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  • OH MY GOD, I'm trying to scam you! (kinda long)

    I knew right away this would not be a good call...

    Me: "Thank you for calling _____, this is CurlyLocks, how may I help you?"
    SC: "Yeah, can you tell me if the account is an individual or company account?"
    Me: (hmm, THE account, shall I just pick one at random from the tens of thousands of accounts in our files?) After a bit of questioning I determine that he is calling regarding an existing account, and he does in fact have an account number. I pull it up.
    SC: "My brother placed an order and I'm his business partner and I want to know if it's a company account."
    M: Ok for security purposes can you verify the name on the account, address, etc.
    "Well, it looks like it was set up as an individual account."
    SC: "But it has the company name on it!"
    Me: "Yes, it has your brother's name as well as the company name, but it was set up as an individual account. When we set up a new account the agent determines this information from the customer."
    SC: "Why is it an individual account, the company's name is on it?"
    Me: "We ask the customer if he will individually be responsible for paying it, and if so it's an individual account. If the company will be paying for it, we mark it as a company account. Some people do put their company's name on the account even if they are paying for in individually."
    We then have this same conversation two more times. Finally,
    SC: "Can I make an order and put in on my brother's acccount?"
    Me: "Well, since it's marked as his individual account, you would have to get your brother to call us and authorize you to order on his account. If you like, I can set up a company account for you, or your own individual account." After more discussion, he decides he wants to set up an individual account for himself. It takes him awhile to get his info together, as he claims that "OH MY GOD, my brother left the home office a mess! I just flew back in from our world headquarters in Detroit, MI."

    I set it up, and ask him for the first item number. The number he gives me is for a really nice leather briefcase, over $200. My scammer alert starts to go off. He then adds several more items, making the order total over $425. With a sinking feeling in the pit of my stomach, I ask "What kind of credit card will be using today?"

    SC: "OH MY GOD (each time he screams this it's as though the Apocalpyse were nigh), you want a credit card?"
    Me: "Yes, we do ask that our first-time customers use a credit card."
    SC: (putters about, again informing me that he's just flown in from world headquarters in Detroit, MI). "I don't think I have my credit card with me."
    Me: "If you like, I can put this order on hold for you for 24-48 hrs and you can call us back when you have your credit card information."
    SC: "Can I be billed for this?" (surprise, surprise, what took you so long?)
    Me: "Yes, we can invoice you; all orders are subject to credit approval."
    SC: (hemming and hawing) "Can my brother order this on his account and be billed for it?"
    Me: "He can do that if he likes; again, all orders are subject to credit approval."
    SC: "Even though he's already ordered from you?"
    Me: "Yes, every order is subject to credit approval."
    We then have this conversation 2 more times.

    SC: "Can you just bill me on my account?"
    Me: "Yes, we can do that. You will receive this order in 7-10 days, pending credit approval." (making sure I note in his account that I informed him of this)

    Anyone want to take bets on whether this order goes through or not?

    By the way, we actually recently had such a bad problem with a scammer that for a few days every single order from the state of Mississippi had to be put on a fraud hold. The good thing about it is that we changed our verification policies so that the customer has to verify the address to us, which is really how it should have been all along.
    "Full price for gum?! That dog won't hunt, monsignor." - Philip J. Fry

  • #2
    Does his business sell, among other things, an obscure brand of specialized software? Because that guy sounds exactly like some of our sucky resellers.

    I mean how can anyone honestly think they can get instant unlimited credit just by placing a large order and asking to be billed later? Do they really think anybody who has been in business more than two days would be that dumb?

    Shakes head.
    The best karma is letting a jerk bash himself senseless on the wall of your polite indifference.

    The stupid is strong with this one.

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    • #3
      Hmm, maybe his business manufactures and sells latex. The address he gave me was their apartment. (sorry, I've just been waiting get in a Seinfeld reference)
      "Full price for gum?! That dog won't hunt, monsignor." - Philip J. Fry

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      • #4
        Quoth CurlyLocks View Post
        Hmm, maybe his business manufactures and sells latex. The address he gave me was their apartment. (sorry, I've just been waiting get in a Seinfeld reference)
        Vandelay Industries . . .?
        This area is left blank for a reason.

