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    I can't be 100% sure this guy isn't using the money for drugs, but his behavior is pretty suspicious.

    Having been a social worker before becoming a Pawn Broker, I've seen a lot and I've learned that people will do some crazy things. The majority of the money made by the store I work at comes from buying gold from the general public and selling it to a refinery for profit. I buy from all walks of life and anything from wedding sets to gold teeth. Some people just want to sell their broken jewelry and some are selling to pay bills. No matter the story, I give a very fair price and I'll negotiate (that is a lot of fun). At the end of the day, I really like my job.

    The first time I meet this man, he comes in with his wife. They are trying to sell a pair of diamond cluster earrings. The marking being what it is, diamonds are not re-selling very well. He strikes me as a bit strange and is slurring his speech just a little bit, but I still make the buy.

    Two days go by and they come in again with a child. He hands me a bag of jewelery which is all women's jewelery. He tells me he needs to "get Christmas for my kid". This time, he's obviously impaired. At this point, I can't say he's on drugs, for all I know it could be prescription for an illness. I give him a good deal and, if he does use the money for the child's Christmas, it would be a good haul.

    He comes in later that day and his attitude is completely different. He's pacing the floor and clearly agitated. He brings me a single earring. The stone is obviously plastic and something you might find at a dollar store. He tries to tell me that he paid $1,000 at the mall for the pair. I tell him I'm not interested and he gives me a sob story about his power being turned off and he has a young kid. He says "You've gatta help me out! Anything, $20, $50. I know you can re-sell it". I tell him I'm not interested and he leaves the store angry and hops into a car waiting outside.

    The next day both he and his wife come in to sell more jewelery. They're both acting strange, but no child this time. At this point, they've sold a good bit of items to me in a short span. This lot was odd because there were grandmother pendants and they weren't old enough to be grandparents. I'm growing suspicious and I want nothing more to do with this. Buying stolen goods is a good way to loose money and anything I can do to avoid this puts more money in my pocket at the end of the year. Normally, I don't question it because it might be inherited, but this makes the 3rd day in a row. I casually ask where they got the grandmother pendant and she says "I'm selling it for my friend's grandmother". That is enough for me to back away. I tell them that that friend would have to come in because I'm not legally allowed to make this purchase. He interrupts "Oh come on, they gonna give me half so I can buy food for my little girl. We haven't eaten in 2 days". She offers to get this friend on the phone, but I just want to decline the sale. I tell him about some assistance programs I know of; however, he stated that he's the "wrong color". Having the background I have I know that a) skin color means nothing and b) most of the emergency food assistance are run by the churches and they use the honor system.

    Maybe they are having a hard time, but they're going about it the wrong way. This store is for-profit and I can't go out giving people more money because they bring their kids into it. People lie all the time and I'd be out of a job if I fell for every single story. In this case, I'm protecting my job by refusing it. If there is a reasonable doubt that you're dealing in stolen merchandise, that's when you back away from the deal. We're required to hold everything for 7 days and input every item into a database that law enforcement can monitor. If it gets reported stolen, they can come and seize the items and the store loses that money.
    Last edited by bubblelittlepally; 12-12-2011, 04:13 AM.

  • #2
    Good for you for trusting your instincts!!!!

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    • #3
      Yes. I agree with you. I've been frequently on the opposite side of the pawn table, especially since I've been out of work. But in my case, neither liquor or drugs has anything to do with it.

      Good on you for trusting your instincts.
      Customers should always be served . . . to the nearest great white.

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      • #4
        Offer them a couple of sammiches.
        That'll prove if they've really gone two days without food.


        if they're scammers (like i also suspect) they'll get offended that you didn't give them money and look at you like you tried to piss on them.

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        • #5
          I felt like such an idiot, but when our hours were cut a couple of months ago and I wasn't getting a damn callback from anywhere I applied part-time to (granted, I only applied to like 3 places), as a last resort I went to Pawn America and sold all but one item of jewelery that my ex bf gave me. It doesn't mean anything to me anymore, and I really, really needed the cash, even if it was just $50 extra for gas or groceries.

          I think the dude at the shop understood, since I still had my frock on and my hair and face were a disaster from my 12 hour shift I'd just worked.
          You really need to see a neurologist. - Wagegoth

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          • #6
            Blas, don't worry. That's what pawn shops are FOR.

            Well, that, plus house cleanouts, getting rid of inherited junk, and all other legitimate reasons to sell stuff secondhand.


            Bubblepally,
            I didn't know that if you bought goods that were later proven stolen, you lost out completely! Geez, that just seems unfair. No wonder the pawn shops around here are so strict about ID. Makes sense now.
            Seshat's self-help guide:
            1. Would you rather be right, or get the result you want?
            2. If you're consistently getting results you don't want, change what you do.
            3. Deal with the situation you have now, however it occurred.
            4. Accept the consequences of your decisions.

            "All I want is a pretty girl, a decent meal, and the right to shoot lightning at fools." - Anders, Dragon Age.

