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  • We didn't break the darned thing!

    I know what site I'm on, really I do. So it should come as no surprise to me that people today, are, by and large, not that big on taking responsibility for their own actions. That said, lately I've seen an EPIDEMIC of fire-breathing customers laying into me because THEY broke THEIR phone and there's nothing <red checkmark> can do for them....



    One and Done

    This guy, I felt bad for, to a POINT. He bought himself a shiny new Galaxy S6 and then had the misfortune to drop it and crack the screen THREE HOURS later. And what do you know? Mr. Genius did NOT get insurance on the phone. Of course that sucks and for awhile I had some sympathy for him, until he got progressively more angry and irate with me for not being able to do anything.

    - No, you can't return the phone.
    - Yes, I understand it's your first day.
    - No, it's not covered under warranty
    - No, you can't get a credit (ESPECIALLY not when we just handed you $300 for switching to us)
    - No, you can't add insurance now (that's kind of ILLEGAL)
    - No, you can't exchange the phone either
    - Yes, you CAN cancel your services with us but you're still on the hook for the cost of the phone.
    - No, you can't return the phone.
    - Yes, you can sell it online but don't expect to get much for it
    - No, we won't send you a check to cover the cost of repairs
    - No, the store can't fix it for you for free.
    - No, you can't return the phone.

    He FINALLY realized he wasn't going to get anywhere and gave up...but not before telling me to do something anatomically impossible.

    Double Whammy

    This was a fun one. This poor unfortunate soul had managed to break not one, but TWO phones and *sad trombone...* did NOT have insurance!!

    Oh but this gets better, he claims he did sign up for insurance when he got the phones...6 months ago. Our account notes show otherwise. So he starts going around and around with my rep while I'm listening (I was doing call observations at the time) about how he should have insurance and he needs to make a claim for these devices.

    She points out to him what our records show and even though we might have been able to fix the issue a couple of days or weeks after the fact, we're 6 months out. It's not OUR fault that you don't read your bills and apparently failed to notice you weren't being billed for any insurance. She tells him he can contact the manufacturer to get it repaired at a cost probably close to what the insurance deductible would be.

    They go around a few more times and he flies off the handle again. I walked over to my rep and asked her if, since this guy was obviously NOT taking the hint, she minded if I jumped in on the call and put a stop to this whole circle of insanity. She was fine with that.

    So, I hop on the call, identify myself and explain to the SC that everything my rep had told her was true and that there's really not much else we can offer in this instance.

    The SC FLIPS out on me when I revealed that I'd been listening on the call, telling me it is patently illegal to listen to his call without letting him know. I remind him of that automated recording that comes when you call us, the one that says "This calls MAY BE MONITORED for training or quality purposes", the one that practically EVERY FREAKING COMPANY HAS on their 800 number! Of course, that being the case, one should always expect a customer service call to potentially be recorded.

    So we went around again about the insurance thing and suddenly he mentions how frustrated he is with this whole call and how he just wanted to call us and get the phones replaced under insurance by paying $50 each.

    *record scratch* Wait, WHAT???

    You see back when phones were a lot less "smart" and a lot less expensive, $50 was the going rate for insurance replacements. Now, with high end smartphones going for over $1000, the average insurance deductible starts at about $200. This has been the case for at least the last 3 years if not longer.

    I explained this to him and he lit up like a Christmas tree, ranting, screaming, cussing. I told him to calm down and he told me to F off and hung up.

    Well, that was fun.

    I don't want to adult today...

    Another SC, another broken S6 (what is with these phones lately??). This guy was actually a couple of steps ahead of the other SCs because - ta da! - he actually HAD insurance...but he was flaming mad about having to pay a $200 deductible when he already pays so much for his phone and service each month, etc, etc.

    And away we go....

