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    Hello! Been lurking for awhile now and finally decided to post. I work part-time as a Service Desk/Supervisor at a local hardware store. And I swear, the customers get stupider as time goes by. Some of these are a few years old, but still amaze me.

    My job is relatively simple: keep the cashiers in line, process refunds, exchanges and deliveries. Refunds policies equally simple: IF we still stock the item and its NOT discontinued and you HAVE a receipt, we'll take it back and refund it to the SAME method of payment. Doesn't have to be the same card, so a Visa purchase can to back to Mastercard, but it has to go back to credit. Refunds and exchanges are only done at my desk, which is right next to the front door. Of course, customers keep walking past and try to refund at the cashes...


    Crazy McPsycho Bitch

    This lady wanted to return a box of flooring. Bought in 2004. She had her receipt, but the flooring wouldn't scan (usually means either discontinued long ago or not our product). Call flooring and BAM, discontinued right after she bought it. I tell her I can't refund it as we no longer stock the item, and she flips. Not just at me, but at my co-worker next to me, my supervisor, AND her daughter (mid 20's) who's telling her just to keep the flooring. We called management, who said we could refund it under a dummy sku for $10 then throw it out. Lady would not accept that as she paid $35 for it. She spent at least a half hour swearing at us and demanding satisfaction (always makes me want to beat my head off a wall). At the end of it, there was the three of us behind the counter, 2 male staff, our Assistant Manager AND our head of security standing behind her. She was escorted out of the store with her flooring, never to be seen again.



    All cashes are open what you say?

    Busy Saturday. All 6 cashes were on with lineups. This one lovely woman decides to yell at the cashier about how its all her fault that it's busy. Shakes up the cashier so rattled she accidently hits a wrong button on our touch screen debit. Cashier runs off her cash IN TEARS to get me (was next to the office talking to a manager). BOTH managers on that day take her into the office to calm her down, leaving me to deal with the customer. I grab an admin card to fix the mistake and head to the cash. The woman starts yelling at me for how stupid the girl was for making a mistake. I fix the mistake, turn to her and snap.

    "She is NOT stupid and she did NOT make that mistake on purpose. These machines are sensitive and can put in wrong information themselves. It is NOT her fault its busy and you are out of line. Here's your receipt now get out of the store"

    Management received a complaint about me for that but essentially told the lady to screw off. They were so mad about how upset she made the girl, who ended up having an asthma attack in the office.


    But Debit and cash are the same...

    Yes, cash and debit can be considered the same. However, you pay for something in debit, its going back on your card.

    So of course, guy returns a bunch of product. He has all his receipts, and it comes to several hundred dollars. He paid debit for all of it, and wants it back in cash. Kicks up a stink and I call management, who comes down and tells him debit or nothing. I love management


    Part of my job also involves working the switchboard upstairs, where I always get the stupid customers.

    Me: Thank you for calling Random Hardware, Kitsune speaking.
    SC: .. Is this Random Hardware?
    Me:... yes
    SC: Finally, no ones been answering me calls!! (longest wait time normally is 30 seconds *IF* there's a call on another line) Tell me the prices on your fridges now!
    Me: I'm sorry we don't sell fridges
    SC: Yes you do dammit!
    Me: I'm sorry, we don't sell any appliances. Perhaps you were thinking of Other Store that Does
    SC: No I'm not you're lying! Give me that department now!
    Me: I'm sorry I can't as we don't sell appliances
    SC: Give me a manager right now!
    Me: One moment please

    5 minutes later: Manager: My brain hurts...

    And more often then not:
    Customer: Oh, you're open?

    No.. we like to have people sitting here at all times for fun. In fact, I love being in a huge store by myself after hours!


    I've also on more then one occasion had to kick customers out of the store for forcing open the exit doors AFTER the store was closed (and the entrance door locked) to go shopping. They admitted that yes, the door was closed, yes the entrance lights were off, but they NEEDED X item right now! (being 15 minutes after close). Honestly people, we have store hours for a reason. I'm not kicking you out because we don't want customers, I'm kicking you out because the cashiers who've been here for 9 hours need to count their trays, and I can't leave until everything is balanced. We're open 13 hours a day (14 for contractors), it's not that hard to come here. In fact, we're had the SAME STORE HOURS for 10 years. There are other stores open after we are, go there!

