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  • Guinness Man can suck it. (very very long. Language!)

    So, one of my three jobs at the moment is in a hotel lounge. This past week has been absolutely horrific, especially Friday. Even thinking about it is making my stomach hurt.

    Our lounge has approximately 70 seats, including a large computer desk, business area. On Friday night the hotel had a conference of ranchers/cattle breeders and the doors opened for what we thought was a 20 minute break. Turns out it was a 2 hour break and we were immediately flooded by at least 110 people, all at exactly the same time, all of them wealthy, half drunk ranchers who like to drink hard and expect to get what they want, when they want it. These are the guys who go purple in the face and kick up a HUGE fuss if something doesn't go their way (as a very small bonus, they are likely to call you "Little Lady" in a Texan accent, which, when I am not losing my mind from stress, I can find endearing).

    It was just...God. I can hardly think about it. Every inch of space in the lounge was taken, they were continually wandering around with drinks like they were at a cocktail party and it was beyond impossible to keep track of who was ordering what, what tab went with what group, when they REFUSED TO STAND OR SIT STILL FOR 5 SECONDS!!!! But even if they had completely crossed the room and were nowhere nearby when I finally got to them with their drink?? Boy howdy, they damn well expected you to track them down because they are super-special and ARE SPENDING SOOO MUCH MONEY AT THIS HOTEL WE NEED TO ALL BEND OVER AND TAKE WHATEVER ABUSE THEY CHOOSE TO GIVE US.

    And through all of this there is me on the floor and my manager, M, behind the bar. And these guys wants multiple rounds. NOW. Did I mention that I am very new to this??? Like brand new? Still shaky holding a tray of drinks-new???

    Total. Nightmare. I spent 2 hours on the verge of tears. In the end a bunch of them walked out on their tabs which was fabulous as well, especially when they could see that there were 2 people serving 110 customers and we were working our asses off.
    Anyhoo, the lounge technically closes at 11:00. The rule is that we have to serve anyone who comes in up until 11:00 exactly, but we are allowed to tell them that it is last call and there will only be one round for them. Still a pain in the butt when big groups come in a 10:59 and want food and blended drinks and all of the booze that has been locked away as part of our closing, but manageable.

    So after the crowd leaves, the lounge honestly looks like there has been a day long house party, it was disgusting. Not a single chair was where it belonged, there was garbage and bottles everywhere, it was at least an hour of frantic cleaning before it looked half normal again. So we finish that, then spend another 45 minutes trying to figure out all of the open tabs on our computer, which was honestly impossible. We had to be creative with every single one of them, because there was no way to really track who had paid for what.

    Then we look at the clock. 11:20 pm. M mentions that the conference is done for the day at 11:45 pm and it is up to us whether we stay open or not.
    Actually, that's not even true, he says "Hey, we should stay open for another go-round!!" And then we both double over, clutching our sides with amusement that we would even consider doing so. Hoo-hoo. Ha-ha. No fucking way. There is a pub 30 feet away from us, it is open until 1:00 am, they can go there.

    So we crank it into overdrive, do our cleaning and print out the sales reports from the computer at about 11:45. Once the reports are printed, we are done selling anything. We can't swipe into the computer and do a sale because the computer thinks it's the next day and everything will be dated wrong for the rest of the month, so basically this is the very last thing we do, except for doing our float and deposit for our cash out.
    12:05 (we have officially been closed for 65 minutes by now and have told 110 very pissed off people that no, we are not open, but again, THERE IS A PUB 30 FEET AWAY. SEE??? WHERE I AM POINTING?? This isn't good enough, we should keep everything open until they decide to shut it down because they ARE SPENDING SO MUCH MONEY IN THIS HOTEL!!. Well, You know what? Besides the shitty tips we got, M and I don't see a dime of that money, so really, it's not our problem.)
    But then, one guy really takes the cake.
    I am sealing our deposit, the lights are off, when Guinness Man walks up to the bar. He is already seething when he gets there. The whole time he talks to me, it's in this 'I have been dealing with you morons all day and I should get an award for staying patient because you are so beneath me" tone of voice.
    GM: (pushes aside the sign on the counter that says Open: 3pm-11:00pm ) I would like a can of Guinness.
    Me: I am very sorry, but we closed at 11:00. I do think they have Guinness at the pub...?? (the pub that I JUST SAW YOU walk out of)
    GM: Yes, but they don't have cans, only draft.
    Me: Oh, well I do apologize but we are closed and all of the beer has been locked..........
    GM: I think you can make an exception

    ok. Now, I have been working since 8am. I am in. No. Mood. I still have adrenalin careening around in my body and I am shaky and exhausted.
    Me: I'm sorry, but we have logged out of the computer and have no cash in the drawer, everything is locked up. We are closed.

