The last thread cursed me (Long)

[Crossbow]

It's a chicken.

No it isn't! It's not bright orange and riding a scooter!

Ah, hell. Yeah, it's a chicken.

[Enjis]

No it isn't! It's not bright orange and riding a scooter!

Ah, hell. Yeah, it's a chicken.

lol! Thank goodness I'm not the only one who sees this as a chicken......

[Andara Bledin]

... A giant, headless chicken... >_>

^-.-^

[Mongo Skruddgemire]

Oh brother. Today is being one of those days! I just now got a "That's too expensive" too. From somebody who claims to also make plushes! They should know how much work this is, and how expensive the supplies are! Srsly!

I'm mean. I'd reply "Well then if you make plushies then why in the name of Zeus's sweaty ball sack are you looking at my website? Either you want something made in which I have to ask why you aren't making it yourself or you're looking at prices to which I'd have to say 'set your own goddamned prices and shut the hell up about mine.'"

But I'm an asshole with a low moron tolerance.

[Flying Grype]

The fact that he said he'd give you $X up front and then later said he'd give you $X-Y up front? I think you should charge him $X+Y up front, because you already know he's going to be a deadbeat about it.

[Crossbow]

Oh, a plush spaceship... What a brilliant idea! *goes to rummage through old space game JPEGs*

If we're going to go into plushie spaceships, here's the one I'd want:
http://well-of-souls.com/gallery/ima..._render800.jpg


(Ok, the FIRST one I'd want...)

[spark]

Heh. The problem with most of these ships is that they're FULL Of fiddly little design details that really wouldn't translate well into plush...

[dalesys]

Heh. The problem with most of these ships is that they're FULL Of fiddly little design details that really wouldn't translate well into plush...

... so run them through a few cycles of washer + dryer ...

Whatever's left should be plushable.

[Crossbow]

Heh. The problem with most of these ships is that they're FULL Of fiddly little design details that really wouldn't translate well into plush...

Yeah, I know. A lot of the detail would have to be printed onto the fabric, which would pretty much kill making them out of minky or other such material.

[Andara Bledin]

A Shadow ship wouldn't have a lot of fiddly details to deal with. Just lots and lots of spiny bits.

^-.-^

[Mongo Skruddgemire]

I think it could be done without too many fiddly bits. Do you think you could do the EAS Agamemnon?

[Rapscallion]

If we're going to go into plushie spaceships, here's the one I'd want:
http://well-of-souls.com/gallery/ima..._render800.jpg


(Ok, the FIRST one I'd want...)

Shame that webcomic doesn't update more often. Great reading.

Rapscallion

[spark]

I think it could be done without too many fiddly bits. Do you think you could do the EAS Agamemnon?

I think maybe your definition of fiddly bits and mine are VERY different if you think that doesn't have many.

Every object that sticks out from the hull, every vent that decorates it, all the little knobbly things and turrets and ALL that... I mean how would I even start? I can't possibly detail all that, and by the time I simplified it down to shapes I *can* make it would just a low-poly outline and wouldn't really look much like the ship, you know?

Here is a ship without fiddly bits: http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-YECmGIDqqF...iancruiser.jpg

In fact, let me elaborate further. Here's a commercially made Millenium Falcon plush: http://www.starwarstoybox.com/762-17...cle-pillow.jpg

Notice that actually it's just a crude outline of the ship, with some fiddly bits printed on it. Now consider that I don't have any kind of setup to print on fabric. So picture that, in plain gray, no other details. Suddenly it's not much of a plush. That's what a "done by me" plush version of a spaceship would look like. Well. I'd use nicer fabric and I could add *some* detail to it, probably the big dish, the drive glow, and maybe the cabin windows could be sewn accurately, more or less, but most of the ship would be a featureless blank. It would look totally unlike a ship.

[Merriweather]

Oh my god, you don't owe this clown any explanations of your prices whatsoever!
It sounds like he's just pestering you endlessly with no intention of ever buying. He's also testing you to see if your boundaries are flexible. Ugh!

Never, ever, justify your prices. Ok, granted, we may never see a plushie hung at the Louvre, but anything handmade is a form of art, and you don't haggle over art.

If asked why you charge what you do, simply say "because that's what they're worth" or if asked about charges beyond materials, "because that's what my time & skill are worth".

IMO, your prices should not be about what it takes you to live on, but about the knowledge, talent & skill you put into your product. That's why the chef gets more money than the dishwasher. And the person making custom plushies gets more than the person selling cheapie tossed together toys at the local church bazaar. (Not to put down anyone who sells things at local bazaars, mind you).

[spark]

I answer "That's what I need to charge to make a living" because it shuts everybody who asks up. If I answer anything else, people always argue.