  • #2
    Quoth Kitsune View Post
    Me: I'm sorry we don't sell fridges
    SC: Yes you do dammit!
    Me: I'm sorry, we don't sell any appliances. Perhaps you were thinking of Other Store that Does
    SC: No I'm not you're lying! Give me that department now!
    I think this is a fairly common occurence in customer service, particularily with the phone trolls among us. I don't get it.

    I feel like saying to the customer.

    "It's one of If you're SO certain that we sell appliances, why don't YOU tell me what the prices are for the refridgerators?"
    Just because a customer expects you to put some effort into your job, that does not make them an SC.

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    • #3
      Oh I get the similar phone calls to you
      me-"i'm sorry, I don't have any availability, would you like me to check our sister properties"
      guest- "yes, if you could check the hilton/merriot/best western/insert name of chain"
      me- "i'm sorry, that's not one of our sister properties, I can only check the other (insert intercontinental hotels group brand) in the area"
      guest- "well, then you really aren't much good"

      ...umm, excuse me, i've done more than 90% of the chains will do, I've offered to check other locations in our chain.

      Or my other favorite
      guest- "why can't you price match (same list of hotels above)"
      me- "because they don't have the same amenities as us, and they aren't in as desirable a location"
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      • #4
        Actually the are you open question isn't too unreasonable, I've worked in a pizzeria where we'd answer the phone while setting up, and that could be as much as an hour before opening, occasionally more when we had a big order to do, and have worked at other stores where the phones start getting answered when there's people in the store to answer them, regardless of the store hours.
        Seph
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        "You're supposed to be the head of covert intelligence. Right now, I'm not seeing a hell of a lot of intelligence. Covert, overt, or otherwise!"-Lochley, B5, A View from the Gallery

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        • #5
          Quoth smileyeagle1021 View Post
          Oh I get the similar phone calls to you
          me-"i'm sorry, I don't have any availability, would you like me to check our sister properties"
          guest- "yes, if you could check the hilton/merriot/best western/insert name of chain"
          me- "i'm sorry, that's not one of our sister properties, I can only check the other (insert intercontinental hotels group brand) in the area"
          guest- "well, then you really aren't much good"

          ...umm, excuse me, i've done more than 90% of the chains will do, I've offered to check other locations in our chain.

          Or my other favorite
          guest- "why can't you price match (same list of hotels above)"
          me- "because they don't have the same amenities as us, and they aren't in as desirable a location"

          I get that too; we can do store searches for items and sizes we don't have in our store...so we do the search, and then it lists ALL stores in the state (or region) or whatever parameter you choose that has the item in question, plus if the catalog has it. SOmetiems customers will ask if a particuoarl store has it, and if it comes up in the search, great, but if it doesn't, IT MEANS THAT STORE DOESN"T HAVE IT!!!So i will say to the customer, these stores have x item, as well as the catalog. Now, if i DON'T mention the closer stores, they don't have it, but they will always ask me "does store x have it? Did you not hear me? no, if they did, i would ahve told you so!

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          • #6
            We'd get people occasionally calling the Record Store looking for amps, strings, or other accessories that we didn't carry. Only had a few people try the "Yes you do" tack, to which we'd invariably reply "We are quite confident in our knowledge of what we do and do not carry, and that is not something we carry," then just hang up.

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            • #7
              Quoth Kitsune View Post
              I've also on more then one occasion had to kick customers out of the store for forcing open the exit doors AFTER the store was closed (and the entrance door locked) to go shopping. They admitted that yes, the door was closed, yes the entrance lights were off, but they NEEDED X item right now! (being 15 minutes after close).

