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  • Money and time, no problem; safety? That's a problem.

    I took a call yesterday morning from a potential customer who wanted to know our price for installing a radio that he'd pulled from another vehicle. I told him the price, he was happy with it, and he set up an appointment for 3pm the same day. He had a full-size Chevy pickup, which I know from experience is about a half-hour job for a replacement radio, so I just booked off a 1-hour block for it.

    When he arrived I went out to pull in the truck, and on the seat I saw an older Kenwood in-dash mobile video unit/DVD player which includes a separate "brain" module, together with an add-on satellite radio unit and antenna; all well-used and with the wiring in a big tangle.

    I went back to him and explained that what he had there wasn't a "radio", nor a half hour job. The installation was going to be quite a bit more difficult than planned, and consequently more time-consuming and expensive.

    I explained that what had been quoted on the phone as a $50 job had turned into a $200+ job.

    He didn't complain; he obviously understood that it had been his fault for not being more clear on the phone about what he wanted installed.

    I went on to explain that we wouldn't be able to finish in the time I'd blocked off; if he wanted it done that day, he would have to leave the truck until we closed at 9pm so we could work on it between other appointments.

    That wasn't going to work out, but he decided to set up an appointment the next day for us to do the installation. So far, so good. The money wasn't a problem; the extra time wasn't a problem.

    Because I'm an old hand at this, I have a pretty good idea what people are looking for when they're putting in-dash movie players into their vehicles. So I finished by explaining that when I install that type of player, it's going to be set up so that the picture is disabled while the vehicle is in motion. In other words, you can't watch a movie while you're driving. Now we had a problem.

    He decided that he'd rather not have us do the installation after all. So off he went, presumably to find a shop with lower safety standards.
    Lack of freedom can be measured directly by lack of stupid. --Penn Jillette

  • #2
    Quoth KaeZoo View Post
    So I finished by explaining that when I install that type of player, it's going to be set up so that the picture is disabled while the vehicle is in motion. In other words, you can't watch a movie while you're driving. Now we had a problem.

    He decided that he'd rather not have us do the installation after all. So off he went, presumably to find a shop with lower safety standards.

    *gathers braincells together and gives them a large shot of whiskey for the shock*
    Holy accident waiting to happen, Batman! Isn't that, like, illegal? *hopes and prays*
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    • #3
      Quoth iradney View Post
      Holy accident waiting to happen, Batman! Isn't that, like, illegal? *hopes and prays*

      State laws vary, but in most if not all of the US it's illegal to have a video screen playing in the driver's view while the vehicle is in motion (exceptions are commonly included for navigation screens). All in-dash video units include some kind of safety lockout that should keep the screen blank until the car is parked, but since most of them depend on interfacing with the vehicle wiring, it's pretty easy to figure out how they work and come up with a way to bypass them.

      The thing is that 90% of the purchasers of these things are buying them to show off for their friends, and the show-off value is diminished if you can't have a movie playing while you're out cruising down the street. If there was a unit that had a foolproof method of keeping the owner from watching and driving, it wouldn't sell. Some manufacturers build in bypass codes or switches, then leak the information to dealers so they can at the safety feature and make the sale.

      Bottom line is if you see a car with an after-market movie player in the dash, there's probably an 80% chance that it's set up to be able to watch movies while driving.

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      Last edited by KaeZoo; 03-23-2007, 12:47 PM.
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      • #4
        What the hell goes through people's heads? I swear...

        It's illegal to hold a phone to your ear, but this guy thinks it's a great idea to have a movie playing on his dashboard while he's driving?

        That link frightens me.
        Last edited by BookstoreEscapee; 03-23-2007, 01:00 PM.
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        • #5
          Quoth BookstoreEscapee View Post
          What the hell goes through people's heads? I swear...

          It's illegal to hold a phone to your ear, but this guy thinks it's a great idea to have a movie playing on his dashboard while he's driving?

          That link frightens me.
          Where are you from? Here, half the COPS drive around with a phone plastered to the side of their head..

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          • #6
            This is the kind of idiot that would probably also think that watching something that encouraged in one handed driving is OK as well.
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            • #7
              Quoth The Angel of Missouri View Post
              Where are you from? Here, half the COPS drive around with a phone plastered to the side of their head..
              I'll second that. Most of the time that I see a cop driving, they are on the phone. Not the radio, but the phone.

              Even worse: when I did my EMT training, when the ambulance is running an emergency call and has flashing lights and such, a lot of the time the driver has to call in to the hospital to let them know what's going on. The medic in the back can't because they have to work on doing things like keeping the patient alive.

              Wonder why there aren't more accidents with ambulances...

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              • #8
                I stopped at a stoplight today (GOD I love being able to say that!!! ) and looked over at the car next to me. The woman had her cellphone in one hand and was PETTING HER DOG with the other. Count with me, children. How many hands were on the wheel? NONE!!!! And then she RIPS through the intersection when the light turns green. I gave her a wide berth and switched to a side-street a block later.
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                • #9
                  I've seen examples of people eating while driving, shaving while driving, applying makeup while driving, reading while driving, giving themselves sponge baths while driving (okay, I made up that last one, but it wouldn't surprise me if some dry-pool diving team member decided to try that).

                  There are supposedly laws against distracted driving, but they aren't enforced really well I guess.
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                  • #10
                    A man my husband used to work with would read AND brush his teeth while driving. He was in so many accidents I don't know why he got to keep his DL, and the side of his car was covered in spit out toothpaste

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                    • #11
                      Around where I live, the cops are on the phone also. I hate seeing asshole on the phone when I am driving, and coming up fast on me. That is when I slow down. I do not understand the whole DVD player in vehicle concept.
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                      • #12
                        scary

                        In California it is illegal to drive while talking on your cellphone unless you have a hands-free device.

                        If i see someone watching a movie while driving- I will honk and swerve *within sanity* and yell enough to hopefully make the guy pee his pants- chances are they wont be sure they didnt actually do something wrong because they were so occupied by their pretty pretty screen *ooh shiny*

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                        • #13
                          while it may be illegal to talk and drive here, it doesn't stop them; i still see them busily chatting away while rolling down the road.
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                          • #14
                            Quoth SmileyBouncer View Post
                            In California it is illegal to drive while talking on your cellphone unless you have a hands-free device.
                            Are you sure? I was told that law is not in effect until January of 2008.

                            Edit: Found it- http://www.ghsa.org/html/stateinfo/l...hone_laws.html

                            Apparently July 2008. So I fear it's not illegal yet.
                            Last edited by KuzcoLlama; 03-24-2007, 07:44 PM.
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                            • #15
                              It's been illegal over here for some time. Doesn't stop the dedicated idiots.

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