    - No, I can't waive the deductible
    - No, I can't give you a discount on it
    - No, I can't send you a Galaxy S5 (Definite WTF on this one, I don't know why he even tried it)
    - No you can't return the phone (This seems familiar...)
    - Yes, you CAN use the upgrade on your other line to get a phone
    - No, I won't waive the upgrade costs for you
    - Yes, you CAN cancel your services
    - No, I won't waive remaining balance on your SHARP plan
    - Because that's not how it works
    - That's not how it works.
    - That's not how it works.
    - No, I can't waive the deductible

    So after all this, the guy decides he's just going to port over to <Death Star Wireless>. He has three lines, all on SHARP plans, so by porting out he'll be setting himself up to eat close to $2000 in phone charges. The credit bureaus will be so thrilled with him if he doesn't pay that I'm sure.

    You must have a rabbit in that hat somewhere!

    Guy bought a Note 5 about five months ago and it won't power on. Ooh, that stinks. No worries through, he's still under warranty so we can take care of this. What's that? He wants a manager now? Huh?!

    As it turns out the guy was furious, not about the warranty claim but about the fact his phone would not power on and now he could not access all the "very important data" he had on there that he had apparently forgotten to back up.

    For the record, there is very little on a phone that can NOT be backed up with a little ingenuity. Photos, videos, call logs, text messages, memos, calendar entries. On and on, it can all be saved pretty easily if you know what you're doing.

    I had to explain to this guy FOUR times that, if the data was not backed up prior to the issue occurring, there was NO WAY to retrieve it. He just wouldn't understand that there is absolutely no way to get any information from a phone that won't TURN ON. (Tech sidenote: I know that's actually NOT true and with the right equipment and replacement parts the phone data MAY be retrievable but I'm sure as hell not about to go down that road with him).

    As if that was bad enough, he starts demanding compensation because he thinks its completely unacceptable that a phone he has had less than half a year is a glorified paperweight and <red checkmark> is somehow responsible for all this.

    Yes, I know it sucks when new toys stop working, but guess what? We're not the manufacturer, we're the service provider. You want compensation? Talk to the company that made your phone.

    Finally, FINALLY he got it through his head that he wasn't going to get anywhere and gave up.

    Not sucky, just odd...

    In the past two weeks we've had three calls from people wanting us to troubleshoot their laptops. Don't have a clue how that happened.
    Last edited by CrazedClerkthe2nd; 12-06-2015, 06:08 PM.
    "If we refund your money, give you a free replacement and shoot the manager, then will you be happy?" - sign seen in a restaurant

  • #2
    I've dropped my phone multiple times. It's a smartphone (abiet an old one) and NOT a Nokia brick. The battery and case back have gone flying, but the screen is untouched (I do have a screen protector on it to guard against scratches, but it doesn't have even a hint of a crack). I guess the company that made my phone decided NOT to use freaking GLASS in something that is HELD AT HEAD LEVEL AND MOVED AROUND A LOT. Whodathunk it?
    "I try to be curious about everything, even things that don't interest me." -Alex Trebek

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    • #3
      I have never broken a phone. My sweetie breaks his phone about once a year in very creative ways. How many people do you know who managed to drown their phone in their vest pocket?

      When he kills his phone, he never goes nuts on the person trying to help him, that would be very counter-productive. For some strange reason, being polite seems to get better results than screaming and shouting.

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      • #4
        Quoth CrazedClerkthe2nd View Post
        For the record, there is very little on a phone that can NOT be backed up with a little ingenuity. Photos, videos, call logs, text messages, memos, calendar entries. On and on, it can all be saved pretty easily if you know what you're doing.
        Honestly, there is very little on a phone that isn't automatically backed up without having to do a thing-except log in with your iCloud or Gmail account.

        Can you guess what my customers apparently never do? If you guessed "Log into an iColud or Gmail account on their device, you win a brand new bag of WTF!
        "She didn't observe the cardinal rule: Don't F**K with people who handle your food"
        -Ryan Reynolds in 'Waiting'

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        • #5
          Quoth Slave to the Phone View Post
          For some strange reason, being polite seems to get better results than screaming and shouting.
          I wish my customers would figure this out.

          Being polite isn't a guarantee that I'll be able to fix your problem, but I WILL be inclined to do whatever I can. If you're an antagonist, on the other hand, I guarantee that I will do nothing more for you than the absolute minimum that my job requires. And guess what? There is a great deal of difference between those two extremes.