    GM: You can make an exception. Do you have any idea how much our group is spending on this conference???
    Me: (It's like I am not actually speaking real words. he refuses to actually listen to a word I am saying. If he would look over my shoulder he would see the padlocks on the coolers and the empty cash drawer...)

    M: (comes back from dropping off the keys in the office) We are CLOSED.
    GM: I KNOW you can make an exception. You are being strict, just to be an ass-hole, aren't you?
    M: No sir. We closed at 11:00. There is nothing I can do.
    GM: So all the money we have spent in this hotel all week means nothing to you ? What are you making, minimum wage???

    OK, by now I am near tears just listening to this. I just want to go home, the last thing I need is a scene.

    M: That's interesting, because half your group walked out on their tabs earlier and we really can't afford to lose any more money to you guys tonight.
    GM: I. Want. A, Can. Of. Guinness.
    M: I'm sorry
    GM: I don't think you really are.
    M: Well, I'm not NOW.
    M grabs the deposit from me, says "Go home. Thanks for your hard work"
    and walks right past Guinness Man without a second look.
    I am sure we will hear about this from the general manager, but for the moment, it was sooo sweet.
    Last edited by I am the Lizard Queen!!; 07-18-2012, 12:09 AM.
    "Can't talk.

    Comin' down."

  • #2
    that sounds absolutely awful! I hope you did recoup the losses on those 'lost tabs'. Can you get that from the conference people or something?
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    • #3
      No, unfortunately we had to put through most of them as paid with cash which means it comes out of our tips. M did void a few of them so we didn't lose ALL our tip money
      "Can't talk.

      Comin' down."

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      • #4
        Damn. It's always the cheap shitty fucks that loooove to spout off how they "spent so much money with your business" line. What a bunch of assholes. The Guinness SC can go eat a dick as far as I'm concerned.
        I don't get paid enough to kiss your a**! -Groezig 5/31/08
        Another day...another million braincells lost...-Sarlon 6/16/08
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        • #5
          Is the conference there another day? I'm thinking prepay and a willingness to tell every person WHY when they question it.
          A lion however, will only devour your corpse, whereas an SC is not sated until they have destroyed your soul. (Quote per infinitemonkies)

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          • #6
            I really feel for the staff when I see a place over packed liked that. You will be running your @$$ off. Working twice as hard and getting half the tips as everyone thinks it is bad service. Getting stiffed on the tab only makes it worse.

            Did I read that correctly? Only you and M were working?

            You might want to have a talk with M about how to better handle something like that. Some ideas.
            Retreat to the bar. You take orders. M mixes.
            You don't get your drinks until you pony up cash, credit card or room number. You can run a tab, but you have to secure it.

            There are enough wait staff on this site, we should be able to get you some good ideas.

            As for Guinness man... We have a chipper with his name on it.

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            • #7
              When I see staff working like you were, I tip even more then my usual 20%. There was no excuse for the way you were treated. And, BTW, Guinness man was a complete asshole. You're closed. There's nothing you can do, even if you wanted to. What a fuckhead.

              Please don't judge all Guinness drinkers by that one jackass. I love that beer, though, I love most beers.

              Also, if I remember correctly, Jester has something in his sig about not pissing off bartenders. I think that also applies to bar staff.
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              • #8
                Quoth csquared View Post
                You might want to have a talk with M about how to better handle something like that. Some ideas.
                Retreat to the bar. You take orders. M mixes.
                You don't get your drinks until you pony up cash, credit card or room number. You can run a tab, but you have to secure it.
                Quoted For Truth.