              Something like that might actually worry me a bit. I see someone trying to force their way into my store after close - the words "Thief" or "Intruder" come to mind.
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              • #8
                Quoth Catwoman2965 View Post
                I get that too; we can do store searches for items and sizes we don't have in our store...so we do the search, and then it lists ALL stores in the state (or region) or whatever parameter you choose that has the item in question, plus if the catalog has it. SOmetiems customers will ask if a particuoarl store has it, and if it comes up in the search, great, but if it doesn't, IT MEANS THAT STORE DOESN"T HAVE IT!!!So i will say to the customer, these stores have x item, as well as the catalog. Now, if i DON'T mention the closer stores, they don't have it, but they will always ask me "does store x have it? Did you not hear me? no, if they did, i would ahve told you so!
                my other favorite variation is when they ask if I have any availability, and I apologize and say I have nothing available for that night... then they ask, oh, well do you have any suites then... background, I get performance bonuses based on how many rooms I book, so trust me, if I had any room left to book, be it a suite or a broom closet, I will try to get you to book it.
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                • #9
                  Quoth Kitsune View Post
                  Management received a complaint about me for that but essentially told the lady to screw off. They were so mad about how upset she made the girl, who ended up having an asthma attack in the office.
                  At this, I would call the cops for harrassment and for public disturbance. No one has the right to treat someone like that. On the other hand, pussies who don't stand up for themselves by doing such things as taking legal action like that, it's tough to think it's not their fault either. Plus, I nblame the other customers for not telling her to shut up or insult her.

                  But that's just me cause I love to burn SC's when I see em It's so great to see them turn red. I hope one day I can give them a heart attack.
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                  • #10
                    Quoth Alpha Strike View Post
                    Something like that might actually worry me a bit. I see someone trying to force their way into my store after close - the words "Thief" or "Intruder" come to mind.

                    Yeah. Thing is, these doors will open from the inside, and as long as there are customers still in the store, we leave them unlocked so they CAN open from the inside. Of course, as they're unlocked for one-way traffic, people can still push them open, which knocks them off the track.

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                    • #11
                      Quoth Kitsune View Post
                      Crazy McPsycho Bitch

                      This lady wanted to return a box of flooring. Bought in 2004. She had her receipt, but the flooring wouldn't scan (usually means either discontinued long ago or not our product). Call flooring and BAM, discontinued right after she bought it. I tell her I can't refund it as we no longer stock the item, and she flips. Not just at me, but at my co-worker next to me, my supervisor, AND her daughter (mid 20's) who's telling her just to keep the flooring. We called management, who said we could refund it under a dummy sku for $10 then throw it out. Lady would not accept that as she paid $35 for it. She spent at least a half hour swearing at us and demanding satisfaction (always makes me want to beat my head off a wall). At the end of it, there was the three of us behind the counter, 2 male staff, our Assistant Manager AND our head of security standing behind her. She was escorted out of the store with her flooring, never to be seen again.
                      Sorry for the long quote (boldface is my emphasis), but for customers who "demand satisfaction", the proper answer would be "Of course you realize that as the challenged party, I have certain priveleges - your second can explain them". For those not familiar with (the obsolescent, and illegal for over a century in all jurisdictions in North America, custom of) dueling, the traditional challenge is "I demand satisfaction", and the challenged party has the choice of weapons.
                      Any fool can piss on the floor. It takes a talented SC to shit on the ceiling.

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                      • #12
                        Quoth Kitsune View Post

                        I've also on more then one occasion had to kick customers out of the store for forcing open the exit doors AFTER the store was closed (and the entrance door locked) to go shopping.
                        Would that be considered breaking and entering, or does that only apply if the store is completely closed, i.e. no customers inside?

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                        • #13
                          Quoth wolfie View Post
                          Sorry for the long quote (boldface is my emphasis), but for customers who "demand satisfaction", the proper answer would be "Of course you realize that as the challenged party, I have certain priveleges - your second can explain them". For those not familiar with (the obsolescent, and illegal for over a century in all jurisdictions in North America, custom of) dueling, the traditional challenge is "I demand satisfaction", and the challenged party has the choice of weapons.
                          Now that would have been funny had you challenged her to a duel.

                          Wonder what her choice of weapons would be? Her mouth wouldn't count.
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                          • #14
                            But it wouldn't be up to the SC to choose weapons - by stating "I demand satisfaction", the SC is challenging the retail worker to a duel, so it's the worker who gets the choice. My earlier post was a (hypothetical) response to the SC accepting the challenge (which the SC issued through a poor choice of words) without explicitly using the word "duel".
                            Any fool can piss on the floor. It takes a talented SC to shit on the ceiling.

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                            • #15
                              Quoth Chrono180 View Post
                              Would that be considered breaking and entering, or does that only apply if the store is completely closed, i.e. no customers inside?
                              Well, considering that they are forcing the doors open, I would vote yes, but then I could be wrong...
                              I don't go in for ancient wisdom
                              I don't believe just 'cause ideas are tenacious
                              It means that they're worthy - Tim Minchin, "White Wine in the Sun"

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