Let Me Tell You How I Really Feel

[Jester]

An introvert recharges by being by himself and loses energy by being around other people.

Even if this is true (and I have no idea if it is or is not), there are plenty of solitary things an introvert can do to enjoy themselves away from the home front.

Regarding the Bear-Hunter-Ranger thing... I think I have an explanation.

I read this sentence and shuddered. Even after reading the explanation, it still makes me shake my head. Both for the Sky Train drunks and for the employees of this screwy manager.

This is indeed my only plan. I require rest and the silence that only hiding from humanity can grant me.

I am not the type of person who can combine "go out" and "have fun". Such things bring me no amusement. Also, I could not become that which I hate on transit.

Okay, I can see spending a few days doing this, but your whole vacation? Really? There is nothing outside of your domicile that you enjoy doing? Even by yourself?

Look, I know that you and I are probably not going to enjoy the same things recreationally. I am your polar opposite when it comes to stuff like this. Hell, there are times I AM the drunken idiot on the Sky Train that makes you shudder. (Metaphorically speaking, as I have never actually been on the Sky Train or even in Canada.) But I have enjoyed many things solitarily away from my bed and tv, and I can't imagine that you have nothing beyond your doors that pleases you.

I DO understand hiding from humanity (I've done it myself), but this? Really? Has your job run you down this much? If so, you NEED a new job, my friend. And pronto!

Not knowing what squirrel tastes like prevents me from being able to quantify its meal placement. I probably should have assumed that it, like all other things, tastes like chicken and moved it into the lunch or dinner bracket.

I've never tasted squirrel either. I was merely making a joke.

...actually the whole thing about women seeing more colors than men is a widespread but false myth.

There's no evidence, physiologically or linguistically, that men and women see colors differently.

This is both true and false.

"But Jester, how could that be?"

Simple. While in general there is no difference between the genders regarding this, the fact remains that men ARE more prone to color-blindness than women are. I myself am slightly colorblind (they tell me I'm "color-deficient"), and have trouble distinguishing some shades of greens from each other, and some shades of reds from each other. I know that some shades of pink are completely unseeable to me. (I once bought a beige rug from a female student in my dorm, only to be laughed at by my buddies for buying what was actually a pink rug.)

So while non-colorblind people will see colors about the same, regardless of gender, there are more guys who just can't see all the colors the right way.

So as I said, this theory is both true and false. See how that works?

From Big Bang Theory. Sheldon had a theory that Rock-Paper-Scissors was too limiting, so he invented this variation. But it didn't work, because everyone ALWAYS picked Spock.

So....what beats Spock then?

[Darkforge]

So....what beats Spock then?

paper and Lizard, but why would you not pick spock if you had the option?

[Gravekeeper]

I sitll don't buy it.
I really don't think it's because people can't see colors until they have a way to name them so much as most people just don't care. To some, Dove, Smoke, and Ash have meaning, to others they're all just Grey.

Your brain will lump similar hues together if it does not have a seperate name for them. Exactly as you just described. Someone may see Dove, Smoke and Ash as all just grey. While someone else may actually see Dove, Smoke and Ash. Because the latter person learned to tell them apart.

The more colours your language has words for and the more you learned said words allows you to essentially learn to see those colours by being able to make distinctions between them. Its actually quite logical and its not a matter of "buying it" as I'm just paraphrasing research papers.

So yes, some people percieve Dove, Smoke and Ash. Others percieve only grey. Because the latter never learned to see them as seperate colours. This is going to be shaped by language, culture and interests rather than gender though. ( An artist or interior designer is naturally going to know and thus "see" more colours. Joe Bob the mechanic is just going to call them all grey. ).

Okay, I can see spending a few days doing this, but your whole vacation? Really? There is nothing outside of your domicile that you enjoy doing? Even by yourself?

Not really, no. I'm an introvert, but more importantly I am a god damn tired introvert. Couple how long its been since I've had any time off, even a sick day, with the fact I work only night shifts and I mainly just need rest.

I mean I'm not hiding indoors entirely, with the door locked, under the blankets clutching a knife. I still go out daily to run errands, shop and the like. I just have no interest in going anywhere or really doing anything right now. As its draining rather than recharging.

[Andara Bledin]

So yes, some people percieve Dove, Smoke and Ash. Others percieve only grey. Because the latter never learned to see them as seperate colours. This is going to be shaped by language, culture and interests rather than gender though. ( An artist or interior designer is naturally going to know and thus "see" more colours. Joe Bob the mechanic is just going to call them all grey. ).

I'm wondering if this isn't so much about whether people can actually distinguish differences in color shades as it is about them not being able to actually describe the subtle differences they are seeing.

*shrug* Amounts to nearly the same thing, in the end.

^-.-^

[Gravekeeper]

I'm wondering if this isn't so much about whether people can actually distinguish differences in color shades as it is about them not being able to actually describe the subtle differences they are seeing.

*shrug* Amounts to nearly the same thing, in the end.

^-.-^

Its more about distinguishing. Language, and even the language you speak natively, has a profound effect on the way you think. Its quite fascinating, really. -.-

[Chromatix]

If I had to guess, I would say that Smoke was a dark grey, Dove a medium grey, and Ash a light grey. But I would call them by the latter names rather than the former.

Here's another example of colour madness:


How many colours can you identify on that?