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        • #5
          The business is him and his brother working out of their apartment...and they have a "world headquarters"?
          I don't go in for ancient wisdom
          I don't believe just 'cause ideas are tenacious
          It means that they're worthy - Tim Minchin, "White Wine in the Sun"

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          • #6
            Yeah, their parent's basement.

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            • #7
              Quoth karma_gypsy View Post
              Vandelay Industries . . .?
              One of my favorite episodes!
              "Full price for gum?! That dog won't hunt, monsignor." - Philip J. Fry

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              • #8
                Quoth BookstoreEscapee View Post
                The business is him and his brother working out of their apartment...and they have a "world headquarters"?
                And what really made me laugh is that he kept saying Detroit, Michigan as though I would find that impressive. (sorry if there are any Detroit residents here)
                "Full price for gum?! That dog won't hunt, monsignor." - Philip J. Fry

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                • #9
                  Quoth FenigDurak View Post
                  Yeah, their parent's basement.
                  Damn skippy.
                  "In the end I was the mean girl/or somebody's in between girl"~Neko Case

                  “You don't need many words if you already know what you're talking about.” ~William Stafford

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                  • #10
                    Quoth CurlyLocks View Post
                    Detroit, Michigan as though I would find that impressive. (sorry if there are any Detroit residents here)
                    Nah, nothing much to do down there anyway. Besides people spouting their title, the city they work in, and saying what they'll do with your job is usually a sign of weakness in a argument.
                    The Grand Galactic Inquisitor hears all and sees all.

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                    • #11
                      On a sort of side note - I had a customer yell at me at the bookstore b/c the bookstore's "world headquarters" was NOT in NYC. It was Ann Arbor, Michigan. He said I was lying and all good companies headquarters are in NYC!!! Then he wanted to know why such a huge company would put their headquarters in Michigan.

                      "Because that was the first store they built, does it really matter WHERE it is?" I told him. At that, he left muttering. I'll never forget that.
                      If you are thinking to yourself, "Hmmm, should I post this?" it should probably go HERE.

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                      • #12
                        Quoth Luna View Post
                        He said I was lying and all good companies headquarters are in NYC!!!
                        Sheesh! We native New Yorkers are known to be proud of our hometown, but that's just...well, I don't know exactly what that is.
                        "Full price for gum?! That dog won't hunt, monsignor." - Philip J. Fry

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                        • #13
                          Heck, the company I work for is huge and well-known, and our corporate headquarters aren't even in a major city! We're out in the burbs!
                          "In the end I was the mean girl/or somebody's in between girl"~Neko Case

                          “You don't need many words if you already know what you're talking about.” ~William Stafford

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                          • #14
                            O/T

                            My co-workers and I sometime refer to our offices (a few rooms with a real estate agent on one side and a dentist on the other) as our "world headquarters." We are always joking around, though.

                            We also sometimes jokingly refer to our "New York Division:" Carl's apartment in New York City. He works from home.

                            Even more O/T

                            One of our previous "world headquarters" occupied a former tanning salon. They left all the tanning booth signs behind and we decided not to take them down becuase it was way too fun to refer to them:

                            "Hey! Where's the packing tape?"

                            "I think it's in Tahiti."

                            "Is Keith available?"

                            "Sorry. He's currently in Bimini."

                            Keith took that sign with him when we moved to our current location and we still call his office "Bimini."
                            Last edited by Dips; 03-27-2007, 02:01 PM. Reason: corrected error
                            The best karma is letting a jerk bash himself senseless on the wall of your polite indifference.

                            The stupid is strong with this one.

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                            • #15
                              Only good companies in NYC? I guess Wal-Mart (the richest company in the world, Sam Walton would have like $100 Billion now) is screwed.

                              Arkansas and all

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