Yes, of course we sell date rape drugs.

[chantal]

Yeah, all sex shops over here sell them. You certainly can't knock someone out with them..they just make you light-headed and want to dance

Fair enough, but I'm still not comfortable with the thought of people using them on another person without consent. It would be similar to getting someone drunk and then sleeping with them, wouldn't it? Your inhibitions are lowered and you wouldn't do stuff that you would in a clear state of mind. And in Canada, that amounts to rape.

[friendofjimmyk]

A sex shop manager had never heard of poppers? How peculiar. Like hecubus said, poppers are little vials of amyl nitrate. You sniff the stuff and its supposed to give you a big rush instantly. They are hardly rape drugs.

You can still buy them in lots of sex shops in Soho. I think they are actually illegal over here, though, most places that sell them cover their backs by saying they are not for inhalation.

Yeah, and "oil incense burners" are really for oil. And those funky metal pipes with the trippy designs are meant for tobacco and those tall things with the hoses sticking out of them - those are for tobacco too!

I think I've done these "poppers" things in high school - it was called "rush".

[Barefootgirl]

Where exactly did the bit about non-consent come in? All the guy said was, "You take them to club to get girls" (presumably in a Borat-type accent!). You could NOT use poppers as a means of inebriating someone - the effect doesn't last that long and it isn't that strong. It certainly isn't the same as plying someone with five martinis.

Because you and your manager didn't know what it was, you both jumped to the conclusion that its some kind of date rape substance, which it absolutely isn't. Yes, its illegal, but it would be extremely difficult, if not impossible, to use amyl nitrate to force someone to do something against their will. It simply doesn't work that way, and its effects wear off pretty fast. To me, the "get girls" bit sounds more like how you would "get" a girl wearing nice cologne, or offering a drink, or driving a flashy car, rather than "get" them in the Ted Bundy sense. Of course, you were there and I wasn't, so perhaps I have read it totally wrong.

Yeah, and "oil incense burners" are really for oil.

I burn oil in mine....

*is old and sad*

[chantal]

Where exactly did the bit about non-consent come in? All the guy said was, "You take them to club to get girls" (presumably in a Borat-type accent!)...of course, you were there and I wasn't, so perhaps I have read it totally wrong.

Oh yes, there was definite Borat accent But you're right in that it's entirely possible that we read him wrong and he wasn't actually a potential rapist, just an insanely creepy man looking for...poppers. Bear in mind that I wasn't even BORN in the early 80's and have never heard of these before. They sound...sketchy.

[Fera Festiva]

Yeah, all sex shops over here sell them. They're legal to be sold as "room odourisers" though, and not allowed to be sold for inhalation (although of course thats what everyone uses them for). You certainly can't knock someone out with them..they just make you light-headed and want to dance

Although why you'd want to "odourise" a room with them is anyone's guess - when I was young and stupid a "friend" convinced me to try them, and the only effect I got was a sudden desire to vomit copiously...

Cheese - I just noticed you're in Brighton - me too! Did you know we (apparently) have more sex shops per square mile than anywhere else in the UK?

[MystyGlyttyr]

I actually have heard roofies referred to as poppers before by some of the other wrestlers I've hung out with in the past. Some of the guys would actually buy roofies and take them themselves, then try to stay awake long enough to get a little rush right before they passed out. I never did myself because that was the dumbest thing I ever saw, but they did. But I heard them called roofies, roofers, poppers, D.D.'s, circles, La Rochas, MinEx, and Roos.

Depending on how old the guy is, he could be referring to either one. If he was an older gentleman, he might have meant the gassy stuff, but if he were a younger guy he probably did mean roofies.

Either way, why would he think they would be at a sex shop? Either one is a DRUG. The only drugs I'd see having in a sex shop is birth control or Viagra.

[friendofjimmyk]

I burn oil in mine....

*is old and sad*

It's sad that I am all too familiar with the alternate uses!

[cheese]

Cheese - I just noticed you're in Brighton - me too! Did you know we (apparently) have more sex shops per square mile than anywhere else in the UK?

