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  • Car analogies....

    Being in tech support and customer service for a long time plus being into cars, I can make car analogies for just about everything. Cases in point:

    When a customer asks the difference between Windows Vista and 7: "Windows Vista was like a car with a lot of hype but was released with a lot of problems. 7 is the same car but redesigned with all those problems fixed and then some." Another way you can look it at was: "Besides all the know issues, Vista was also like a car with a tow hitch that no trailer manufacturer had a compatible receiver for in over 6 months. With 7, that problem was largely ironed out."

    Speaking of Vista, when a customer says that Micro$oft should give people Windows 7 for free because they admitted that they messed up with Vista: "Let's say you buy a car from Chevy. The transmission fails after a year, and soon after many more people complain Chevy admits they installed a transmission that couldn't handle the motor and the next version of the car will come with the right transmission. You storm into the dealership and tell the manager that because Chevy admitted they screwed up with your car, that you demand that they give you the next-gen model for free and take yours back. What do you think he'll tell you?" *

    When a customer complains and says we're a horrible company because he has to pay to get his 6-year-old modem replaced (unless he has a protection plan): "You buy a car from say Ford and two years after the warranty runs out you need it fixed. Is Ford a horrible company because they're going to tell you the repair is going to cost money?"

    When a customer thinks it's poor service to charge him if the problem turns out to be inside the home (Like all ISPs, we are only responsible for outside wiring unless you have a protection plan): "You buy some aftermarket parts for your Mustang. The dealer offers to install them for you which will give you a warranty on them as well. You decline and say you'll do it yourself. A few months later one of the parts break. You bring it back to the dealer who tells you that because you don't have a warranty on the aftermarket parts they are only responsible for the factory parts and to fix the aftermarket item you can either pay to get it fixed, or call the manufacturer of the part. Are you going to tell the dealer that you think it's poor service for them to do that?"

    To the old fart who threatened to go back to dial-up because he needed to power cycle his DSL modem once every *GASP!* 1 or 2 months: "Let's imagine that your dial-up was a bicycle. You get rid of the bicycle and upgrade to a nice new sports car, which is your DSL. While your bicycle hardly every needed anything done to it, your sports car requires regular maintenance like any other car. What you are saying is the equivalent of threatening to sell your car back to the dealer and going back to riding the bicycle because you don't like that you have to do regular maintenance on the car."

    Now obviously, it's okay to say the first one. The last four.... might get me in trouble if I actually said that to a customer. :/

    *Before anyone says anything, I'm sure a company like GM would offer to install a better transmission in said car, or beef up the transmission with newer parts....
    Last edited by sld72382; 01-10-2012, 08:21 PM.

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    The problem with these analogies is these are probably the same customers who give dealerships and car repair shops a hard time for the exact reasons you describe. I know a car salesman, and he once had to explain to a customer why needing a routine oil change was not covered in their warranty. The customer apparently thought needing to change the oil every 3000 miles was a defect that needed to be fixed.
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    • #3
      Be careful in your analogies... Why? Just Google "ford mustang transmission Chinese"
      Last edited by emax4; 01-11-2012, 06:06 PM. Reason: changed "our" to "your"

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      • #4
        Quoth emax4 View Post
        Be careful in our analogies... Why? Just Google "ford mustang transmission Chinese"
        LOL I started a fratching thread about this very thing. Didn't go too well....

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        • #5
          Quoth sld72382 View Post
          Speaking of Vista, when a customer says that Micro$oft should give people Windows 7 for free because they admitted that they messed up with Vista: "Let's say you buy a car from Chevy. The transmission fails after a year, and soon after many more people complain Chevy admits they installed a transmission that couldn't handle the motor and the next version of the car will come with the right transmission. You storm into the dealership and tell the manager that because Chevy admitted they screwed up with your car, that you demand that they give you the next-gen model for free and take yours back. What do you think he'll tell you?" *
          As any car should be expected to last for more than 1 year before replacement, I'd expect a class-action lawsuit to ensue if they didn't offer a full recall... That's the problem with this kind of analogy, the predicted lifespans of cars are much longer than those of operating systems.

          Now, a more appropriate analogue here would be that you've just bought your shiny car & the manufacturer has recommended you use a specific fuel blend which has only just come to market. The manufacturer's made this recommendation in good faith, but it turns out the car requires special retuning to benefit fully which the manufacturer was unaware of - it still runs fine but with some tweaks you can get it to run better that stock, although still not as good as the fuel company claimed. The fuel company admits it's made an error in the formulation, & issues an improved formulation which works better in every engine that was intended to use the old one even without retuning.

          While it might be a measure of good faith for customers to get some coupons for a cheaper tankful or two, you're unlikely to get a full refund as you only really lost out on potential gains, and other avenues existed for you to reap better performance.
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          • #6
            I am reminded of the old 'If Windows were a car jokes."

            Here it is: http://www.performantsystems.com/GM.html
            Last edited by cinema guy; 01-11-2012, 01:13 PM. Reason: added link
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            • #7
              great comparisons.


              i always love when customers go on about "how much money i spent! and it doesn't work!" ... which they then try to turn it into a reason why their work should be free.

              or they purchase a warranty and they're furious that all "they money they spent" and it doesn't cover it!!!


              Like cars. Sure you have a warranty on the car but... that doesn't cover HOW you drive it. You download a virus that fucks your hdd up, that's your fault. Same as how your car warranty doesn't cover your traffic tickets.

              Or let's say you drive your car into a lake. Do you think the warranty is going to cover the water damage? Same reason the basic warranty doesn't cover you soaking your computer. Even though you spent a lot of money on it ... you broke it outside the warranty.

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              • #8
                Quoth RealUnimportant View Post
                As any car should be expected to last for more than 1 year before replacement, I'd expect a class-action lawsuit to ensue if they didn't offer a full recall... That's the problem with this kind of analogy, the predicted lifespans of cars are much longer than those of operating systems.
                Well now that GM is a good company I'm sure they would do something to compensate for putting a substandard part in a vehicle.

                But, sometimes it's not realized until years later. A primary example of this is the '94-'96 Impala SS. The 4L60 transmission could not handle the torque of the LT1 engine and after 100,000 miles or so the transmissions would simply fail. Did people sue GM? Nope, they either had the transmission fixed and beefed up by a speed shop, installed the much stronger 4L80 or swapped in a 6-speed manual....

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                • #9
                  Again, that's where the car analogies fall down; if a computer (or operating system) lasted that long before issues were found then they wouldn't really be considered issues. 100,000 miles from a transmission isn't so bad either, even in the 90s, so I could see that people would deal with it more maturely.
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                  • #10
                    Quoth sld72382 View Post
                    Well now that GM is a good company I'm sure they would do something to compensate for putting a substandard part in a vehicle.

                    But, sometimes it's not realized until years later. A primary example of this is the '94-'96 Impala SS. The 4L60 transmission could not handle the torque of the LT1 engine and after 100,000 miles or so the transmissions would simply fail. Did people sue GM? Nope, they either had the transmission fixed and beefed up by a speed shop, installed the much stronger 4L80 or swapped in a 6-speed manual....
                    yup just like the infamous Passlock passive anti-theft ignition system (ongoing problem) and the "let's put plastic head gaskets with no metal core in our V-6 engines ($2k replacement cost)" and not acknowledge there is a problem until we get hit with a BIG class action. they KNEW for years there were problems but failed to do anything.
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