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  • #1

    Magic video camera...

    I would also say 'bonus story' but the second part was no bonus.

    Back ground - For those who do not know, I am currently working temporarily for an old boss. He hired me to take the place of his normal manager while they are on vacation.

    He runs a security firm, which also includes putting in cameras.

    Customer wants a hidden camera installed..shouldn't be a problem..right?

    SC - We know this one by now
    CW - One of the people I am currently supervising
    Me -

    CW - Hey Mytical, SC wants a camera in this wall.
    Me - Ok, I'll add it to the bill, where does CW2 think we should put the hole (CW2 is outside, but we have radios, and he is better at figuring out where things should go)
    CW - SC doesn't want a hole in the wall
    Me - So..he wants it wall mounted? I guess we can put up one of those dome mirrors, might look odd though..
    CW - No..he wants it IN the wall.
    Me - *BSoD* And..how exactly are we supposed to get it in the wall without doing that? Does he mean on the other side of the wall???
    CW - No, he wants it IN the wall, but no holes.
    Me - Ok..I'm going to have to talk to him.

    I find SC

    Me - I understand you want a hidden camera in the wall.
    SC - Yeah, CW said that you would need to put a hole in the wall, but I do not want any holes.
    Me - *BSoD yet again* Well, what we can do..is hire a contractor to replace the wall, and build it around a camera..but that wouldn't help any..without a way to see out, even a tiny hole would do..it would just have a picture of the inner wall..
    SC - I want a camera in that wall, and no we are not paying for a whole new wall. No holes in the wall either, make it happen.
    Me - That is a solid object, how exactly do you propose we put something IN the wall without either opening it up or building a new one around it?
    SC - I don't care. Just get it done.

    I call the owner, and let him try to figure this one out.


    Second part. Owner had me do my first firing today, it was not fun.
    Engaged to the amazing Marmalady. She is my Silver Dragon, shining as bright as the sun. I her Black Dragon (though good honestly), dark as night..fierce and strong.
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    Oh, please let us know what the owner comes up with.

    ^-.-^
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    • #3
      I can't stop giggling. What is wrong with that guy? Actually, I think you should do just what he asks. Put a camera in the wall and cover the hole. See? No hole now. He didn't say it had to see anything!
      "Is it hot in here to you? It's very warm, isn't it?"--Nero, probably

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      • #4
        Or, alternatively, replace a portion of the wall with glass, with the camera behind it. No hole, camera can see out, win-win.
        Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read. -Groucho Marx

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        • #5
          Quoth Syriilord View Post
          Or, alternatively, replace a portion of the wall with glass, with the camera behind it. No hole, camera can see out, win-win.

          There goes the hidden camera part though XD

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          • #6
            Quoth FiddleFaddle View Post
            There goes the hidden camera part though XD
            obscured, one-way glass?

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            • #7
              Quoth Mytical View Post
              I call the owner, and let him try to figure this one out.
              Well, speaking as the son of a carpenter, I know of a way to do it, though it's a lot of work. Open the wall from above or below (basement or attic access helps) and lower a camera down into the wall. Wire everything normally, maybe include a camera light so the inside of the wall is illuminated (otherwise the screen connected to that camera would be black). Keep track of where exactly the camera is in the wall, so when the customer starts screaming about the camera not working, it's a quick & easy fix to make the camera functional.

              Alternately, make a drywall box, and put it on the customer's head, and ask him how much he can see of the room through it. Then point out that the camera will be able to see exactly the same thing if there's no hole in the wall.
              Last edited by Difdi; 07-15-2011, 03:16 PM.

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              • #8
                Quoth Difdi View Post
                Alternately, make a drywall box, and put it on the customer's head, and ask him how much he can see of the room through it. Then point out that the camera will be able to see exactly the same thing if there's no hole in the wall.
                If you do this, make sure to leave out the air holes. That way...the customer will get the same feeling as I do when I read about him. Seriously, my mind is blue-screening over here
                Aerodynamics are for people who can't build engines. --Enzo Ferrari

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                • #9
                  Quoth Syriilord View Post
                  Or, alternatively, replace a portion of the wall with glass, with the camera behind it. No hole, camera can see out, win-win.
                  We thought of that, but he doesn't want a hole cut at all (in any way)..even if covered up.

                  As for the ceiling or floor, my boss suggested that (never occurred to me to be honest)..but the problem with it seeing anything remains. So we can get the camera into the wall, but it would just see the inside of the wall and that is all. So a compromise was reached. We are putting it in a vent. It is a mini camera, so it won't be able to be noticed unless somebody looks REALLY close.
                  Last edited by Mytical; 07-15-2011, 07:15 PM.
                  Engaged to the amazing Marmalady. She is my Silver Dragon, shining as bright as the sun. I her Black Dragon (though good honestly), dark as night..fierce and strong.

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                  • #10
                    Glad you found a solution and saved at least a few brain cells.
                    "Is it hot in here to you? It's very warm, isn't it?"--Nero, probably

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                    • #11
                      Quoth Mytical View Post
                      Second part. Owner had me do my first firing today, it was not fun.
                      How did you get so unlucky?
                      Labor boards have info on local laws for free
                      HR believes the first person in the door
                      Learn how to go over whackamole bosses' heads safely
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                      • #12
                        Well I was temping for the manager he normally has, and the guy I had to fire chose to do his 3rd no call no show. Normally it is 2 no call, no shows and they are out..but he had a sob story and the owner felt sorry for him so didn't fire him the last time. Since I was the one in charge at the time, I got to be the lucky one to tell him to pack up his junk and not bother coming back.
                        Engaged to the amazing Marmalady. She is my Silver Dragon, shining as bright as the sun. I her Black Dragon (though good honestly), dark as night..fierce and strong.

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                        • #13
                          Quoth scruff View Post
                          obscured, one-way glass?
                          That could work, but the sudden appearance of that is usually a dead giveaway.
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                          • #14
                            It may work, but only at the quantum level. Anyone got a camera that small?

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                            • #15
                              How unrealistic could that creature get?
                              Customers should always be served . . . to the nearest great white.

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