[Krivak]

i see about 15, counting the gradual light blue to dark blue as 2, door as 1, wavy front wavelength decals as 4, etc. >_>

[Andara Bledin]

How many colours can you identify on that?

There are at least ten, before you start getting into the gradient shift from the lighter to the darker blue or the various shifts in the colored squiggles on the side.

Although I suspect that most of the major shades of blue are represented in the dot pattern in front of the squiggles, which is too small in that picture to really get into.

i see about 15, counting the gradual light blue to dark blue as 2, door as 1, wavy front wavelength decals as 4, etc. >_>

It's hard to tell, but the top is the same color as the darkest section of the blue gradient on the side as well as the same color as the part of the logo and the carriage number. The red on the front (both logo and line) is probably the same color as the doors, even though it looks a bit orange along the top of the wind screen, and it looks a bit magenta in the logo.

^-.-^

[El Pollo Guerrera]

paper and Lizard, but why would you not pick spock if you had the option?

How about RPS25?



There's also an online version of Rock-Paper-Scissors with 1010 variations...

[Chromatix]

There are at least ten, before you start getting into the gradient shift from the lighter to the darker blue or the various shifts in the colored squiggles on the side.

Although I suspect that most of the major shades of blue are represented in the dot pattern in front of the squiggles, which is too small in that picture to really get into.

It's hard to tell, but the top is the same color as the darkest section of the blue gradient on the side as well as the same color as the part of the logo and the carriage number. The red on the front (both logo and line) is probably the same color as the doors, even though it looks a bit orange along the top of the wind screen, and it looks a bit magenta in the logo.

^-.-^

My computer says that, after quantising to 4 bits per channel, there are 1215 colours in the whole image. However, the whole image looks basically correct with a well-optimised 64-colour palette. (That's including the platform and the old mill/warehouse in the background.)

The unit number is clearly black, not dark blue. But due to the gloss finish, it is hard to tell what precisely has been used above the cantrail (the orange line). So, counting only the train itself:

Dark grey (underframe).
Yellow (cab front, lifting bracket). (It's really a slightly orange shade, but it's officially called yellow.)
Orange (cantrail).
Sky blue (upper side and roof).
Violet (lower side).
Magenta (part of wave).
Red (doors, F logo).
White (part of wave, door outline).
Cyan (part of wave).
Black (unit number, cab window surrounds).
Light grey (headlight surrounds).
Slate grey (top of cab front).

Obviously there are more colours identifiable as part of the blue-violet gradient, but those are not discretely used anywhere. So I'd say you could do a decent job of painting the train with a 16-colour palette.

[C. Cecil Ivanish]

Save your time. They had it on the shelf at Barnes & Nobles here in the U.S. last Friday when I was there.

*THERE* in the US you mean?

Your brain will lump similar hues together if it does not have a seperate name for them. Exactly as you just described. Someone may see Dove, Smoke and Ash as all just grey.

I find it more likely that such someone will notice that they are slightly different shades of gray, but if they don't know the exact definition of "dove, smoke and ash" they will say something like "Yes, gray. Not THAT gray, the OTHER gray... the prettier gray". All this while on the phone with GK, of course.

I still go out daily to run errands, shop and the like.

...are you aware that karma will give you tons of Lupo experiences, now that you said it so openly?

Its more about distinguishing. Language, and even the language you speak natively, has a profound effect on the way you think. Its quite fascinating, really.

I agree 100%. I realised that I have a different way of thinking when I am focusing in Italian, in English or in Spanish.

If I had to guess, I would say that Smoke was a dark grey, Dove a medium grey, Here's another example of colour madness:
[image removed]How many colours can you identify on that?

On the train itself only, 7. Dark blue, light blue, red, yellow, orange, white and pink.

[Sapphire Silk]

I mean I'm not hiding indoors entirely, with the door locked, under the blankets clutching a knife. I still go out daily to run errands, shop and the like. I just have no interest in going anywhere or really doing anything right now. As its draining rather than recharging.

Actually, I get you. I'm the same way; I have days when I just don't want to go outside of the house. It is actually a relief to just sack out on a couch and watch TV all day.

Of course, the errands all pile up, but still . . .

Hope you enjoy your vacation

i see about 15, counting the gradual light blue to dark blue as 2, door as 1, wavy front wavelength decals as 4, etc. >_>

My computer says that, after quantising to 4 bits per channel, there are 1215 colours in the whole image. However, the whole image looks basically correct with a well-optimised 64-colour palette. (That's including the platform and the old mill/warehouse in the background.)

There's also a sea green on a car in the parking lot in the background

I did a quick count and got about 30 colors myself.

[Mikkel]

I mean I'm not hiding indoors entirely, with the door locked, under the blankets clutching a knife. I still go out daily to run errands, shop and the like. I just have no interest in going anywhere or really doing anything right now. As its draining rather than recharging.

Your cat will love you for it. Mine enjoyed this summer while I were on chemo. They'd spend most day bundled by my feet on the couch, wearing very smug expressions .
Relax, pet the cat and remember to post about the people you meet when you are out shopping.

[Geek King]

*THERE* in the US you mean?

"There" meaning the Barnes & Nobles, that is here in the U.S., so, ultimately, yes.

[Bardmaiden]

How many colours can you identify on that?

I see a train/train company that my b/f works for with a terrible colour scheme (but by no means the only train company without taste...) Oh and they don't really use Class 170's much these days more Class 185's and I really know more about trains than I really need too lol