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  • You need the money so you will do what I want!

    A little backstory of the last few days... My husband gets paid every two weeks and when I cash his check I take out the money for the groceries and gas money for me to use to the next two weeks. That way I can see what is left in the account, and pay bills that can be paid and the rest can be used for stuff around the house or the kids. Yeah, we are poor and live check to check but it works out. Anyway, I went to the grocery store after depositing the check and getting the cash. Even though I always ask before shopping of course all 3 kids decide they need to go to the bathroom when the buggy is half full I got kind of frustrated because I usually let my oldest go in the stall himself of course, and take the 3 and 4 year old in the handicapped stall so there is room. And this time there is someone in the handicapped stall, sounds like a teenager talking on her phone, ew. With little ones with small bladders I am not gonna wait on her to finish her conversation so she can wipe and get out so I take them in the small stall. I help both of them and leave. And also leave my purse. The purse hanger was not on the door, it was on the side wall where the door opens in so if you open the door it covers it and I guess just trying to get them out of there without them touching everything and then opening the door like that I somehow walked out without it. And didn't realize it until I got up there to pay and of course when I went back in there it was gone My purse is so small anyone could have just stuffed it in there own purse and walked out with it right next to me. I have called the last few days and it is gone, no one turned it in, no one has said anything about it. So now we are screwed because I was in a rush to finish up the shopping and get home and ended up leaving with nothing.


    OK if you read that long story you deserve a cookie so far To try and make up for the loss of money and get money to survive until the 16th when he gets paid again I am running a sale on my page. I finally had someone ask about an order and my heart sank when I saw who it was because I have always had problems out of her but not bad enough to turn her away. She starts off wanting to know if she ordered this certain design with this certain material if she can still get the sale price. I told her even though the design she wanted cost me a little more to make that sure she could have it at that price. I tried to explain the situation a little hoping she would not give me the same problems but I think I made it worse. Now she wants a more expensive dress at the same low sale price and she wants me to throw in an extra hairbow, panty cover, socks, an extra gross of stones so she can have them "just in case" (a gross is 144 stones by the way) and give her a casual wear for almost free. I was like, I can't do all that because I will be losing money and I am having a sale because I need money really bad right now. She told me that I had to do what she wanted because I was desperate and she was probably the only one that would order from me being this close to Christmas. And honestly she is probably right since she is the only one that has messaged me about an order so far I don't want to give her the satisfaction of me giving in but I do need the money, although after her demands it won't be enough profit to make it worth it. I told her I would let her know tonight and I am hoping maybe since I just posted yesterday maybe not many people have seen it or something. After this though I think she will be banned. She is very demanding and always wants free stuff with her order and it drives me crazy.

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    Sorry to hear about that . It's too bad some people are just asshats and would steal your purse, and the SC now knows that you really need the money and is trying screw you over. I hate people who take advantage of others.

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    • #3
      Wow... *snuggles*

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      • #4
        While you do need money -- and i know that feeling, I'm on a check-to-check lifestyle, myself -- the simple fact is, she's trying to screw you over royally. She deserves the same sale as what everyone else gets; if you give in, she can and will do it over and over again. She's the worst kind of SC -- an intentional one. As hard as it is, you DO need profit to survive.

        Maybe consider spreading word amongst friends and your current client list to see if you get any bites on your sale page? Maybe they would be willing to link your page in other forums? Just describe it as a XMAS Blowout sale/End-of-Year sale.
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        • #5
          She's taking advantage of you - or trying to - and even more so knowing why you need the money??!! Honestly is this worth the (loss of?) money? Not to mention the stress she's putting you under
          Wish I could help (in a more practical way) :'(
          Ne auderis delere orbem rigidum meum! - Don't you dare erase my hard disk!

          This is Tech Support, not Customer Service.
          What's the difference?
          We're allowed to tell you "no".

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          • #6
            Dont give in. No point in costing yourself more money in the long term.

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            • #7
              If it costs money in the long term, don't do it. Far better to get a small loan from a friend if possible then lose money just to get some cash now. (Not to mention all the stress and bad feelings from it.)

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              • #8
                well... the REVERSE is also true:

                Where else can SHE go to get the product that she wants this close to Christmas.

