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  • You mean it gets disconnected if I don't pay?

    This is a classic from my call center days (oh, how I do NOT miss them!)

    This woman calls me, her cell phone service has been shut off due to non payment. She was already raging made when the call started...

    Me: I can get your service back on ma'am, but you'll have to pay the outstanding balance plus a reconnect fee to restore service.
    SC: I'm not paying a penny! NOT ONE PENNY! Don't you know it's ILLEGAL to cut off someone's cell phone?
    Me: Actually ma'am, it's perfectly legal. If it wasn't, we wouldn't do it.
    SC: BULLSHIT! What if I had an emergency and needed to call someone? You can't just cut me off like that with no way to get help.
    Me: All phones call dial 911, regardless of whether not the bill has been paid.
    SC: What if I don't want to call 911? What if I need to call my brother or daughter or mother-in-law and tell them what's going on?
    Me: Well, you'd need to pay the bill and restore service to make those calls.
    SC: CUT MY PHONE ON NOW!
    Me: I can't do that unless you pay.
    SC: CUT IT ON!
    Me: I understand you're upset, may I take a moment to review your account?
    SC: Fine, but I swear to God if you hang up or transfer me, I will--
    Me: Ma'am, I would get fired if I did those things. Hold one moment. (Note: I would be fired for hanging up on her, not so much for transferring. However, a transfer would cause me to fail the call on a QA audit, so not a good idea anyway)

    So I look at her account. I did this for no particular reason other than to give both me and the SC a chance to calm down a little bit. I find something interesting when I look at the account: This woman has paid her bill only FOUR times this year (it's October) and yet, this is the first time her service has been cut off.

    How is this possible? It seems she's been calling in regularly and beating service credits out of our poor reps to keep her phone active without actually paying much. So I go back to the call...

    Me: Thank you for your patience ma'am, I've reviewed your account and unfortunately there's no way I can restore your service without any form of payment.
    SC: BULLSHIT! You can't do that, It's ILLEGAL to cut me off, do you hear me, ILLEGAL!
    Me: No, it's not.
    SC: YES IT IS!
    Me: NO, it's not.
    SC: Are you a lawyer?
    Me: No...
    SC: Then how the hell do you know what's legal and what isn't?
    Me: I don't think that's really the point here, but--
    SC: TURN MY PHONE ON!
    Me: Not without payment.
    SC: Ok, that's it! Get me a manager or supervisor now! I swear I will have your job over this!

    So I called a Supervisor over. The SC ranted and raved at the Supervisor for close to 15 minutes, before finally declaring her intention to lawyer up if we didn't turn her on phone back on without payment.

    That was the out we needed. My sup immediately gave her the number for the legal department and said he could no longer deal with her on this matter because of her intention to pursue litigation. She again screamed: "CUT MY PHONE ON!" only to have the manager repeat the above statement. Lather, rinse, repeat for a few minutes and then she finally gave up.

    Unfortunately, this story actually has a sad ending:

    About a week later, I checked SC's account, curious to see if she ever actually paid up or if she was still cut off. To my surprise the account was restored...and no payment had been received.

    I'm sure you can guess where this is going. She'd called back to us, threatened to cancel her 5 lines and go to the competition and some spineless retention rep had put a fat credit on her account to stop that from happening, thus restoring her service without her needing to pay anything.

    I wish I could find that rep and punch him in the face.
    "If we refund your money, give you a free replacement and shoot the manager, then will you be happy?" - sign seen in a restaurant

  • #2
    My sup immediately gave her the number for the legal department and said he could no longer deal with her on this matter because of her intention to pursue litigation.
    I really do wish more stores would have a number on hand like this. I've taken to killing the conversation with any customer that plays the Sue card or even remotely suggests legal action.

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    • #3
      What's the point? The company is practically paying her bill for her. Won't there be a savings by her going somewhere else as she never pays her bill?
      The angels have the phone box.

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      • #4
        Quoth starsinthesky View Post
        What's the point? The company is practically paying her bill for her. Won't there be a savings by her going somewhere else as she never pays her bill?
        Because then the company's retention rate goes down, which is nearly as bad (if not worse) in some corporate nitwit's eyes.
        PWNADE(TM) - Serve up a glass today! | PWNZER - An act of pwnage so awesome, it's like the victim got hit by a tank.