Haha, thats very very believable. Not that I've ever been to any, obviously

Poppers aren't adate rape drug at all - the effects last less than a minute. Although of course, thats enough for some guys

And he'd think they'd be at a sex shop because..thats where they're generally sold. Over here, anyway. That or gay clubs/bars.

[Barefootgirl]

I'm just worried by the idea of having to go to a sex shop to buy birth control !!

[friendofjimmyk]

I'm just worried by the idea of having to go to a sex shop to buy birth control !!

Wha? Huh? Whatchu talkin' bout? I know they sell condoms in sex shops - but what other kind of b/c are you speaking of?

[friendofjimmyk]

Okay, I'll give y'all a piece of advice.

As you may or may not know, I am a recovering drug addict, I've been clean since 1/29/05.

There's a date rape drug out there called "G" - it's GHB and it knocks you the hell out - period. You're done for awhile.

I used to do this drug for fun. I know, that's bad...but if I can pass along one piece of advice to those who think they may have been slipped some "G" in a club - get some sugar. Even if it's eating packets of sugar that all bars/restaurants have - munch on anything laden with sugar and it neutralizes the effects of GHB. I've had to use sugar on the many occasion where I took too much. In my case, it was an instant buzz kill - but in the case of those who don't use it recreationally - it can save your life.

Disclaimer - This is only for the date rape drug "G" - I don't know what works on roofies or other "date rape" drugs.

The effects of "G" are very similiar to being EXTREMELY drunk. You know you have been "G'd" if you all of a sudden feel REALLY REALLY DRUNK and you know you haven't had that much to drink. If you are in a club situation and you start to feel as if everything is going out of control - like you have had too much to drink - get to a safe location - QUICKLY - as the effects of G comes on VERY FAST!

[Auto]

not a rapist, poppers don't incapacitate you, they lower blood pressure and relax involuntary muscles.


that or he really did need to clean his VCR

This is correct.

Poppers are a caustic, alcohol-ly smelling liquid that comes in a little jar (often labled video head cleaner). You unscrew the top and put the bottle under your nose and inhale. In a few seconds you get a head rush that last about 20-30 seconds. They make sex even more fun, in part because they lower your inhibitions.

Once the rush passes, that's it. It's over -- no lasting effects, no hang over, nothing.

The only danger is that by dilating your blood vessals your blood pressure is dratically lowered. (poppers were once used for people with heart trouble.) I had a doctor who told me that in the 1950s, you couldn't go to a cardiologist's house for a drink without being offered a snort of poppers. (Doctors loved to play with poppers.)

But they're very definitely not a date rape drug.

[friendofjimmyk]

This is correct.They make sex even more fun, in part because they lower your inhibitions.

Well, I don't see how much more fun they could make sex if they only induce a high that last 20 - 30 seconds! So, your inhibitions are lowered for a short period of time, 20 - 30 seconds isn't enough time to whip out the toys and crank it up a notch! 20 - 30 seconds is long enough to THINK that you may want to try some freaky stuff, but by the time you get ready to start - the high is gone. Then what? Inhale more? Then you get a headache and quite possibly puke! Good times!

[zelper]

Well, I don't see how much more fun they could make sex if they only induce a high that last 20 - 30 seconds! So, your inhibitions are lowered for a short period of time, 20 - 30 seconds isn't enough time to whip out the toys and crank it up a notch! 20 - 30 seconds is long enough to THINK that you may want to try some freaky stuff, but by the time you get ready to start - the high is gone. Then what? Inhale more? Then you get a headache and quite possibly puke! Good times!

I can understand you not wanting to use them yourself. That's perfectly ok. But you are making assumptions on what amyl nitrate does and how a person responds to it. Again, fair enough to ask questions if you are curious. But in this post you have made assertions which are incorrect. And that is irresponsible. Unless you know what a drug does it's best not to make wild statements about it. Whether that be amyl nitrate or aspirin.

[kibbles]

Why is it irresponsible to make assertions about what a drug does? No one is assuming this post to be medically accurate, this is not a medical site. I wouldn't worry 'bout it

Kibbles