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  • Estate Madness (Looooonnnngg)

    This is rather unusal. I actually have retail SC stories, well sort of.

    I'm up here in Maryland to finally hold the estate sale for my mother's belongings. Some of you might be aware from things I've dropped in Off Topic, Mom has Alzheimers and Brother and I put her in Assisted Living last fall. We finally sold the house, have taken what we wanted from the stuff in it, and had a big estate sale to get rid of the rest today.

    Of course, such a noble purpose as caring for ones elderly mother can't go without a few Sucky Customers to spoil the mood.

    Some of these items are more irritating than sucky, but there were a few genuine trademarked SCs and EWs who darkened our door . . . literally.

    The Setting

    Picture it . . . Sicily, 1890 . . . OK, it's really a bedroom community in Maryland, and it's not 1890, but you get the idea.

    Brother and I called it a yard sale, but we were able to sell very little in the actual yard. There was just too much stuff to actually put in the yard. Because Brother had not wanted me to hold a yard sale earlier when the house was still for sale, most of Mom's stuff was well, stuffed all over the place.

    I arrive early Friday afternoon to start getting things organized. Brother, Sister In Law (SIL), and the Kids (S, D, and P) were due later in the afternoon to help set up. When I arrived, I find a pickup with a large trailer backed in the driveway. The back of the trailer is a whisker away from the garage door. I realize immediately it is the roofers (we have to replace the roof to the studs, and install gutters as part of the sale of the house). No roofers are actually on the roof working, which I thought odd since it was still early in the afternoon.

    I get inside and start organizing stuff. I text Brother to let him know I've arrived, and the roofers have been at the house. Later, I go into the garage to find some boxes and find a ton of ladders and roofing materials filling up the garage. I realize I've been there a couple of hours and the roofers have not returned.

    Uh oh.

    With all the roofing stuff in there, we can't get anything out on the driveway for the sale. In particular, we can't get the mower and the other power tools out to sell. They're boxed in by both the stuff, and the trailer.

    SIL and the kids arrive shortly thereafter, and she lets Brother know. He calls Realtor who doesn't get the problem, and Contractor who really doesn't get the problem "can't they just do it another weekend." Brother is irritated; technically Contractor is in breech of contract because he started the work too soon.

    Uhm. No. First of all, this is the last weekend I can come up before the closing. Secondly, the closing is in TWO WEEKS and we are obligated by the contract to have the house cleaned out. Let me say it again: CLOSING IS IN TWO WEEKS.

    Next morning Contractor arrives, and immediately sees our problem once he visualizes all the stuff his workers left in there. He gets the stuff out, but asks to leave some materials that are hard to move behind; we agree since we now have the room we need to move.

    The Pitch

    I was a little worried we wouldn't get enough traffic. We forgot to put an ad in the local paper. Brother put one in Craigslist Friday night, and we put out signs. To avoid the "drive by" yardsaler, we put out a BIIIG sign reading "More Inside" to let people know the majority of the sale was indoors.

    The signs worked; we got lots of traffic and sold stuff to just about everyone who came in the door. Of course aggressive pricing was key; almost everything was dirt cheaply priced, and we dickered down when ever asked. Very few sales were refused because the buyers couldn't agree to a price (that's where the SC's come in, shortly)

    Shoplifters

    Of course, having the yard sale mostly inside did have its problems. Although we had four adults (me, Brother, SIL, SIL's sister, and also S. and D. as they are older), we still lost stuff to shoplifters including my brand new Leatherman tool, and (of all things) the shower rod out of one of the bathrooms.

    A shower rod??? Really??

    We may have lost other stuff. Mom has so much, it was hard to keep track of it all.

    Crystal Daze and Silver spoons in mouths

    One of our customers, who bought a lot of stuff from us, found a box that, when opened, revealed a very nice crystal decanter, in pristine condition. Brother priced it at 5 bucks, though I'm sure it was much more expensive originally. The customer declined to buy it.

    A bit later, Sleezy Guy asked about the decanter. I stuck to Brother's price of $5. He offered $3. Since $5 was already a huge steal, I declined the offer. He pouts.