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          • #6
            Quoth CyberLurch View Post
            Being polite isn't a guarantee that I'll be able to fix your problem, but I WILL be inclined to do whatever I can. If you're an antagonist, on the other hand, I guarantee that I will do nothing more for you than the absolute minimum that my job requires.
            This is human nature. Almost everyone responds better to polite and friendly behavior than they do to being treated like poop. Unless we own the business, we don't make the rules. Often we disagree with the rules, but we also like to pay the rent and buy food and are not willing to risk our jobs by breaking the rules.

            2 or 3 years ago, my sweetie did get a free phone after running his over. He knew that he'd done something pretty boneheaded and didn't expect the deductible to be waived. He laughed with the guy helping him about how he broke it. The guy helping him chose to escalate the issue. I don't know how high he took it, but he certainly went above and beyond.

            (My sweetie isn't good at writing legible letters, so I wrote one and sent it to corp as well as to the store saying how much we appreciated the guy's help and that the customer service we got helped to insure that we would stay loyal customers.)

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            • #7
              Quoth CrazedClerkthe2nd View Post
              - No, it's not covered under warranty
              back in the age of non-smartphone I worked for the checkmark, one of the first mp3 player phones came out, named after a type of candy. some guy was convinced that because both of his daughters had their screens break when they put the phones in their back pocket and sat down "it must be a design or materials issue and therefore covered by warranty"
              Honestly.... the image of that in my head made me go "AWESOME!"..... and then I remembered I am terribly strange.-Red dazes

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              • #8
                Every time I read these I keep thinking I've got to cancel TEP. At this point I'm due an upgrade anyway and that monthly fee isn't really needed on my first Gen SG4.
                But the paint on me is beginning to dry
                And it's not what I wanted to be
                The weight on me
                Is Hanging on to a weary angel - Sister Hazel

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                • #9
                  A while back my iPhone died. It was having battery issues (due to age - I'd had it a while!), and I took it in to be fixed, and they warned me beforehand that sometimes replacing the battery kills the phone. It was well out of warranty, too, so they wanted me to sign to say that if the worst happened and it died, I understood that I was not entitled to any sort of replacement.

                  Well, it was dying anyway, and I had pretty well everything backed up, so I shrugged and cheerfully said that I could live with that, signed the form and toddled off to shop while they performed electronic surgery.

                  I came back and it was dead as a doornail.

                  Me: (dramatically) "Noooooooo! Not my shiny toy!" *shrug* "Oh well, you warned me. Guess I need to buy a new one, huh?"

                  Apple Store Employee: "Actually, we're ordering in a replacement for you. Same model, but new - we'd hand it to you right now but we don't have that model in stock. We should have it tomorrow, if you come back around this time we can just switch over the SIM card and reload your backup."

                  Me: "Wow, really?! It's out of warranty and I signed the thing... are you sure?"

                  Apple Store Employee: "Yes, really."

                  Me: "THIS IS WHY I LOVE YOU GUYS."

                  I am 99.9% convinced that they gave me a new phone when they didn't have to because I didn't throw a fit at them. (Also possibly because I keep getting Apple products, and although they're lovely and reliable, when they do go wrong I get the weird hard-to-diagnose problems, and I never throw fits at the employees because dangit, they're trying to help!)

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                  • #10
                    Quoth Slave to the Phone View Post
                    2 or 3 years ago, my sweetie did get a free phone after running his over. He knew that he'd done something pretty boneheaded and didn't expect the deductible to be waived. He laughed with the guy helping him about how he broke it. The guy helping him chose to escalate the issue. I don't know how high he took it, but he certainly went above and beyond.
                    If only the general public could get a clue about this. It would also help if they would realize that sometimes, shit just happens. The wage slave behind the counter can't control it, the company that pays his salary can't control it. That's just life, and we all have to deal with such things. Screaming at the clerk at (store) isn't going to change anything. And some times, the things that happen are simple, honest mistakes.

