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    I work at a furniture manufacturer. I work with customers to design custom products that are things we can manufacture, then quote and draw them. Most quotes are 1-3 offices. (Just as an FYI our customers are not actual end users, but rather interior designers, or in this case, an interior designer that is acting as a furniture dealer.)

    12-28-06. 20 months ago. A customer started working with us on a large project, 27 offices. When the quote first started there were only 4 different layouts. There were multiple copies of those 4 layouts.
    The quote was revised on 1-4-07 to make some changes.
    And 1-5-07
    And 5-8-07
    And 5-14-07

    On 12-3-07 it was revised again, but this time it was completely scrapped and we started from scratch. We individually laid out the plan for each of the 27 offices in the quote, and I generated AutoCAD drawings of each of the 27 offices in 3D.

    Then it got revised on 12-12-07
    And 12-20-07
    And 1-23-08
    And 1-31
    And 2-8

    That is TEN revisions, including one complete start from scratch.

    On 7-16 they did ANOTHER start from scratch. This time for only two offices.

    Almost TWO YEARS from the first time we worked on this, and TEN revisions, and now they tell us that we are only going to get TWO offices.

    So, I do the quote for the two offices.

    I get an e-mail the next day with a minor change, so they get another revision on 7-16.
    And 7-18
    And 7-28.

    I come in this morning to find an e-mail that was sent at 8pm last night.

    "We need to change the spec. They want it quoted in two different lines, and with three different shape options for each of the two offices. This must be done by 10am."

    I BLEW A GASKET.

    I sent out the following e-mail. I copied my boss, my bosses boss, the VP of sales, and our local manufacturers rep.

    "[SC]
    While I understand that you are under a time crunch to get this completed, I need you to know that not only is it not possible to have this done by 10am, it is not reasonable to ask for it in such a time frame.

    This quote began being quoted over 20 months ago. That is almost two years. It has gone thru FIFTEEN different revisions, including two complete starts from scratch (not counting the first quote which is always from scratch). After reviewing the coversheets for the quotes, out of the 15 revisions you have requested, 12 were requested to be done within one business day. Our average turn around for a normal quote is 48 hours, and this is approximately 5X larger than a normal quote, yet 12 times we have gone the extra distance and dropped everything and rushed to complete your quote request.

    That time has come to an end.

    You have consumed every resource here 12 times over two years, and are now doing so for a TWO office quote. That is unreasonable.

    I refuse to prioritize this quote ahead of other quotes. I refuse to make it a Rush. I refuse to work late to complete it.

    We currently have a larger than normal backlog of quotes. The estimated time that I will BEGIN working on your quote would be Friday, however I am out of the office Friday and Monday (for a well deserved vacation). That means I will BEGIN working on your quote next week Tuesday.

    However, I will make a concession. You are currently asking for two offices, quoted 6 different ways (three shapes x two product lines = 6). That makes a total of 12 different layouts. If you will lower that number from 12 down to either TWO or FOUR then I will agree to have these complete before I leave for my vacation on Thursday evening. However, I MUST receive a detailed response as to which product lines and which shapes you would like before close of business today to make that happen.

    I am awaiting your response as to what you would like.

    Bob"

    I sent that e-mail and went to get a cup of coffee. I planned on being yelled at for such a harsh response, and wanted caffeine in me for that.

    I got back to my desk and had an e-mail from the VP of sales. He replied to all, and addressed the message to the SC.

    "[SC], asking for 12 layouts is unreasonable. Trim back your selection to 2-4 layouts per bob's request.

    [Bob] I know that you have other projects you are working on. If you are not capable of completing the 2-4 layouts prior to your vacation, then I'm sure they can explain to their customer that such an old request is not reasonable to expect rushed. "


    Sometimes I love my job.

