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    Had two minor annoyances in my last couple of weeks at my old store (two weeks off before transferring to a new store in the same national chain):

    1) I can't prove it, but I deserve a discount.

    Our store offers a store credit and/or debit card. We set ours apart by offering 5% off on all items at all times. This is actually a really nice benefit (especially if you already have an employee discount) in my opinion, but it tends to bring out the suck.

    Older woman is buying a giant cartload of stuff, $200+ easy, with her grandkids. As I'm ringing her stuff up, she remembers she has one of our credit cards and starts digging through her purse for it. The search goes on much longer than it should and I mentally brace for what comes next. She concludes that she forgot her card and asks if I can look it up using her driver's license.

    Now I have a choice here. Not more than two hours prior I watched the cashier on the next lane get their butt chewed by a customer over this same issue. So I know for a fact the answer to her question is no. However, if I tell her that, she's going to spend the rest of the transaction arguing with me about it and she'll inevitably make me call my supervisor over. So I cut out the middle-man:

    "I'm sorry ma'am, but I don't think we can. I can call my supervisor over to make sure if you'd like."

    Of course she says yes, so I call my Sup over and give her the cliff's notes. She explains to the woman that we used to be able to do look-ups but corporate decided it was a "privacy issue" and now we lack that ability. The woman proceeds to argue that "every other store on the planet" can look up your credit card and that our inability to do so is ridiculous. My sup replies that the policy applies to all the stores in our chain, that corporate set that policy, and that we don't even have the option. Woman proceeds to request that we still give her the five percent off. My sup tells her that the best we can do is a $3 apology coupon to apologize for the inconvenience, the customer reiterates that she should get more like $15 off, and asks for the manager on duty. Sup tells the woman politely yet firmly that she is in charge of the front end right now and that no one in the store could do more than a $3 coupon. Customer relents but grumbles for the rest of the transaction about how ridiculous this is and how if she didn't have company coming she'd just tell us to forget it and this why she doesn't shop here much and every other store does it and blah blah blah blah. I think even her grandkids were getting annoyed with her by the end of it.

    I really wish that the overall store manager, Boss of Bosses as I call him, had been around for that one. He once told a customer that if the fit they were throwing represented what their business was like, then no he didn't want their business. I doubt that this woman would have gotten even an apology coupon (or "just please shut up and stop bothering us" coupon in this case) from him. It's seems to be rather freeing to be the person who deals with complaints corporate sends us.

    2) I know I got it down to less than a dollar, but it should be free.
    Customer comes through my lane with something like three bottles of shampoo. Let's say they're $3.99 each. She hands me six coupons, three that give a dollar off and three that give three dollars off. All for this brand of shampoo. I note that each coupon says "Limit One Per Purchase", but my policy is that if the computer lets it go through without objection then I don't really care. I'm pretty sure that is actually how we're trained - scan coupon first, only read it if it gets rejected. Anyhow, by the time I'm done, she owes me pocket change. Less than a dollar, and while I suck at mental math I can see that it is right about what the sales tax ought to be. Which makes sense to me, but what the heck do I know.

    She points out that, by her math, she shouldn't owe me anything. I tell her that I don't know for sure why, but that I defer to the computer since I can see that everything scanned properly and all the coupons came off. She asks for my supervisor. I dutifully call her over, explain the situation to her, and she tells the customer pretty much the same thing: I'm not sure why, but it looks like it's the sales tax. Customer keeps trying to argue that the items should be free, my supervisor points out that by the customer's math we'd owe her three cents. The point swoops over her head, as she says she's not worried about the three cents. At this point, I make a little show of examining the coupon and point out to my supervisor that the coupon has limitations that this customer is exceeding, hey maybe that's the reason this is happening. I'm told that it's fine as long as the computer took it, not quite picking up my intended message (this supervisor, while a perfectly nice woman, never struck me as an outside the box thinker). However, the customer miraculously takes my hint and decides to just hand me a dollar.

    And my co-workers wondered why I greatly preferred pushing carts out in the parking lot to cashiering.
    Last edited by Subspace_Relay; 08-28-2012, 09:58 PM.

  • #2
    Bah, definitely sales tax on the second one. I'm always happy to pay that. Cashiers tend to get scared when they say the total, but I know I have to pay it haha. There's exceptions, of course, but mostly you have to pay it.

    The "limit one per purchase" is fine, by the way, as it is not "limit one per transaction". Two different things.

    Don't even know what to say about the credit card lady. Geesh.

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    • #3
      Re: the coupon scammer

      We sometimes had people try to do the same thing at the wholesale club. When they objected that they still had to pay moneys after the coupons were applied, I told them, "It's the tax you're paying for now. No, we can't take that off. Uncle Sam always gets his cut." And most customers accepted that, begrudgingly.