        There are only Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse because I choose to walk!

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        • #5
          Quoth Jay 2K Winger View Post
          Because then the company's retention rate goes down, which is nearly as bad (if not worse) in some corporate nitwit's eyes.
          I sorry, your right, corporate nitwits are nearly as stupid as SC.
          The angels have the phone box.

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          • #6
            uggg. why oh why do I pay my bills every month....oh thats right I am a normal human being. I think I would ashamed to call up places and act like that.


            My friend does this w/ comcast. She is getting internet phone and cable(all channels) for $50 a month.

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            • #7
              whatwhowhyhowtheHELL?

              Look, I know bitching at retention gets you shiny things, because sometimes it works (Retention has gotten me from canceling my cable once by offering me a really nice big discount, and I figure it's better for them to have me paying anything vs nothing).

              But I have never heard of retention that was that brain dead to repeatedly just pay some one's bills for them. Seriously. The Hell?

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              • #8
                I can't say I don't blame you for wanting to the retention rep, CC but I thought that it's retention reps have to kiss the customer's ass to keep them with the company. That SC sure didn't deserve that credit at all to be honest and should've had her account closed at the most. At my job, if a customer is past due and calls in for activating receivers, ordering movies, replacing equipment or getting a tech out, the database literally blocks reps from putting in orders until the past due balance is paid in full. I dread getting those calls because the worst EW's come out of the wood works almost everytime.
                I don't get paid enough to kiss your a**! -Groezig 5/31/08
                Another day...another million braincells lost...-Sarlon 6/16/08
                Chivalry is not dead. It's just direly underappreciated. -Samaliel 9/15/09

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                • #9
                  I hate to say it but when I see other people able to get free stuff through threats and lying, I sometimes look in the mirror and see my reflection turn into a sucker (Like in the Tom and Jerry cartoons)
                  http://www.customerssuck.com/?m=20080203

                  My destiny is not pretty, but it's what my cutie mark is telling me.

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                  • #10
                    Any agent at my place of employment who reactivated her service with a credit after repeated non-payments would be for the high jump! Even retentions!

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                    • #11
                      Can you submit a coaching for the rep who did that? In my company we can give coachings to other reps, which go through their managers and alert them to any problems.

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                      • #12
                        How is having X number of customers all paying their bills worse than X+Y customers when Y customers are not paying their bills? It still costs money to service those Y customers. Even being able to claim having X+Y customers will come back to bite you since while you show having so much people means you have to show a lot less profit per customer.

                        And so what if your competition gets them instead, let them drain your competition's resources. Only stupid pinheads think just raw number of stated customers is how you make a profit.

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                        • #13
                          Here's to hoping her phones never work..mean I know but I hate hearing stories where the SC get what they want.

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                          • #14
                            If it was up to me to design these databases, I would have a option where if a SC threatens legal action, the rep can click a "refer to legal" button, which will only allow them to add notes regarding why legal should be involved and then the account is locked out from any rep, sup or manager at any level until legal investigates.

                            No calling back and tricking someone else. Anyone else who tried to pull the account would see a big red box saying that the acct has been refereed to legal and the info to contact them and nothing else.

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                            • #15
                              I think it's time you went above those others heads that you work with and go to someone else to have them or some other team contact this SC, and keep the service shut off for nonpayment. You've already looked at the account and saw that she's scamming the system, so there's your proof. If management argues with you about it, ask them how they feel if you were to start making the remaining customers happy and causing the company to lose money by suggesting the customers follow the same behavior as this SC.

                              I had a similar customer while at Dish Network who would order adult PPV subscriptions (not the movie, but just a whole month subscription), then cancel it after one movie. To remove adult PPV programming we charged the customers a 410, but every time this was waved. I had about had it after dealing with this guy over and over and seeing that he was scamming us, that I put notes in ALL CAPS stating that I'm personally handling the account and would check on it constantly. Whenever I saw an adult PPV subscription removed without a fee, I would go in and tack one back on.
                              Last edited by emax4; 01-05-2012, 02:44 AM. Reason: changed "tell them" to "ask them", as to give the company food for thought, rather than simply suggesting the OP just do else

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