  • #2
    That's awesome! I love management that backs the employees...
    "I'm still walking, so I'm sure that I can dance!" from Saint of Circumstance - Grateful Dead

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    • #3
      Quoth friendofjimmyk View Post
      That's awesome! I love management that backs the employees...
      Not just Management, but the Vice-President of Sales. That's Top Of The Food Chain time.
      ...WHY DO YOU TEMPT WHAT LITTLE FAITH IN HUMANITY I HAVE!?! -- Kalga
      And I want a pony for Christmas but neither of us is getting what we want OK! What you are asking is impossible. -- Wicked Lexi

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      • #4
        Dang you guys must have stocked up on pwnage.

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        • #5
          Nice! You must must must follow up with the SC's reply.

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          • #6
            Awesome.

            Ahhhh, CAD drawings. I find them fun, but like you and my father, I don't think I could use it for a living...
            "...Muhuh? *blink-blink* >_O *roll over* ZZZzzz......"

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            • #7


              My brain began screaming as I was reading your post, Bob. I HATE clients who act like that. It does my heart good to hear of one who finally gets their just desserts. I could hug you right now!!
              Certifiable Interior Designer
              (Passed the NCIDQ Exam - Summer 2008)

              It's hard to shoot zombies with a cat on your lap!

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              • #8
                Quoth JustADude View Post
                Not just Management, but the Vice-President of Sales. That's Top Of The Food Chain time.
                I'm a little surprised. With as big a project as that, and the amount of money it would bring in, it wouldn't have surprised me to see him doing whatever he could to save that sale.
                Knowledge is power. Power corrupts. Study hard. Be evil.

                "I never said I wasn't a horrible person."--Me, almost daily

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                • #9
                  Glad you have management to back you up! That rocks!

                  And I know your pain.

                  3pm on Wed.
                  "Bandit, I need 5 systems quoted. Each with VoIP, TDM, and both versions as both upgrades and as net-new. Oh - and also quote both versions with and without networking. This is for an RFP that is due noon on Friday. Sorry I forgot to tell you earlier. I just found this request after my 2-month vacation in Europe...."

                  </threadjack>

                  B
                  "Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."- Albert Einstein.
                  I never knew how happy paint could make people until I started selling it.

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                  • #10
                    Quoth Irving Patrick Freleigh View Post
                    I'm a little surprised. With as big a project as that, and the amount of money it would bring in, it wouldn't have surprised me to see him doing whatever he could to save that sale.
                    It was a big order, 20 rooms, now its average, 2 rooms, after they changed their minds for the umpteenth time. And from the feel of it, they'd probably just dump them completely anyway when the 12 versions weren't to their liking either, after giving their own specs.
                    "If you find yourself fantasizing about throwing actual users into a blender, please get help... they're heavy." - Tom Dickson

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                    • #11
                      You and your company needs a big compensation from these people. Granted, I don't know if this is usual for your business.
                      Time! Time! Time is what turns kittens into cats.

                      Don't teach me a lesson; all I learn is that you are an asshole.

                      I wish porn had subtitles.

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                      • #12
                        Man what a bunch of asses. But yeah for the back up from management. Keep us updated.
                        Am I sad because I am looking forward to the day when the people I will be dealing with will no longer be able to talk back?

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                        • #13
                          Oh yeah I am DYING to know what the SC says, muwahahaa...
                          By popular request....I am now officially the Enemy of Normalcy.

                          "What is unobtainium? To Seraph, it's a normal client. :P" -- Observant Friend

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                          • #14
                            Quoth Seraph View Post
                            Oh yeah I am DYING to know what the SC says, muwahahaa...
                            I agree! You'll have to share any response the SC has to that email!
                            "500 bucks, that's almost a million!"
                            ~Curly from the 3 Stooges

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                            • #15
                              Quoth Irving Patrick Freleigh View Post
                              I'm a little surprised. With as big a project as that, and the amount of money it would bring in, it wouldn't have surprised me to see him doing whatever he could to save that sale.
                              With as much time as has been spent on it I wouldn't be surprised to learn that they may be breaking even on it even if they pulled in the money for the original sale.

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