    He later offers me $5 for 8 silver teaspoons from a tea service. We had them priced at $20, and I think there's more money in the actual silver. But we did want to sell stuff, so I counter $15. He complains there's no silver weight marks on the teaspoons, which is true. They may only be silver plated. But they are also very old. I decline again, and he leaves buying nothing, with this look that says, "you're crazy for not dickering."

    EW.

    I'll take that, and that, and that, and that, and that, and . . .

    Seriously. This gal was buying practically everything in sight. She wasn't sucky, and we were actually very happy that she was buying so much because we needed stuff to move. It was just hard to keep up with her because she wanted prices on everything we hadn't had time to price, and she wanted to buy some very odd things, like the bathroom rugs, the shower curtain, and mismatched towels. But she also bought some of our bigger furniture items, and a lot of our kitchen stuff.

    She ended up taking the mattress and box spring from Mom's bed (we can't legally sell them in Maryland, so we told the buyer of the frame and headboard he could have them, but he didn't want them. She overheard and took them).

    She also bought Dad's desk. She had to arrange for a truck and was gone awhile. Meanwhile, another lady buys the file cabinet. When the first gal returns and finds the file cabinet is gone, she gets a bit upset, but is quickly mollified when I apologize that I didn't understand she wanted it as well as the other furniture. The good news was, I didn't charge her for it, so she wasn't out any money in the first place.

    Why so expensive?

    Did I mention we were pricing everything to move?

    Most of the stuff in the house was priced at a dollar or less. Mom had a lot of nice glass and ceramic collectibles that we priced at 50 cents across the board. Some of them were displayed in a shadow box, which we priced at $1.50.

    Sucky Lady wants to pay a buck for the shadow box, and I agree. She asks about the glass, I tell her 50 cents per piece. She wants to know if the items in the shadow box are included in the 1 dollar, I tell her no, 50 cents each.

    She gets real snotty, looks down her nose and says, "Why is your glass so expensive?"

    Oh, no bitch. You did not just talk down to me.

    Me: It's not expensive. My brother and I agreed on a uniform price for all glass items, with a few exceptions, to encourage sales. If you want to make me an offer, you can and we can discuss it.

    SL grumbles, then asks how much for the shadow box and the items in it. I count them quickly, and give her a price that includes each item at 50 cents. I didn't give her the usual buy in bulk discount we gave some folks (like the lady who bought Dad's entire DVD library).

    Dumbass bitch leaves behind about half a dozen items she paid for. No loss!

    SIL reminds me not to take it personally and she's right . . . but it was the attitude not the request that bugged me.

    Eventually the sale winds down, all items are picked up and we pack it in. We are still with a lot of stuff that needs to be sold, so Brother and I are splitting up the remainder to sell at individual yard sales later in the summer.

    I'm exhausted. I'm too tired to be tired. And I have a lot of packing yet to do in order to get on the road tomorrow.
    They say that God only gives us what we can handle. Apparently, God thinks I'm a bad ass.

  • #2
    I was selling my mom's stuff, and priced them kind of high just because I know people were going to dicker. Funny thing, I went to my aunt's neighborhood for one sale, and it's a really nice, upper middle class neighborhood. People who lived in the neighborhood even gave me more for the items then what I was asking. People who lived outside the neighborhood would dicker down for stuff.

    I'm glad you straighten out things with the roofers-I was afaid the trailer was one of those early birds who show up, thinking of getting all the good stuff before the sale starts.
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    • #3
      I find that if I price things high expecting a dicker, I don't get one.

      If I price stuff low, it moves. The dealers will dicker if they find enough stuff to buy in bulk to ask for a discount.

      I don't mind selling to the dealers. I know they are just going to resell Mom's stuff at a fantastic markup in a thrift shop or online. I don't care. I get a little money now, and don't have to put the effort into getting a "real" price item by item.

