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  • Yay, I get to call a customer a stupid Dumba**

    Me: awesome game store manager
    SC: Random guy, here to "use" the internet

    SC: Do you guys have wireless internet too? I see that the McDicks next door has it.
    Me: No, sorry. (we do but its a private network) McDicks will let you use it for free though, just ask them for the password.
    SC: Oh, no worries, I already have the password, you see I have an app that hacks the wireless passwords.
    Me: Really??? Those are extremely illegal.
    SC: Why do you care? Its not like it is hurting anyone.
    Me: Hey dumbass, it is people like you that are hurting the economy. (yes I called him a dumbass).
    SC: Well you get paid all the same, why do you care?
    Me: GTFO NOW!
    SC: *Storms out*
    "Employees can make or break any business, so treat them with respect. Job satisfaction has little to do with money. Discover what it has to do with and make sure they get it."

  • #2
    .....I'd have to wonder how he managed to get that app....
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    • #3
      i imagine it's not hard to get one.

      i mean i have software that hacks passwords on local computers. it's not illegal either - well not illegal to have. how it's used however is a different story. in my case i've only used it for professional work.

      likewise the app he used might itself be legal - for professional / testing / forensic use. although yes using it to hack someone just to steal the wifi is of course illegal.

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      • #4
        *sigh* Yes, the programs are all too common, not that it's necessary. Many people don't bother password protecting their wifi. My hubby sees this at work all the time, because now the mobile hot spot feature is free. Someone turns it on for their use, but forgets to lock it down and wham, next thing they know they're looking at a $3000 data usage fee.

        Given that Sandiercy works at a game store that has wifi and the guy has already been a dumbass (admitting he has a password hacker)... booting him out of the store is the smartest thing that could have done. Good grief, he could do real damage given half the chance!
        If I make no sense, I apologize. I'm constantly interrupted by an actual toddler.

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        • #5
          Quoth fireheart View Post
          .....I'd have to wonder how he managed to get that app....
          I think it's like those radar detectors you can put in your car, to know when cops are looking for speeders, etc.

          It's not illegal to own one. But it is illegal to have one in your car and powered up and working.

          Fake Edit: PepperElf is probably more correct. There are apps like that that have legal uses, but as with anything, people will find ways to do illegal things with them.
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          • #6
            Quoth Jay 2K Winger View Post
            I think it's like those radar detectors you can put in your car, to know when cops are looking for speeders, etc.

            It's not illegal to own one. But it is illegal to have one in your car and powered up and working.

            Fake Edit: PepperElf is probably more correct. There are apps like that that have legal uses, but as with anything, people will find ways to do illegal things with them.
            Also they only detect when the gun is going off lol so if you're the first one to get shot at you're fucked.
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            • #7
              I bet if you would have asked him for his Social Security number, he might have changed his tune. After all, "...it's not like it's hurting anyone.."

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              • #8
                Fake Edit: PepperElf is probably more correct. There are apps like that that have legal uses, but as with anything, people will find ways to do illegal things with them.
                ya if i took the password blanker and just started grabbing random people's computers to erase the password to access it for personal gain that'd be illegal and quite fucked up.

                but blanking out the password because a workshop insisted on having a personal local password and then proceeded to forget it, but they still want the techs to fix the computer... well that's fine. not to mention it's much easier than "plan b" which was pretty much "reformat".

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                • #9
                  Quoth PepperElf View Post
                  ... well that's fine. not to mention it's much easier than "plan b" which was pretty much "reformat".
                  Although nothing teaches a lesson on password retention and backing up your work quite like telling a user they have to redo all their work from the past week because you had to reformat.

                  We do keep all our logins on the network level, though. The only time we have password issues are people who get clever with local file passwords.
                  Last edited by Geek King; 12-11-2012, 12:21 PM.
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                  • #10
                    Our wireless network password is (relatively) safe from apps like that: a brute force attack will get it eventually, but a brute force attack would get into the CIA or the Pentagon eventually.

                    We're safe against the level of assault we can expect; being a small home network; and safe against a couple of levels higher as well. But we haven't bothered to lock down to CIA/Pentagon level.

                    So I doubt Mr 'I can get into anything' would get into our network.


                    As for 'it's not hurting anyone' - he's a dumbass. Plain and simple. Someone has to pay for laying cable, building towers, making and managing routers, yadda yadda yadda. How does he want those things paid for? Magical pixies?
                    Seshat's self-help guide:
                    1. Would you rather be right, or get the result you want?
                    2. If you're consistently getting results you don't want, change what you do.
                    3. Deal with the situation you have now, however it occurred.
                    4. Accept the consequences of your decisions.

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                    • #11
                      Quoth Seshat View Post
                      Our wireless network password is (relatively) safe from apps like that: a brute force attack will get it eventually, but a brute force attack would get into the CIA or the Pentagon eventually.
                      Yes, but could a brute force attack get into the CIA or Pentagon before they tracked down the attack's origin and delivered a "brute force attack" of there own?

                      As with anything, given time and resources, you can break in, but generally, hacking into secure systems (especially for someone as security-conscious as the aforementioned CIA or Pentagon) is going to want to AVOID raising alarms if possible.
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                      • #12
                        Quoth fireheart View Post
                        .....I'd have to wonder how he managed to get that app....
                        There's apps readily available on Google Play. Just looking for anything dealing with Wi-Fi will yield results for those apps.

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                        • #13
                          Quoth fireheart View Post
                          .....I'd have to wonder how he managed to get that app....
                          My guess is he used Google search.

                          Either way, he's a major DICK for having the cajones to admit to something like that, let alone to a total stranger.

                          That's right up there with the older lady who once discussed with me why she preferred Dove sensitive soap for her private washing.
                          Human Resources - the adult version of "I'm telling Mom." - Agent Anthony "Tony" DiNozzo (NCIS)

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                          • #14
                            Quoth Jay 2K Winger View Post
                            Yes, but could a brute force attack get into the CIA or Pentagon before they tracked down the attack's origin and delivered a "brute force attack" of there own?
                            Not if their network security staff are on the ball. Unless the brute force attack got really, really, REALLY lucky and got it in the first few tries!


                            Edit: note for those who don't know the idiom.

                            In computer security, a 'brute force password attack' consists of having a computer try logging in with 'a' 'aa' 'aaa' .... 'ab' 'abb' 'abbb' .... 'zyyzzyy' 'zzzzzz' ... and all other combinations of legal passwords available.
                            There are two defences against a brute force attack. The first is to limit the number of login attempts. The second is to monitor activity on the network - and if the network monitoring software notices repeated failed logins, it either shuts that down or alerts a human. Ideally, both.
                            However, if you permit an infinite number of attempts, a brute force attack will eventually succeed.

                            This is why banks and other places where security matters, tend to lock you out after (however-many) failed attempts to log in, and require you to verify your identity before allowing you to access your account remotely again.
                            Last edited by Seshat; 12-11-2012, 10:15 PM.
                            Seshat's self-help guide:
                            1. Would you rather be right, or get the result you want?
                            2. If you're consistently getting results you don't want, change what you do.
                            3. Deal with the situation you have now, however it occurred.
                            4. Accept the consequences of your decisions.

                            "All I want is a pretty girl, a decent meal, and the right to shoot lightning at fools." - Anders, Dragon Age.

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