    You didn't call his neighbors and tell them to tell him to pay his bill.

    You didn't call back 6 times in a row after being hung up and leave messages of you loudly cracking your gum.

    You didn't tell him you were going to make him sell his house to settle his debt.

    I firmly believe SOME people become collections agents because they can have power over someone and be as nasty as they want to be without any repercussions.

    Please take note of my SOME designation. I do not want any offended messages from anyone on here who may work in collections.
    Dammit !! ~ Jack Bauer

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    • #3
      Quoth ShootMePlease View Post
      Hmmm.

      Seems to me you treated him pretty well for being a collection agency.

      You didn't call his family and tell them if they loved him they would help him pay the bill.

      You didn't call his neighbors and tell them to tell him to pay his bill.

      You didn't call back 6 times in a row after being hung up and leave messages of you loudly cracking your gum.

      You didn't tell him you were going to make him sell his house to settle his debt.

      I firmly believe SOME people become collections agents because they can have power over someone and be as nasty as they want to be without any repercussions.

      Please take note of my SOME designation. I do not want any offended messages from anyone on here who may work in collections.
      I am always polite and respectful. The difference is, I am allowed to tell them it's this way or nothing, unlike regular customer service calls in which I must pretend everything is our fault and they are wonderful even when they're complete twists.

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      • #4
        Quoth AquaGirl View Post
        I am always polite and respectful. The difference is, I am allowed to tell them it's this way or nothing, unlike regular customer service calls in which I must pretend everything is our fault and they are wonderful even when they're complete twists.
        Ouch, regular calls hurt. And I agree with ShootMePlease, you were very nice in your call.

        People will bully you because they can. You aren't calling to give them money, you're calling to take it away and you happen to be a nameless person over the phone. They will lie, yell, take offense, etc. Still, must be nice to have a few shifts where you don't need to kiss customer ass.
        A lion however, will only devour your corpse, whereas an SC is not sated until they have destroyed your soul. (Quote per infinitemonkies)

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        • #5
          I feel sorry for his 'lawn boy.'
          Also, his customers.
          This is why he is single.
          Glad you're enjoying your job!
          "Is it the lie that keeps you sane? Is this the lie that keeps you sane?What is it?Can it be?Ought it to exist?"
          "...and may it be that I cleave to the ugly truth, rather than the beautiful lie..."

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          • #6
            Quoth AquaGirl View Post

            SC: Well look, I have a mortgage and a car payment and all kinds of bills way more important than yours. You're like my lawn boy, okay? I wasn't worried about it.
            Wow, poor lawn boy is getting the shaft, too. I wonder how many times he rendered services before he stopped mowing.

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            • #7
              Why...WHY do people think it's okay to pay for only part of a bill they owe? I mean, you wouldn't ring up a huge grocery bill, then tell the clerk you're only paying part, would you? You wouldn't fill your tank with gas, and only offer to pay for $10 of it. WHY do people think it's okay to do that to companies like yours? You handled it very well. Kudos to you. Karma's revenge to him!
              "And though she be but little, she is FIERCE!"--Shakespeare

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              • #8
                SC: Oh you're just so smart, aren't you?! You know everything! You're right, I'm wrong!
                At least he got something right.
                When you start at zero, everything's progress.

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                • #9
                  Quoth BrenDAnn View Post
                  You wouldn't fill your tank with gas, and only offer to pay for $10 of it.
                  There are some who fill up their gas tanks and pay the full amount, and others who fill up their gas tanks and don't pay a cent.
                  Unseen but seeing
                  oh dear, now they're masquerading as sane-KiaKat
                  There isn't enough interpretive dance in the workplace these days-Irv
                  3rd shift needs love, too
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                  • #10
                    SC: Oh you're just so smart, aren't you?! You know everything! You're right, I'm wrong!
                    finally! one actually managed to figure out the obvious.

                    if there was too much water, it's like aquagirl said, tell the delivery person and it's changed, but dumbass the salesman (what does this fool sell, i wonder?) couldn't figure that out, along with billing and balances. it's a wonder he can pay anything correctly at all, if he ever does.

                    lawn boy? at least the lawn boy and water people know what they're doing, bud.
                    look! it's ghengis khan!
                    Sorry, but while I can do many things, extracting heads from anuses isn't one of them. (so sayeth the irv)

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                    • #11
                      I really worry a lot about the clients of some of the people that I collect from. Realtors who can't read real estate documents, lawyers who don't understand lien laws, teachers who can't figure out how to add 18% interest...

                      Really, I want to help them set up a payment plan, work out a program to help with other bills, etc. But they just prove time and time again that they pay the "most urgent" bill first... So, if they ignore my notices they can go to collections and complain how unfair the fees are when they pay them.

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                      • #12
                        Quoth BrenDAnn View Post
                        I mean, you wouldn't ring up a huge grocery bill, then tell the clerk you're only paying part, would you?
                        With how many customers have asked me if I have change... yes, yes they would.
                        "I call murder on that!"

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                        • #13
                          Quoth chainedbarista View Post
                          if there was too much water, it's like aquagirl said, tell the delivery person and it's changed
                          This actually confused me. Every time I have set up a water delivery account for my company I would tell them how many bottles we wanted on hand. The driver would only replace empty bottles, not add anything over and above what we wanted on hand.

                          Maybe home delivery is different? (Sorry aquagirl, I bought my own cooler and pick up 5 gallon jugs at the local discount store as needed).
                          You'll find a slight squeeze on the hooter an excellent safety precaution, Miss Scrumptious.

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                          • #14
                            Quoth Caractacus_Potts View Post
                            This actually confused me. Every time I have set up a water delivery account for my company I would tell them how many bottles we wanted on hand. The driver would only replace empty bottles, not add anything over and above what we wanted on hand.

                            Maybe home delivery is different? (Sorry aquagirl, I bought my own cooler and pick up 5 gallon jugs at the local discount store as needed).
                            Lots of customers do this. We refer to it as "replace empties only." And this may be what happened, but some customers wind up with more than they need since they typically get 4 free bottles on their first delivery. If he kept taking then and never said it was too much we can't help it. And I am not offended, I have a Pur water faucet:-)
                            Last edited by AquaGirl; 05-11-2011, 12:47 AM.

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                            • #15
                              Similar system with LPG almost anywhere. You buy a canister up-front, then later on you exchange the empty canister for a full one. (That's for the sizes above "fits in your camping stove", anyway.)

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