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    I used to work at a gas station. 10 months ago, I landed a job making several dollars more an hour at a call center. This call center is a bank that does "Private Label" or store credit cards. Every day I am amazed at the things our customers actually believe. Here are some of my most common one liners.

    Apparently, It's Illegal to:

    Charge interest and late fees on a closed account. (If that were true, everyone would get a credit card, max it out, close it, and never pay it off.)

    Tell them they are not allowed to curse at me.

    Tell them we cannot process a dispute on a purchase made over a year ago. (By federal law in the USA you have 60 days from the printing date of the statement the error first appeared on.)

    Transfer someone when they've called the wrong company. (i.e. they called the credit card and need the store's corporate office)

    Refuse to tell them by phone why their application or increase was denied. (Actually, we have to inform them in writing)

    Leave an inquiry on their credit report if we deny their application.

    Charge any fees (late fee, interest, pay-by-phone fee, etc) to any one for any reason at any time.

    Offer them debt cancellation protection. (The sames ones who bitch when we offer this are the ones who call in throwing a fit when they lose their job and can't pay their bill and what do we mean we can't just forgive the debt?)

    Require them to verify their Identity.

    Refuse to release information to a third party (spouse, authorized buyer, credit counselor, etc) without consent from the account holder. Same goes for making changes to an account for a third party.


    Store associates are sometimes suckier/dumber then customers. I answer the phone for store calls "Thank you for calling <Store Name> <Account Lookup/Authorizations> my name is Slave, may I please have your name and store number?"
    I get these responses:

    Uhhhhhh, what?

    Wait, do you want my name or the customer's name?

    Uhhhhh, I need an account looked up.

    Why do you need that?

    DumDum McDummyton, 555-555-5555.

    All of these cause me to repeat, word for word the last bit of my greeting. Then I move on to "Have you seen a valid photo ID for our customer?" The answer should always be yes to this question. And the rep should not be lying. Especially on an account lookup. If you're calling me, the in store lookup failed. If you did a lookup, you should have made sure you're looking an account up for the correct person. While the reps do usually answer yes, I frequently also hear these things after:
    The players:
    *Store rep*
    ^Customer^
    {me}

    *Oh, she works here.* {I still need you to obtain her ID to verify the account information}

    *half assed whisper*Ms Customer, can I see your license?* ^I don't have it.^ *Yes, I have it.* {No you do not. I heard her say she doesn't have it. I will be unable to assist you with the customer's account at this time. We appreciate your call, have a nice day.}

    *Yes*{May I please have the customer's first and last name and her complete mailing address}*What's your first and last name again Customer?*


    You folks are gonna see a lot rolling through here from this job.
    And why do they keep the employees in a cage? The same reason they keep lions, tigers and bears in a cage, to keep them from culling the herd. -Dark Psion

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    The path of the Nazgul has begun my friend.

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    • #3
      Quoth Company_Slave View Post
      Require them to verify their Identity.
      This one drives me crazy, though not in the way you probably mean.

      I loathe it when someone calls me, interrupting my day, then demands I verify personal information before they will tell me the purpose of the call.

      I won't do it. I will not play 20 questions with a debt collector. My response is always for them to communicate only in writing.
      They say that God only gives us what we can handle. Apparently, God thinks I'm a bad ass.

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      • #4
        Quoth Panacea View Post
        I loathe it when someone calls me, interrupting my day, then demands I verify personal information before they will tell me the purpose of the call.

        I won't do it. I will not play 20 questions with a debt collector. My response is always for them to communicate only in writing.
        Agreed, that is a comically easy ID theft scam. Personally, I don't even take calls from Unknown or Blocked.
        I'm trying to see things from your point of view, but I can't get my head that far up my keister!

        Who is John Galt?
        -Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged

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        • #5
          Wow, can't say I blame you. It's frustrating enough to have to play 20 questions when I'm the one who called, but if they called me? Forget it.

          Also frustrating when you get shuttled from one department to another and each department takes you through the same security verification questions ... *sigh* I know why they do it, but it's still ...

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          • #6
            Quoth taxguykarl View Post
            Agreed, that is a comically easy ID theft scam. Personally, I don't even take calls from Unknown or Blocked.
            I am the same way. Thankfully on my droid there is a setting in the phone book that will let me roll a call directly into voicemail ,so any call that is an autodialer or anybody I 'have a business relationship with' that I don't want to deal with I set their number to roll into voicemail. I also have youcall which allows me to set the answer message for any specific number to whatever I want it, so I will set any caller that is supposed to roll into voice mail to have the verizon 'cancelled number' outgoing message
            EVE Online: 99% of the time you sit around waiting for something to happen, but that 1% of action is what hooks people like crack, you don't get interviewed by the BBC for a WoW raid.

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            • #7
              Quoth taxguykarl View Post
              Agreed, that is a comically easy ID theft scam. Personally, I don't even take calls from Unknown or Blocked.
              I wouldn't take calls from those kinds of numbers if I could avoid it, but given the nature of where I work, I sometimes get calls from numbers that are partially blocked (so I only get the area code, for instance) which is work trying to get in touch with me at home.

              Fortunately, most calls that come to me come to my cell phone, so I don't have to deal with too many scam callers.
              PWNADE(TM) - Serve up a glass today! | PWNZER - An act of pwnage so awesome, it's like the victim got hit by a tank.

              There are only Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse because I choose to walk!

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              • #8
                I do want to clarify. I work at an inbound customer service center. I do not call anyone. We only ask to verify Name, Address, and last 4 of social. We also ask to update phone numbers if we haven't spoken with them in over 6 months. We aren't asking for their life history. Also, if they listen to the automated system, they only have to verify last 4 and zip code then tell us their name when we answer.
                And why do they keep the employees in a cage? The same reason they keep lions, tigers and bears in a cage, to keep them from culling the herd. -Dark Psion

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                • #9
                  my name is Slave, may I please have your name and store number?


                  Whenever I called for a a customer as soon as the other side answered I said "This is <PepperElf> from <Store #3.141592653589>" and if requested would include my employee number." From there all information given was the customer's unless the person on the other line specifically asked me to spell my name or asked for my employee number.

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