                As soon as you realized you were getting stiffed on tabs, you should have had a no tab policy, or charged by room number.

                The "do you know how much we spend" line is such bullshit. An excuse for walking all over people. My question would have been, "How much have you spent on tips for ME? Nothing? Then what do you expect?"

                Have a yourself, and some cookies. I'm sorry you got screwed on your tips.
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                • #9
                  What was the conference about? How to be an asshole? Sounds like they've got it nailed.

                  And seriously, who prefers Guinness in a can over on tap??
                  When you start at zero, everything's progress.

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                  • #10
                    Quoth I am the Lizard Queen!! View Post
                    No, unfortunately we had to put through most of them as paid with cash which means it comes out of our tips. M did void a few of them so we didn't lose ALL our tip money
                    NO NO NO NO This is WRONG on too many levels.

                    first it is illegal. as in an employer can not make you pay for dine (or in this case drink) and dash.

                    Second tips are YOURS and your alone. an employer can not by law take those tips away from you or force you to give them up.
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                    • #11
                      Quoth Racket_Man View Post
                      NO NO NO NO This is WRONG on too many levels.

                      first it is illegal. as in an employer can not make you pay for dine (or in this case drink) and dash.

                      Second tips are YOURS and your alone. an employer can not by law take those tips away from you or force you to give them up.
                      This 1000%!

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                      • #12
                        Quoth Racket_Man View Post
                        NO NO NO NO This is WRONG on too many levels.

                        first it is illegal. as in an employer can not make you pay for dine (or in this case drink) and dash.

                        Second tips are YOURS and your alone. an employer can not by law take those tips away from you or force you to give them up.
                        This is both true and not true.

                        It is correct that you CANNOT have dine (or drink) - n - dash charged to the servers, in any way. You'll never see it as a line-item on a pay stub; that's for sure.

                        As a practical matter, pressing the issue may "win the battle, but lose the war." Since servers are employed "at will", if you don't "volunteer" to cover the walk-outs in cash, you can be fired for some B.S. reason like "not paying adequate attention to the customers, enabling them to walk out."

                        Yes, it's illegal. Yes, it's a shitty thing to do. But there isn't much you can do about it, barring getting an employment lawyer involved.

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                        • #13
                          Quoth MoonCat View Post
                          And seriously, who prefers Guinness in a can over on tap??
                          THIS. This is what makes this sucky patron completely nuts, IMO.

                          I'm sorry you had such a terrible night, Lizard Queen. Glad you got through it.

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                          • #14
                            Aaaw, thanks guys! It's funny, but when something awful happens at work now, it doesn't seem quite as bad because I look forward to coming here to post about it! You guys are the best!!
                            Yes, sirwired, that's pretty much it in a nutshell. Because M is a food and beverage manager he is able to void entire tabs, but, as most of you who work with registers know, those voids stay in the system and have to be approved by our general manager. Voiding individual drinks is not a big deal because management understands that people will change heir minds after we enter a drink into the system, or don't like what they ordered, etc, but voiding entire tabs is definitely frowned upon. I don't think we would have gotten fired over voiding 10 entire tabs, but it would have been noticed and I probably would have been given some kind of a warning for not providing efficient enough service, which honestly, after how hard I worked, would have made my head explode.
                            And csquared, we pretty much did exactly what you suggested the next night, except that I am not allowed to remain behind the bar (which would have been so much easier!); I am expected to be giving table service, but we did require payment up-front, which slowed things down even more and pissed a LOT of people off, but I had no problem explaining to people exactly why we were doing it. Those people who weren't total f*cktards felt horrible that we had gotten stiffed so badly and were ok with paying as they went, but I'm sure you can imagine how in minority they were.
                            And, totally, Guinness in a can? is that really a big deal??? huh.
                            "Can't talk.

                            Comin' down."

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                            • #15
                              Y'know, thinking about it, I bet Guinness Man demanded a can of beer for one of two reasons (or maybe both):

                              1) He had just gotten kicked out of the other bar for being an asshole, so he wasn't getting anything to drink there.
                              2) He wanted to prove what a Big Manly Man he was by demanding service at a place that was closed.
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