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            • #7
              Quoth Seshat View Post
              Bubblepally,
              I didn't know that if you bought goods that were later proven stolen, you lost out completely! Geez, that just seems unfair. No wonder the pawn shops around here are so strict about ID. Makes sense now.
              Well, under law, ownership doesn't end with theft. Someone steals your jewelry, you're still the lawful owner, so if your stolen property turns up, of course it's returned to you (provided you can prove ownership, of course). That means, whoever bought it is SOL; they can try to recoup their losses from the person selling it to them through the usual legal channels, but in most cases, good luck with that.
              You gotta polish a memory like a stone. Chip off the parts that remind you it was just a game. Work it until it's indistinguishable from any other memory.

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              • #8
                Quoth Seshat View Post
                I didn't know that if you bought goods that were later proven stolen, you lost out completely! Geez, that just seems unfair.
                Same in Canada, as far as I know. It would be really unfair if the person it was stolen from had to pay to get it back. It sort of serves as an incentive for buyers to be careful where they buy. If that car stereo deal seems too good to be true, it probably is, and you may end up not being allowed to keep it.

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                • #9
                  Quoth Seshat View Post
                  I didn't know that if you bought goods that were later proven stolen, you lost out completely! Geez, that just seems unfair. No wonder the pawn shops around here are so strict about ID. Makes sense now.

                  Some brokers will buy things knowing they're stolen and buy it anyway. We hold it for 7 days, then you can't get it back. We don't re-sell anything we buy, it goes to the refinery to be melted down.

                  Blas, don't feel bad. The majority of our business is buying gold, sometimes it's scrap, sometimes because it's out of style, and sometimes it is for bills in a tough time. It's a lot smarter than running up a credit card bill you might not be able to pay.

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                  • #10
                    A woman I helped out for a few months sold a ton of her gold jewelry, including a class ring. She made something around the tune of four hundred and eighty dollars and gave me the eighty as payment since I had to run into the shop for her due to her limited mobility.

                    It was all definitely hers though, since I also had to help her dig it out of various places around her apartment as I tried to help her clean the place up. Of course I can't verify where or when she got it since she has also admitted to shoplifting.

                    *sigh*

                    Oh well.

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                    • #11
                      Quoth PepperElf View Post
                      if they're scammers (like i also suspect) they'll get offended that you didn't give them money and look at you like you tried to piss on them.
                      I did that for a panhandler and he viley cussed me out. I could tell he was after drug money from the burns on his lips.
                      Quoth Seshat View Post
                      I didn't know that if you bought goods that were later proven stolen, you lost out completely! Geez, that just seems unfair. No wonder the pawn shops around here are so strict about ID. Makes sense now.
                      In Illinois simply posessing goods that we 'acquired or offered under circumstances that a reasonable person could conclude stolen' is a crime...and pawnshops are not immune to posession of stolen property. Some states maybe, but not Illinois.

                      As for your case, Blas, that's a much better idea than a payday, title, or tax refund loan.
                      I'm trying to see things from your point of view, but I can't get my head that far up my keister!

                      Who is John Galt?
                      -Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged

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                      • #12
                        Being a pawnbroker in Canada might be a little different, but same idea, Bubblelittlepally. We have to keep things for 30 days here, and have to be EXTREMELY careful just as you would not to take stolen items. Not only would you be out the money AND the item... getting any compensation is near impossible if you buy or loan against anything not on the up-and-up (can't get blood from a stone, you know, so normally suing the pledger is not an option). Gut instinct is 90% of how we deal with loans, and I've been in the same position several times. Being a female in the business can be even more difficult sometimes, depending on who and what you are dealing with at the time - but I'm proud of the fact that we run a "clean" business, unlike others in the same area.

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                        • #13
                          That dude and his wife sounded like addicts to me. You did good with trusting your instincts.
                          I don't get paid enough to kiss your a**! -Groezig 5/31/08
                          Another day...another million braincells lost...-Sarlon 6/16/08
                          Chivalry is not dead. It's just direly underappreciated. -Samaliel 9/15/09

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                          • #14
                            At my old work we sat on purchased goods for 5 weeks to allow the police time to sift for stolen items. Given what he's bringing in I'm guessing it's coming from shoplifting at the mall with some good old fashioned B & E in the mix.
                            I'd suggest talking to the store manager, the last thing an hoesnt pawn shop wants is a rep for catering to junkies ( and from your description he's been high on SOMETHING)

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                            • #15
                              Quoth bubblelittlepally View Post
                              Some brokers will buy things knowing they're stolen and buy it anyway. We hold it for 7 days, then you can't get it back. We don't re-sell anything we buy, it goes to the refinery to be melted down.

                              Blas, don't feel bad. The majority of our business is buying gold, sometimes it's scrap, sometimes because it's out of style, and sometimes it is for bills in a tough time. It's a lot smarter than running up a credit card bill you might not be able to pay.
                              I think that happened on one of my other sites.

                              Guy was at a pawnshop and saw items that were clearly overpriced. Owner came up with some bullshit reasons for the price - aka he lied. When the guy pulled out his cell and photographed the item the owner had security escort him off the property.

                              I don't know if the guy could get the police involved over the owner lying about the item's features. But... if he got a photo of the serial number (it has one believe me) perhaps the owner was worried about that number being brought to the cops...

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