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  • What is your definition of "idiot"?

    Since my job considers those in our care to be "consumers" I guess I can post this here? I debated posting any stories at all, but I am under a fake name here, I won't mention the facility, and I will use the gender hiding pronouns of "they" and "them" rather than "he" or "she".

    One evening, during showers, we had a particular youth who entered the bathroom area, shut the door, turned on the shower, for like MAYBE a minute, and then come out of the bathroom one more minute later, stating they were done showering. This particular individual has issues with hygiene, so we ordered them back in the shower to which an attempt at a power struggle ensued. We do our best to avoid getting into these struggles because when you are dealing with adolescents, you won't win.

    Workers (W): those giving the direction
    Youth (Y): well, the one not following directions

    W: I understand that you may have turned the water on, however, there is no way you could have properly washed yourself in the time the water was running or completed brushing your teeth and hair in the minute afterward. You haven't even changed your clothes.

    Y: I SHOWERED! I'm clean! I'm not getting back in there!

    This type of exchange lasted about 5 or so minutes. In the meantime, it was also discovered that the clothes this youth meant to change into were also dirty. So, we had to find clean clothes as well as having them shower again.

    Finally, youth gets angry enough and accepts the decision to re-shower.

    The water runs for quite some time and stops. They then refuse to come out of the bathroom after a certain amount of time. So, with the nurse there, staff opens the door to discover this kid had showered with their clothes ON!!! It appeared that they were so angry we asked them to shower again, they thought they'd show us and jump in fully clothed.

    So, we segregate the youth away from the unit and the rest of the kids. During this time, I am standing there giving expectations that this youth is to follow before moving on to the next activity.

    Me: You will go in the bathroom. You will shut the door. You will undress. You will enter the shower area. You will turn on the shower, you will get in the shower, you will wash, you will rinse, and you will get out and dry yourself and then put on clean clothes.

    I repeated this many times with emphasis on "you will undress" before "you will enter the shower area".

    This kid was getting pissed. Finally, after one of my "You will undress" they yelled,
    "I KNOW!!! I'M NOT AN IDIOT!!!"

    My response: YOU JUST SHOWERED WITH YOUR CLOTHES ON!!

    This kid actually stopped, paused, and said, "Well, yeah, you have a point there."

    You think?
    "I'm still walking, so I'm sure that I can dance!" from Saint of Circumstance - Grateful Dead

  • #2
    It looks like there is some hope for them yet.
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    • #3
      What exactly was the kid trying to prove there? The mind boggles.
      I don't have an attitude problem. You have a perception problem.
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      • #4
        ... Go upstairs.
        Take off all your clothes.
        Get into the shower.
        Please turn on the water. (You have to tell them to do that, because if you don't, they'll just wander around the tub, and then get out and get into bed.)
        Please use soap. (That's mostly for my son.)
        Rinse yourselves off.
        Dry yourselves off.
        Put on clean pajamas.
        Get into the bed and GO to SLEEP!

        (Now, if, these brain-damaged children would do that, there would be no beatings!)

        [/Cosby - Same Thing Happens Every Night]
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        • #5
          Quoth XCashier View Post
          What exactly was the kid trying to prove there? The mind boggles.
          Like Napoleon Dynamite that he has nothing to prove?
          I'm trying to see things from your point of view, but I can't get my head that far up my keister!

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          • #6
            Quoth dalesys View Post
            ...
            (Now, if, these brain-damaged children would do that, there would be no beatings!)

            [/Cosby - Same Thing Happens Every Night]


            You poor man, thank you for your kindness and attitude about this whole situation. But you do not understand, they cannot sleep through the night unless theyve had a good beating.

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            • #7
              Quoth friendofjimmyk View Post
              "Well, yeah, you have a point there."
              I think that's proof that there's hope for him.

              Your stories are absolutely welcome here, there's even a forum called Sickbay specifically for stories about patients.
              Last edited by Flying Grype; 11-14-2011, 10:51 PM.

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              • #8
                I noticed that. That must be new as I don't recall that being here last time I checked in.

                And kudos on the Cosby references! I had completely forgotten about that bit!

                I always say if these kids put half the effort they put into being bad into being good, my facility may not need to exist.
                "I'm still walking, so I'm sure that I can dance!" from Saint of Circumstance - Grateful Dead

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                • #9
                  Quoth friendofjimmyk View Post
                  And kudos on the Cosby references! I had completely forgotten about that bit!
                  Was your head with you *ALL* day?

                  My torchstone for the competence of any psych worker is how much Cos they have in their office.

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                  I am not an a**hole. I am a hemorrhoid. I irritate a**holes!
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                  • #10
                    For some reason this reminds me of myself and the bf fighting. It's usually why I win the arguments.

                    Well, that and in most arguments he takes over my side of the argument and just sits there and argues with himself until (usually) my side wins. :P

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                    • #11
                      Quoth SavageChihuahua View Post
                      Well, that and in most arguments he takes over my side of the argument and just sits there and argues with himself until (usually) my side wins. :P
                      And another—In a family argument, if it turns out you are right—apologize at once!
                      [/L. Long]
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                      Derails threads faster than a pocket nuke.

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                      • #12
                        Now, I'm gonna have to get that bit off youtube!
                        "I'm still walking, so I'm sure that I can dance!" from Saint of Circumstance - Grateful Dead

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