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                    • #11
                      I put expensive smart phones in the hands of teenage boys. I really am impressed at the ways they've tried, and mostly failed, to kill their phones. My oldest got hit by a truck, but thanks to the awesomeness of OtterBox, the phone emerged with less damage than the kid (who wasn't very damaged). My middle kid got shoved into a pool (again, the day was saved by OtterBox). All three of the boys have dropped their phones down stairs or just on the floor, and they've all been known to body slam each other while their phones are in their pockets. Neither of the older two boys have managed to break a phone

                      You know who did break a phone? The 90 pound girl who I sometimes refer to as my bonus child. This tiny little scrap of nothing got mad and slammed her OtterBox enclosed phone down on a stone table, but missed and got the edge. The damned thing bent nearly in half. The other person who bent a phone was my 85 pound disabled youngest son. He got frustrated, clamped down on the top of the phone with his teeth and pushed the bottom up. It was in an OtterBox case and it still bent. Apple was so impressed that he was able to do that they replaced the phone for free. I wasn't so lucky with the girl's phone.
                      At the conclusion of an Irish wedding, the priest said "Everybody please hug the person who has made your life worth living. The bartender was nearly crushed to death.

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                      • #12
                        Quoth CrazedClerkthe2nd View Post
                        For the record, there is very little on a phone that can NOT be backed up with a little ingenuity. Photos, videos, call logs, text messages, memos, calendar entries. On and on, it can all be saved pretty easily if you know what you're doing.
                        And sometimes, there isn't.

                        I've got red checkmark. My (non-smart) phone is an old Samsung with the slide out keyboard (I text a lot).

                        It won't let me save my contacts list to the microSD card. Tells me that there's not enough memory available. Except that there's over 6 gig available on the card!

                        I've got to get hold of Samsung one of these days and point out that their programmers goofed. I'm fairly certain that the issue is that there's "too much" memory and the software is truncating the reported free memory reported to it. (A common problem with hard drives at one time)

                        And the only method for "backing up" text messages is to email them to yourself. But unlike my (much, much) older phone, it "emails" them via text messaging them to something that emails them. Which means that if the message is big enough the email address and other stuff that gets added makes the message exceed the 160 character limit, and you lose the last however many characters of the text.

                        The old Kyocera sent email via a different mechanism/protocol. So *it* didn't truncate stuff (but it didn't have a real keyboard either).

                        *sigh*

                        *Why* you can't just copy the texts to the microSD card, or copy them via USB to a PC I have no idea.

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                        • #13
                          Samsung Galaxy S4. Dropped it a few months ago at work and now cracked screen. Did a bit of swearing but at myself but in the end I'm still using it. No insurance and I have no idea what it would cost/who to contact about it. Can see just fine through the spiderweb cracks; it doesn't bother me... though I do worry about the durability/sensativity that comes with the damage.
                          Shop Smart. Shop S-Mart!

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                          • #14
                            If the guy doesn't understand the word deductible when it applies to a cell phone he's going to shit bricks when he damages his car or house.
                            Figers are vicious I tell ya. They crawl up your leg and steal your belly button lint.

                            I'm a case study.

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                            • #15
                              All these stories of destroyed phones.. even armored phones... and here I am with my five naked smart phones*, all of which have suffered falls (and landing screen-side-down at least once) and yet none of which have much more than scratches around the body--not even a on the screen. Three are still usable to this day--both batteries for the old Sidekick 3 are kaput, and the Dash has...dashed off to parts unknown--and two are actually in use (my dad inherited one of my old ones).

                              Makes me wonder if I just naturally gravitate toward more durable phones (possibly driven by my insistence upon a physical keyboard) or if I'm just that lucky. I was really worried when my Blackberry took a fall onto concrete and landed face down, but nada.

                              *Sidekick 3, T-Mobile Dash, Sidekick 4G, Galaxy S Relay, Blackberry Classic. Of which the 3 took the most spectacular spill and lost a piece, but some superglue fixed it right up.
                              Supporting the idiots charged with protecting your personal information.

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