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    The defendant was representing herself. She was charged with shoplifting at a supermarket. The total cost of the items she stole was just low enough that this was a Class "C" misdemeanor, the lowest of the crime levels in this state. She had been observed stuffing the items into her pockets and was detained as she tried to walk out the door.

    Should have been an open and shut case, right?

    Nope. She demanded a trial. A jury trial. She objected to everyone from the store who testified as to what they witnessed - especially loss prevention who had watched her via closed circuit security camera the entire time she was in the store. All objections were overruled because they all hinged on her one defense.

    What was her defense? That oldy but goody, the race card. Ya see, she is of a certain ethnicity while the staff at that moment happened to be all of another ethnic heritage. That meant she was being racially profiled and watched while all the other customers who were stealing too (yes, she said it that way) were being ignored because they shared the same heritage as the staff. She actually testified that if she had not been so heavily watched, she would not have been caught. I thought the prosecutor was going to need help getting his lower jaw off the rug when she said that.

    The jury's guilty verdict almost took ten minutes to come back - mostly due to the fact that the foreman had to find the line in the six pages of instructions where the verdict was to be noted.
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    I could almost see the discussion on that verdict.

    Judge: So it took you ten minutes to reach the verdict?
    Lead Juror: No your honor, it took that long to go through the information for how to present it properly.
    Judge: So ho long did it take?
    LJ: We're not sure, no one had a stopwatch.
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    • #3
      What I love is how she essentially pled guilty even though she was disputing the charge... She said "I wouldn't have been CAUGHT". So she admitted to shoplifting and she thinks a jury is going to let her off just because she's ethnicity A and the staff is something else?? Nice try, lady!

      She should be fined extra for wasting the court's time!

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      • #4
        Quoth Moon View Post
        She should be fined extra for wasting the court's time!
        Oh, she will be! She will "get" to pay court costs!
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        • #5
          Quoth Moon View Post
          What I love is how she essentially pled guilty even though she was disputing the charge... She said "I wouldn't have been CAUGHT". So she admitted to shoplifting and she thinks a jury is going to let her off just because she's ethnicity A and the staff is something else?? Nice try, lady!
          There are plenty of people who would've let her off on that defense. She just happened not get any of them, fortunately.
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          • #6
            Quoth lordlundar View Post
            Judge: So it took you ten minutes to reach the verdict?
            Lead Juror: No your honor, it took that long for us all to stop laughing.
            Or that's what I'd have said.....
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            • #7
              She was essentially caught red handed, was video taped while in the process of that crime & she had the nerve to waste the court's time by playing the race card as her defense?
              You know as soon as the jury was handed the case they had a verdict. 30 seconds for the verdict & 9 & a half minutes to laugh their asses off...LOL!

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              • #8
                Lovely. I'm continually amazed at the number of people who stuff things in their pockets or purses or wherever....apparently completely unaware that damn near every store has cameras!

                I guess they must figure that if they get caught, they'll try some lame defense like this woman did.
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                • #9
                  Quoth Moon View Post
                  What I love is how she essentially pled guilty even though she was disputing the charge... She said "I wouldn't have been CAUGHT". So she admitted to shoplifting and she thinks a jury is going to let her off just because she's ethnicity A and the staff is something else?? Nice try, lady!

                  She should be fined extra for wasting the court's time!
                  Definitely. It always annoys the heck out of me when people try to pull the race card when they were actually doing something. As a person who is mixed and depending on how much sun I've gotten I can tell you that the simplest way to deal with your 'ethnic profiling' problem is to stop committing crimes!
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                  • #10
                    Quoth Moon View Post
                    So she admitted to shoplifting and she thinks a jury is going to let her off just because she's ethnicity A and the staff is something else??
                    During jury selection, she tried to get every potential juror struck who did not share her ethnic heritage because they "would not understand what her people have gone through". That did not work either, but she did make her thinking and defense very well known before the trial began.

                    Two on the six who ended up on the jury happened to be of her race. The verdict still was "guilty".
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                    • #11
                      Can't wait to hear what the sentence will be.

                      I'll bet the judge makes it stiff given the time and money she wasted on a jury trail only to confess to the crime as part of her "defense."
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                      • #12
                        Quoth Panacea View Post
                        I'll bet the judge makes it stiff given the time and money she wasted on a jury trail
                        There are judges who add penalties like that to defendants who exercise their rights.

                        They generally get reversed on appeal.

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                        • #13
                          You know, I actually had some kids who gave me a very close approximation of this argument. Um, no, it turns out you're just a REALLY bad shoplifter!
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                          • #14
                            The fact your [race] has nothing to do with it, the fact you kept looking over your shoulder, trying to figure out where employees were is what tipped us to the fact your probably up to something. Anyone who pays that much attention to me, makes me believe they are in fact doing something that shouldn't be doing.
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                            • #15
                              Quoth Panacea View Post

                              I'll bet the judge makes it stiff given the time and money she wasted on a jury trail only to confess to the crime as part of her "defense."
                              Yeah. Stupid defendant, thinking she has a right to a jury trial and stuff.
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