What Part Of "It's Illegal" Do You Not Understand?

[Stressball]

So its an untrue rumor you can loan at casino's?

TBH Casino's seem to be a rule unto themselves here, as jetfire said. For example: In Queensland, the legal limit for number of poker machines any one venue may have installed at one time, is 280 machines. This is supposedly a statewide, unbreakable rule. Yet, the casinos have hundred upon hundreds, even thousands of machines.

I wouldn't know what they do about loaning money, but the law governing the loaning of money for the purpose of gambling is not part of the gaming legislation I don't think, it's actually part of a different part of legislation with the Office of Liquor, Gaming and Racing cannot get around.

[Jester]

Personally, I never knew or heard about any restrictions on buying lottery tickets with credit cards, but they may well exist here in Florida and/or back home in Arizona. I never heard about them if they do exist for the very simple reason that I am not a degenerate gambler, and when I do buy lottery tickets, I pay cash for the ONE $1 ticket I'll buy from time to time. The most money I've ever spent on lottery tickets at a single time was $5.

I totally understand this law but - how is it any different to gambling with money from an overdraft?

If it makes sense, it is not allowed.

In other words, stop trying to make sense of laws that don't make sense.

[BrenDAnn]

In other words, stop trying to make sense of laws that don't make sense.

This! A thousand times this! SCs only understand their own "logic". Unfortunate but true.

[jnd4rusty]

Here in my city and I am sure across the state also, they sell lottery tickets via vending machines. Pretty slick! The catch...you do not get change back...so if you put a $20.00 bill into the machine then you must buy twenty dollars worth of tickets. How much do you want to wager that customers did not read the signs on the machine about that one and complained about not getting their money back!! I believe a lot of people complained because when I first saw the machines I noticed the signs were quite small and now they are HUGE and plastered all over the machines!

[Gizmo]

Our local stores are inconsistant about this subject.

One wouldn't let me even use a debit card to buy our lotto ticket. Another will let me put it on a credit card.

[BrenDAnn]

jnd4rusty -- We have those machines around here too. I always make sure that on the rare occasion I use one I have the exact amount I want to buy.

Gizmo-- That is the reason us that do it the right way have such headaches with people! Of course, there are some stores running cards on an old fashioned machine that will read a VISA/Mastercard debit as a credit (or, non-PIN debit) so that may be why you couldn't use a debit. I have come across that. Otherwise, I have no idea wtf is going on there!

[Caractacus_Potts]

I was getting a propane tank filled the other day when another customer came up with a tank they needed filled.

Employee: (looks at tank) I'm sorry sir, this tank is over 12 years old this year and I can't fill it unless it is re-certified.
SC: What! Why?
Employee: (points to giant sign) I'm sorry, it's the law (relevant points on the sign being "NH DOT" and "It is illegal to fill a tank more than 12 years old without tank re-certification").
SC: Well...I got this tank filled here in January so I know you can fill it.
Employee: I'm sorry sir. I don't know who filled your tank in January. I only know that it is illegal for me to fill this tank and I will not do it.

The guy was clearly mad but he did leave (to try another filling place no doubt). The whole "someone did something illegal for me in the past so it is now OK for you to do something illegal for me now" argument entirely baffles me.

[Jester]

"Someone else did it before" is a classic and much overused line. I especially like it when it's used to try to purchase alcohol without ID. Yeah, good luck with that one, buddy.

I am disinclined to acquiesce to your bullshit. Means no.

[MadMike]

"Someone else did it before" is a classic and much overused line.

It was probably done at that wonderful, magical place called "Everywhere Else."

[EricKei]

"Someone else did it before" is a classic and much overused line.

It's right up there with "I know the boss/owner, he said it's OK" -- at which point I will stop, ask SC for boss/owner's name, and ask SC for the phone number so I can verify it. If they're telling the truth, there's no good reason for them to lack that info.

[wolfie]

I was getting a propane tank filled the other day when another customer came up with a tank they needed filled.

Employee: (looks at tank) I'm sorry sir, this tank is over 12 years old this year and I can't fill it unless it is re-certified.
SC: What! Why?
Employee: (points to giant sign) I'm sorry, it's the law (relevant points on the sign being "NH DOT" and "It is illegal to fill a tank more than 12 years old without tank re-certification").
SC: Well...I got this tank filled here in January so I know you can fill it.
Employee: I'm sorry sir. I don't know who filled your tank in January. I only know that it is illegal for me to fill this tank and I will not do it.

The guy was clearly mad but he did leave (to try another filling place no doubt). The whole "someone did something illegal for me in the past so it is now OK for you to do something illegal for me now" argument entirely baffles me.

Why couldn't he have simply gone the "shady" route by, before the tank became outdated, taking it to one of the tank exchange places instead of a place that refills the customer's own tank? These places are becoming more common (about the only kind of barbecue tank place around here) because people selling pre-filled tanks don't need the same certification that people re-filling tanks need. If he'd done that, he'd have wound up with a tank that still had a few years to go, and could get it refilled until he needed to do an exchange again.

[Mytical]

Remember Wolfie..if it is logical it is not allowed.

[PepperElf]

I had a cashier explain it to me once when I asked why credit cards (or debit) weren't allowed.


She said that it was illegal because some people would buy lottery tickets, hoping for a win, and then would refuse to pay the bill if they lost.

Either that or it's an attempt to stop people from going into psychotic debt from running up lots and lots of losing lottery tickets...?

[Estil]

Background: In Iowa, it is ILLEGAL to sell lotto/lottery tickets on credit cards. Dunno why. Just is.

Very simple. So there isn't a bunch of idiots running up big credit card debts (and cold checks) over the lottery, or as Dave Ramsey calls it, the "poor man's tax".

[Caractacus_Potts]

Why couldn't he have simply gone the "shady" route by, before the tank became outdated, taking it to one of the tank exchange places instead of a place that refills the customer's own tank?

In this state the places that exchange tanks will only accept tanks with the brand/mark of the company that does the refills (for example, if you go to a Blue Rhino exchange they will only take back empty tanks with the Blue Rhino label).