      I do have several boxes of the nicer stuff that I'm taking to a consignment shop in the hopes of getting a more realistic price for things.
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      • #4
        Quoth Panacea View Post

        She ended up taking the mattress and box spring from Mom's bed (we can't legally sell them in Maryland, so we told the buyer of the frame and headboard he could have them, but he didn't want them. She overheard and took them).
        Dumb question, but why can't you sell them?
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        • #5
          Quoth fireheart View Post
          Dumb question, but why can't you sell them?
          MD law, due to the possibility of things like bedbugs and such. Kind of annoying, and lots of folks actually don't pay any attention, but officially you can't resell certain items.
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          • #6
            In many places, it's either illegal outright to sell used mattresses, or else they have to be sterilized first. It's for health reasons, basically. Even aside from the possibility of bedbugs, you can get nasty stuff inside them just from lying on them regularly...

            As for people stealing... I don't know that it helped for items that weren't for sale, but for Grandma's (Mom's mom) estate sale, they (I missed it) kept the kitchen off limits to have a place to put things that weren't for sale, and also to be able to use it for lunch.

            edit: beat me to it. Curse my longwindedness!
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            • #7
              Quoth depechemodefan View Post
              People who lived in the neighborhood even gave me more for the items then what I was asking.
              Cool Maybe the locals either knew her, or simply felt the *opposite* way from most yard sale shoppers -- most, especially those who are not from close by, might see the items for sale as "just some stuff", and not connect them to a person who is, or was, living.

              I agree with pricing a bit high in order to prepare for dickering. I can see people paying the asking price simply because there IS a certain point that divides "stuff that's worth the cost" from "it's so cheap it must be crap". Better to be on the good side of that equation.
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              • #8
                Quoth fireheart View Post
                Dumb question, but why can't you sell them?
                It's a sanitation issue. Bed bugs, dust mites, bodily fluids potentially infectious. Hep C can live 30 days in blood or semen.

                I wouldn't buy a used mattress, quite frankly. EDIT: Though I have bought them in the past, before I thought through the health issues.

                But that being said, everyone ignores the law.
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                • #9
                  Quoth EricKei View Post
                  Cool Maybe the locals either knew her, or simply felt the *opposite* way from most yard sale shoppers -- most, especially those who are not from close by, might see the items for sale as "just some stuff", and not connect them to a person who is, or was, living.
                  Back in the late 80s, I was yard saling one day (in MD - hi OP!) and one of the places I went one day was actually an estate sale inside someone's house. I picked up a few things. When I was checking out, the lady looked at one item, a simple wooden cube box with a round cavity and lid, and said wistfully "Oh... Mom always kept her loose change in this!" Well, I asked her if she could really bear to part with it, and she said, yes, she couldn't keep everything. I told her I'd give it a good home. I still have it, and I still think of our conversation when I see it.

                  Some people do see it as more than just stuff. I didn't know the lady or her mother, but the mushy part of me likes to think, by honoring their small trinket, I am honoring them as well. I think of things that belonged to my grandparents, that have moved on to other people (against my wishes) and I hope those people appreciate the items. Especially whoever has their piano, and the family friend who got some antique furniture that was too fragile to ship across country. I wish I had those. Thank goodness *I* have the trinket boxes my grandparents kept their loose change and stuff in And I have someone's antique piano, so the balance of the universe is somewhat restored

                  To bring it back to sucky customers at estate sales: I know I've been to estate sales several times (with nice antique and/or vintage items) where CS have had the nerve to talk to each other saying things like
                  "Did you find anything?"
                  "No, just a bunch of junk."

                  Junk!? Could you at least wait to get back into your car, or be out of earshot of the people holding the sale? It's an estate sale, that's a different thing from a yard sale. Try to have a little respect. Oh wait, forgot the name of the site again
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                  • #10
                    Some people do see it as more than just stuff. I didn't know the lady or her mother, but the mushy part of me likes to think, by honoring their small trinket, I am honoring them as well. I think of things that belonged to my grandparents, that have moved on to other people (against my wishes) and I hope those people appreciate the items. Especially whoever has their piano, and the family friend who got some antique furniture that was too fragile to ship across country. I wish I had those. Thank goodness *I* have the trinket boxes my grandparents kept their loose change and stuff in And I have someone's antique piano, so the balance of the universe is somewhat restored
                    My mom has a couple things she got at the estate sale of some former neighbors. Nothing fancy, but they were a lovely elderly couple, and when the wife passed away, the kids had a huge sale. They had a lot of nice stuff, and my mom wanted something to remember them by. I think she ended up with a crystal vase, and something else.

