Karma, 'Tis a Beautiful Thing

[protege]

Was the cop ok?

Last I heard, he got seriously messed up, but survived. I don't know if he's still a trooper though--it wouldn't surprise me if he retired. How he survived, I have no idea--the newspaper said the wreck was pretty bad.

[Imogene]

Is it me, or have they revised the Miranda rights?

Rapscallion

What Miranda rights? That's only if they're being carted off to jail. The Officer's first reaction can be anything, so long as he's not just immediately cuffing the guy. As soon as the cuffs go on, that's when the Miranda rights need to be given.

[Andara Bledin]

What Miranda rights? That's only if they're being carted off to jail. The Officer's first reaction can be anything, so long as he's not just immediately cuffing the guy. As soon as the cuffs go on, that's when the Miranda rights need to be given.

Actually, they don't have to read your rights immediately when they cart you off to jail, only if they officially arrest you.

I know that, at least in California, that they can hold you for up to 48 hours for absolutely no reason whatsoever. But they have to either arrest you or let you go when that time is up. And things you say during that time can be used against you.

^-.-^

[ditchdj]

You know, I just had a thought about bad drivers since I've been on the receiving end of unwillingly just about every day. Does anyone realize that you really DO have a very good incentive to drive like a human being???? It's called "Lower Insurance Rates"!!!! You'd think that paying less for car insurance (actually MUCH LESS) alone would motivate people to drive safely! Take it from the horse's mouth. At one point with several tickets on record I paid $134 dollars a month for basic liability to insure my '94 Astro. My bill now with no tickets on file now and no accidents??? I now pay only $19 dollars a month to insure it! Trust ME: That $110 bucks I now save every freakin' month all gets put to damn good use!

Doing a little research I found that a DUI will double or even triple your insurance rates (if your carrier doesnt drop you and then you have to get special "High-Risk Insurance")

[Pezzle]

My bill now with no tickets on file now and no accidents??? I now pay only $19 dollars a month to insure it!

How in the bowels of satan do you have a 20 buck basic liability plan? Here 80 is AMAZING for liability + Minor Collision. And that's with a discount for good grades

[blas]

Hey now, leave Satan's bowels alone..........they don't have Pepto in Hell ya know!

My very good friend, same age as me, 20......just got his 3rd DUI on July 4. I was wondering where he'd been. It was as if he disappeared. I finally got a phone call this last Tuesday. He's out on work release during the day and has to go back to jail every night. He has to sit 60 days in jail for this one.

So his first DUI he got, he sat in jail for 12 hours and got a fine

His 2nd DUI he had to sit in jail 15 days and got another fine

This time around, 60 days and another fine

Does it look like fines and little jailtime stopped him from drinking and driving at all?

[UncleImpy]

If the cop 'sat around and shot the shit' with Aldous for a bit, and other cops had to be called to the accident, maybe he wasnt on duty?

Course, some drunken idiot rear ends you in a drive through, I wouldnt care of he WAS on duty in uniform...idiot deserved it What moron hits a COP? Unless you have very very very odd circumstances, the accident is GOING to be your fault!

[Irving Patrick Freleigh]

He pulls up drunker than Billy Joel at a New Year's Eve Party at a Guinness Factory.

I prefer "drunker than Lindsey Lohan on a regular night".

[DesignFox]

Remember Pezzle, we live in JERSEY.

We're one of the most densely populated states in the country (if we haven't hit #1 yet, but I don't remember)

Depending on how far north you are, the rates get worse.

Or of course, if you live in Jersey City, the car theft capital of the world....

I have a feeling rates are much lower out in the boonies...or anywhere...

[skeptic53]

Does anyone realize that you really DO have a very good incentive to drive like a human being???? It's called "Lower Insurance Rates"!!!! You'd think that paying less for car insurance (actually MUCH LESS) alone would motivate people to drive safely!

Hate to break this to you, but around here the idiot drivers bother less with purchasing insurance than they do with trying to maintain sobriety. It's state law you must have insurance but in some counties almost 35% of the drivers don't buy it at all. Care to guess the percentage of at-fault drivers in accidents who have no insurance? Guess away, 'cause I don't know the answer, but it's very high.

[BlackIronCrown]

So his first DUI he got, he sat in jail for 12 hours and got a fine

His 2nd DUI he had to sit in jail 15 days and got another fine

This time around, 60 days and another fine

Jaysus, what lax state is that?
Here in lovely GA, here are the penalties:

1st Offense: $300-1000 fine, 10 days to 12 months jail, 12 months probation, license suspended for one year, 40 hours of community service

2nd Offense: $600-1000 fine, 90 days to 3 months jail, 12 months probation, 30 days community service, 18 months license suspension

3rd Offense: $1000-5000 fine, 120 days to 12 months, 12 months probation, 30 days community service, license revoked for 5 years and you can pretty much forget having a license again unless you go through some pretty rigorous hoops.

GA judges tend to like hanging people, so you can usually expect 3-6 months of jailtime on the 1st, with the full max afterwards.

[ditchdj]

How in the bowels of satan do you have a 20 buck basic liability plan? Here 80 is AMAZING for liability + Minor Collision. And that's with a discount for good grades

Well here's what my insurance agent told me on the phone: For six months: $111 dollars to cover my '94 Astro and $262 to cover the 2003 Pontiac Grand Am that my wife just bought with $500 deductible collision. There's a ton of factors in calculating insurance rates. I can tell you right now that New Jersey pays the second highest rates for car insurance due to so many people filing claims there. As for me, I'm 32 with a clean driving record living in an Indiana hick town and my wife is 27 with a clean driving record as well and we also have those airbags as well as more than one car on the policy and we have house insurance through them as well.

[Andara Bledin]

Don't forget other factors that help reduce rates:

Married
Licensed for more than 8 years
Somewhat recent, but not new cars
Low-claim residence
Garage (don't know if you have one, but that makes it cheaper)
Multiple drivers/vehicles

I live in a fairly high/medium claim area, and my insurance was $32/month with me being married, 8+years licensed, late model car, and locking garage (blatant lie that most brokers will give you, for whatever reason).

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[Pezzle]

Ah damn. I'm single but taken, 19, been driving for three years with a license. I could only imagine trying to drive in Newark or Secaucus -shudder-. Makes me wish I were living in the barrens again..

[FuzzyKitten99]

'what the BLEEP is wrong with you? you have the BLEEPING right to remain BLEEPING silent, any BLEEPING dumbassed BLEEPING thing you say can be used against you...'

I'd love to hear that... but of course someone would whine that some sort of 'right' was violated. Nevermind that they broke a law (or several in some cases)...

I love this Chris Rock line in Lethal Weapon 4, one of my favorite movies:

"You have the right to remain silent. So shut the fuck up! You have the right to an attorney. If you can't afford an attorney, we will provide you with the dumbest fucking lawyer on earth! If you get Johnny Cochrane, I'll kill ya!!"