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You know, I find it ironic that when M$ builds software into its OS, people scream blue murder, yet when Apple do it...
Well, there *is* a difference. If you wish, you can drag Mail, Safari, iTunes, etc to the trash, select "empty trash", and they're gone forever. I happen to like those, but easily deleted iDVD, iMovie, Keynote, GarageBand, etc for the disk space. Try removing Internet Explorer sometime. Which, by the way, you can't *get* a remotely recent version of for Macintosh anymore, so it's a good thing they did start including their own
I would suspect, without evidence in any direction, that Mac users would be smarter at least in that they'd know more about how to do what they want on their machines. Those who just know that they want a computer, but wouldn't know a Start button from a Firewire port, certainly don't know enough to care what OS the thing runs and are likely to get whatever their favorite store has that's cheap. The most basic Macintosh unquestionably costs more than the most basic Windows PC, and they're not easy to find in real stores (the nearest Apple Store to me is 1.5 hours away, in downtown Atlanta) so it's unlikely that someone who knows nothing about them bought one. Any idiot can think "I gots to get me one of them com-pew-tor things" and pick one up at Flor-Mart without a clue what it does or how to make it do it.
(and again, if you ask me what kind of computer you should get, don't act all shocked and angry when I recommend a Mac. And especially don't expect me to straighten out any mess on the Dell you bought instead. For that matter, I sell *hamburgers* for a living, why ask me what computer to get in the first place? Sorry, not quite relevant and I feel like I've posted this paragraph before at some point...)
edit: how nice, my posting time matches my avatar!
Bad
PC users.. People who want a cheap computer who have no clue how to operate one. "I wanna get on that internet thing. How do I do that?"
Worse
MAC users... People who want to be elitist, and since they own one, the world should bow to their feet.
Worst case scenario
Canadian MAC User... "Yeah, I want to know if my Palm pilot is windows based or Mac based.(palm handhelds are compatable with both PC and mac, save for the treo 700W, which is on windows mobile OS, and that sucks anyhow) I want to also load Adobe reader onto my Palm, but the windows disk won't work in my mac that has the adobe reader on it.(you have to download the reader for macs, it wasn't added for mac until recently, and the disks didn't have it available) Can you walk me through installing it?"(this proceedure took nearly an hour to get him to type in the website to download the program.)
I did not sell my soul to Satan. He does have a long term lease with the option to buy.
Most mac operators I met are the type that are afraid to even open the case without getting tech support.
Case in point, in one work environment, the DVD drive just wouldn't work on a G4. OSX showed no message about missing a drive, so they were going to call tech support.
I, on the other hand, shut the machine down, popped the side open, and rehooked the cable back into the DVD drive.
The person in charge was apparently horrified I did such a thing and told me I wasn't allowed to trouble shoot macs ever again in the office.
Mac users for the most part are unfamiliar with with song and dance of 'troubleshooting'. if something goes wrong with a PC, I have enough spare parts from past PC's to be able to trouble shoot a device and figure out on my own what I need to get serviced/replaced. In an office setting at least, mac users see an error and have to call a Network tech or a service tech.
I prefer the feel and psychology of Macs even as the differences diminish--the desktop is easier to use, for one thing
That can be emulated by Linux Of course, one has to find one's own hardware drivers, but that's part of the fun.
The majority of Mac users I had to deal with on campus were just sucky. When told that the particular computer they were using was not able to see the network printer (an issue that I, as a lowly lab aide, was not allowed to try and fix), you'd think I'd just said that their parents weren't paying their tuition anymore. Ye flipping gods, just save your work and move to a different computer which I have proven to you can print! Don't try to pull the "it'll take too long" card--you could have had your paper printed and be gone by now. If the same thing happened on one of the PCs, the student would save their work and move to a working computer without a peep. If there were no free PCs, I could use the workstudy computer to print it out for them.
The twit was a Mac user; I think her problem also had to do with the fact that she just would not listen. That, and/or she felt that Macs were no different from PCs.
MAC users... People who want to be elitist, and since they own one, the world should bow to their feet.
The twit was that too. I "didn't/couldn't understand" her because I used an "ugly computer that always seems to have something wrong with it" (kid, there are a lot of reasons why I didn't understand you, and they had nothing to do with computers)
I'm familiar with Macs, but prefer PCs as they're easily upgradeable.
Last edited by Dreamstalker; 08-17-2006, 06:48 PM.
"I am quite confident that I do exist."
"Excuse me, I'm making perfect sense. You're just not keeping up." The Doctor
Now with the whole apple using intel so you can dual boot windows or the mac os, I'm thinking of getting a mac for my next computer. I really liked using a mac in my classes, and the only reason I never got one before was I use my computer mostly for gaming.
I can't tell you how much i love the original question. Even better, i know the answer,
Last year i worked customer support of a pc helpline, this year, its apple customer support.
And without a doubt, Mac users are by far stupider, ruder and more ignorant and insulting then any of the callers i had to deal with on the pc helpline.
The lack of common sense shocks me on a daily basis, more so than ever on the pc helpline.
Neither are any dumber or suckier than the other. There is a difference between them however.
Mac SC users tend to be puffed up by their sense of self importance by owning a computer that is 4x more expensive than my PC yes has the same capabilities.
PC SC users are sucky because they don't know how to keep the machine running and bitch loudly when it fails.
Both SC'swill try to open a locked door before/after hours if they see people because it's the SC Credo to assume that if there are people in the building, the whole reason their parents procreated was to produce them for a life of servitude to the sucky customer trying to open the door. That's just entitlement plain and simple.
Mac SC users while they have a simpler operating system that a chimp and two garden slugs could figure out, do not seem to understand that not every piece of software and/or hardware in the universe works with their computer. "I know you loved Delorme's mapping software and GPS unit when you had a PC based laptop, but if they don't make a mac version, you're going to have to find one that is."
PC SC Users have a wider range of software and hardware options available to them, but they are frequently too stupid to be able to tell me what they need. "I need something to make my computer do this nifty thing I saw a computer do on a TV show last night." and then not be able to tell me what show, or even what the computer was doing on the show (other than it being pretty nifty).
Both types of SC's will call me up and tell me that "The aintar-web is broken." or "There's smoke coming out of my computer...is that bad?" or some other stupid thing.
Other than the sucktards out there in the computer world, there is no difference in attitude or numbers of SC users out there regardless of the type of computer they use.
MY take on the whole situation? Pick the computer you're comfortable with and enjoy it and let the rest of the OS/Computer warriors duke it out.
M
I never lost my faith in humanity. Can't lose what you never had right?
Having a husband who works in IT sometimes helps. In our office we now have 5 computers, an iMac, a dual 800 G4, and an I don't know the processor G5, and then the two PCs. I switch between them all depending on what I need. Don't view either as better than another. Some just do better jobs than others at doing what I want.
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