                Believe me... if you cave in and accept the deal it will only get worse. She will nit pick everything and be a royal P.I.T.A. through the whole thing. Then at the end she will do a chargeback.

                I run a business that does custom work for people and I find that if you charge MORE the customers have a perception of value and eliteness. When YOU don't value your work enough to stand up for yourself and charge a premium for a one-off custom job then whay should the customer value it?

                No matter how good your work is when you deliver it the customer will still have the perception that it is cheap because they didn't pay much. They never think "Wow! I got a great deal!" They think: "If she is willing to sell it for nothing, then she is probably willing to sell it for HALF of nothing too!"

                You could rebuff her with some useful phrases from the Ettiquette Hell forum:

                "Why would I want to do that!?"
                "I'm afraid that won't be possible."
                "No" <-- followed by crickets chirping.

                PS... Go back and talk to the loss prevention manager in the store. They will have video showing who came and went from the bathroom. Go find a couple local churches and/or food banks to get you over the hump. They love helping people in this situation... people in a bind, not freeloaders.
                Last edited by jiarby; 12-08-2011, 08:09 PM.

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                • #9
                  I'm sorry, I read your threads a lot. I know you're trying to become a name in the pageantwear business, but in this case, with THIS woman, you shouldn't give in and THEN ban her. If it were me, I'd send a reply email with the following:

                  "After careful consideration, I am going to refuse your order. You're correct. I need the money. Your order will only serve to cost me more money, which I cannot afford in the tight situation I am in. In the future, I will not bend over backwards for you as I have in the past. I sew pageantwear to make money, and you have always cost me money. Good luck with finding what you are searching for this close to Christmas!"

                  Yes, I'm throwing her own words back in her face, but if you're in this tight of a spot, then no, you should NOT take her order. She's going to cost you money in the long run. Do what is right for you, and if she tries to badmouth you in the business, then keep every scrap of communication with her, and point out how she tried to hold your dire circumstances over your head to try and get more shit for free.

                  People like that really piss me, off. sorry.

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                  • #10
                    DO NOT give into her. Lupo's wording is a lot nicer than I would use. And Everyone is correct. She is a dirtbag and not worth the effort. After replying to her, ban her immediately

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                    • #11
                      Get ahold of my sister, let her know the situation, I believe she has some fundraisers coming up that the foundation could use some of your work for? don't quote me on that, it's not concrete in my head

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                      • #12
                        I second Lupo's wording. It's pwnage perfect.

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                        • #13
                          Yes, you're trying to become a name in the business; but you're trying to become a name among good clients. This is not a good client.

                          Yes, you might (might!) make a small profit from this particular sale: but at upfront costs you can't afford right now.

                          No, I wouldn't take the job.
                          Seshat's self-help guide:
                          1. Would you rather be right, or get the result you want?
                          2. If you're consistently getting results you don't want, change what you do.
                          3. Deal with the situation you have now, however it occurred.
                          4. Accept the consequences of your decisions.

                          "All I want is a pretty girl, a decent meal, and the right to shoot lightning at fools." - Anders, Dragon Age.

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                          • #14
                            What they all said ^^ (and Seshat summarized so beautifully)

                            I would rather have a garage sale and sell my own possessions than give into this woman. She's not just being cheap (wanting stuff for free that she's not entitled to) she's being a bitch for trying to profit from your misfortune.
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                            • #15
                              Thanks everyone I was still debating and came on here to see if anyone might have made it all the way through that post and replied, lol. I think I will go with the majority then and tell her no. That if she wants it she can pay the same as everyone else without the extras. If it would have been something already made then I might have went ahead and done it with not a thought since even thought I had already spent money to make it it was not doing any good sitting here. But with a custom order I have to use part of the money I am paid for supplies and shipping and in the end it would not have been worth it. I was almost considering telling her ok but it would be a wait time of 4 weeks, to give me time to buy the materials when my husband got paid but use her money she paid right now and use it all. But then when I thought about it I would be in the same situation as now since I would be taking money out of his check for her stuff. So I am going to go ahead and tell her no and steal Lupos words to give her, then present her with a beautiful ban

                              I will send an email to your sister Redbeard and see if I can do anything for her. I am going to go to the two local foodbanks tomorrow and see if I can get anything done. I was thinking about that today and wasn't sure if they would be able to help since they are helping so many families for Christmas but it won't hurt to call

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