                    They had a huge, open front porch, and every Halloween, she would bake gingerbread men and women, and have cider for all the trick or treaters and the parents. Their kids were grown, and their grandkids lived all over the country, so they liked to do this for the neighborhood kids.

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                    • #11
                      Am I the only one who caught the Golden Girls reference?

                      Interesting fact about reselling mattresses. They get sold here in Oregon ALL THE TIME. Guess they don't care about bedbugs or hepatitis here.....

                      Anyway I LOVE estate sales/garage sales/flea markets/thrift stores. Wish I could have been there.
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                      • #12
                        Quoth vikingchyk View Post
                        When I was checking out, the lady looked at one item, a simple wooden cube box with a round cavity and lid, and said wistfully "Oh... Mom always kept her loose change in this!" Well, I asked her if she could really bear to part with it, and she said, yes, she couldn't keep everything. I told her I'd give it a good home. I still have it, and I still think of our conversation when I see it.

                        Some people do see it as more than just stuff. I didn't know the lady or her mother, but the mushy part of me likes to think, by honoring their small trinket, I am honoring them as well.
                        I've bought a lot of stuff at yard sales, estate sales not so much (usually the stuff I'm interested in is still too expensive for me to afford, or is too dated for my interests).

                        But I did get to meet the couple who are buying Mom's house. They came to the estate sale, and actually bought some furniture from us (4 end tables and a stereo console). It makes me happy to think the stereo will be staying in the house; I have fond memories of Dad playing Christmas music to wake the family on Christmas mornings on that stereo. The wife told me she fell in love with the house as soon as she saw it, "I could tell there was lots of love in this house." I told her there was, and prayed that there always would be for her family as well.

                        They were nice people

                        But I am in the same position as this other lady you mention. I can't keep everything. I have Mom's secretary, china cabinet, china, some quilts made by my great grandmother, Mom's embroidery, some photo albums, and a few other odds and ends with great family memories attached, things I hope I'll pass on to my nieces and/or nephew at some point in time. But there were a lot of other things I would have liked to have kept . . . and couldn't.

                        Most of the people who bought Mom's things seemed interested in them. There were some dealers of course, so I have to hope for the best with some things.

                        Quoth telecom_goddess View Post
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                        • #13
                          Quoth telecom_goddess View Post

                          Interesting fact about reselling mattresses. They get sold here in Oregon ALL THE TIME. Guess they don't care about bedbugs or hepatitis here.....
                          Damn those are some fucked up mattresses.

                          Bedbugs are not as much of an issue down here.
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                          • #14
                            Quoth vikingchyk View Post
                            To bring it back to sucky customers at estate sales: I know I've been to estate sales several times (with nice antique and/or vintage items) where CS have had the nerve to talk to each other saying things like
                            "Did you find anything?"
                            "No, just a bunch of junk."

                            Junk!? Could you at least wait to get back into your car, or be out of earshot of the people holding the sale? It's an estate sale, that's a different thing from a yard sale. Try to have a little respect. Oh wait, forgot the name of the site again
                            Our granddaughter has been spending a month with us each summer since she was five. She loves going to garage & estate sales with me. One of the first rules she had to learn was that these were people selling their own items, so she was to wait to make any comments or ask why I said no to her buying something, until we were back in the car. Cause it's just rude for people to hear you say something is ugly or she can't buy it cause it's crap

                            Madness takes it's toll....
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                            • #15
                              I recently helped a family friend by helping her run an estate sale.... I'm nosy by nature so enjoyed walking thru a strangers house and seeing stuff. As I was getting paid before leaving the sale the lady I was helping told me to just take anything I wanted since it was end of sale and every thing left would be donated. There was a lot of cool stuff but didn't have space or a big enough car to carry home so I got a couple of books a small toy. Best thing I got? 3 YM magazines from the 80's. had a good laugh at the hair and make up in mag

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