      Then corporate pushed out a software update that made it so any time an order had more than half the total removed by coupons, it required a manager's override.
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      • #4
        Quoth Slayer View Post
        Bah, definitely sales tax on the second one. I'm always happy to pay that. Cashiers tend to get scared when they say the total, but I know I have to pay it haha. There's exceptions, of course, but mostly you have to pay it.

        The "limit one per purchase" is fine, by the way, as it is not "limit one per transaction". Two different things.

        Don't even know what to say about the credit card lady. Geesh.
        I don't remember exactly what it said, but you're probably right. The more generous coupon may also have had a "do not combine clause" though. Either way, the intended point got across - "We're asking you for less than a dollar on $12 worth of stuff. Take the deal."

        The sad thing is, we get that a lot. Also, we once got a woman who wanted to use a card she'd forgotten (not one of ours) because she'd memorized the numbers on it. She wasn't happy to be told no.

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        • #5
          If I am recalling correctly, most (if not all) coupons say, "Customer is responsible for all taxes, blah, blah, blah," or something like that. So, yeah, Uncle Sam has to get his share and it's the customer's responsibility to pay it.

          *shrugs* If I got $12 worth of stuff for just $1, I think I'd shut up and pay. Then I'd step outside and do my little happy dance...
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          • #6
            I work for said company and people ask frequently if we can look up cards. I use the term security issue and they get the point, usually. Make sure you have your cards with you, people.
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            • #7
              Quoth Subspace_Relay View Post
              I really wish that the overall store manager, Boss of Bosses as I call him, had been around for that one. He once told a customer that if the fit they were throwing represented what their business was like, then no he didn't want their business.
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              • #8
                Quoth Subspace_Relay View Post
                He once told a customer that if the fit they were throwing represented what their business was like, then no he didn't want their business.
                One of my friends posted this on facebook recently: "Woman with a dog walks into my shop. So I tell her she can't be in here with it. She says, I guess you dont need my money. I said, no, i dont."

                Apparently so many people think that "I have money to spend" or "You don't want my money" or some equally inane comment or way of thinking somehow supercedes businesses and employees having to deal with laws, codes, ordinances, and policies. I actually had a guy tell me that our bar had just lost out on a lot of business because I wouldn't serve his ID-less girlfriend a cocktail. Sorry, pal, but your business is NOT greater than the law in my life. Thank you, goodbye!

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                • #9
                  Quoth Food Lady View Post
                  I work for said company and people ask frequently if we can look up cards. I use the term security issue and they get the point, usually. Make sure you have your cards with you, people.


                  In my store, we CAN "look up" a customer's store charge, but all that means is we take their id, pull up their customer profile (which has nothing to do with their credit account), and when we are ready to do the payment, we can hit "look up x store charge" what happens then is the customers info that is in their profile comes up, we verify it, and hit ok. And the transaction goes through. We don't get their number or any other account info. And sometimes we have to call CS as their profile, which is info THEY give us, doesn't match their account info. I had a woman who went by Terry (her middle name) but her first, and legal name, was Marianna. She however, knew this, and told me (we can change the charge lookup info too, if we know to)

                  We also don't have access to their charge balance. So while you CAN pay your charge in store, I can't tell you what you owe. And no amount of pissing and moaning can change that. Its for YOUR protection. I can however, call CS and put you on the phone, as they won't even give me that info, only the customer.

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                  • #10
                    Quoth Jester View Post
                    One of my friends posted this on facebook recently: "Woman with a dog walks into my shop. So I tell her she can't be in here with it. She says, I guess you dont need my money. I said, no, i dont."

                    Apparently so many people think that "I have money to spend" or "You don't want my money" or some equally inane comment or way of thinking somehow supercedes businesses and employees having to deal with laws, codes, ordinances, and policies. I actually had a guy tell me that our bar had just lost out on a lot of business because I wouldn't serve his ID-less girlfriend a cocktail. Sorry, pal, but your business is NOT greater than the law in my life. Thank you, goodbye!
                    It also seems like the people throwing the biggest fit, in retail sales anyways, are the ones trying bend the rules of a sale to get something for free. In the incident I sited, a woman was arguing with him over a sale in which you bought one brand of cooler and got a 24 Pack of Pepsi for free. She and her husband wanted two 12 packs because we were out of Diet Pepsi in the 24 pack. The sign said "limited quantities", which translates to "no substitutions". The woman argued with my supervisor for a while before escalating to BoB. His response was "look, the supervisor already told you what we could do for you, so please move along and let our cashier help other people". This pissed her off, they kept arguing at an empty lane and this culminated in his "If this what your business is like, then no I don't want your business" line. She demanded his full name (no way in hell) and said she was going back to take a picture of the sign so she could send it to corporate with her complaint (she maintained there was no such restriction on the sale).

                    By the time she came back to the front lanes, the 24 pack of regular Pepsi had suddenly become perfectly fine and she hustled through my lane rather quietly. Huh. Wonder why?

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