...This Explains So Much. aka Seraph Finally Figured It Out.

[EricKei]

I hate to be a spoilsport, but...

Just be careful if yer serious about calling him -- Seraph could certainly call him (in a non-"harassing" way) with no trouble and tell him to stop...PS record the call if it's allowed (read: 100% legal) where you are!

...But anyone else? No matter how justified it may be, it could get the caller into serious legal trouble. He could sue YOU for harassing HIM, at the very least. The only person who should be making calls to this guy is probably Seraph's attorney. Yes, I know you could very well just be venting, but ... ^_^;>

[MystyGlyttyr]

He wants to be a WWE wrestler?

Yeahhhhhh, Vince is nuts, but...he's not that nuts. And if he were that nuts, that idiot would take one step backstage and Taker would just flat out eat him. Plus I'm pretty sure my six-year-old nieces could break this guy. He'd take one bump and bawl for an hour.

[Mystic]

I've worked for WWE on and off for many years... there is no way that guy would ever have a chance to work for them. lol

[RootedPhoenix]

You couldn't pay me to fight with my family.

...and should someone want to, $50-$100 per fight event...seems a bit too little for me.

Jerry Springer is very O_o to me anyway, maybe that's why.

[MournBlade]

What a winner uh, erm whiner aha wiener!
Hillbilly redneck jackhole surprised he knows his head from his ass, on second thought he might not.
Celebretard going around bragging about being famous - idjit

[Hanzoku]

Have you saved a copy of the video? If he does manage to start harassing you, that's probably good circumstantial evidence to the police that he poses a threat to your safety.

[Seshat]

you get paid, I know because my mom wanted to go on it, due to her age, they also wanted me to join, to give the audience some "Kattfighting" $25 if I screamed at her, $50 for hair pulling, and $100 for each time the security guys had to grab me.

That explains a lot.

Slightly more disturbing update:

Just was informed that this guy is now looking harder for me...and has been approaching people in my industry asking if they know my number

Seraph, have you considered paying for one of those investigation fees where you can look up the person's actual information? It might give you a clue to his whereabouts (assuming he has left Chicago since the taping). Any info like that should help you out.

Noone - but NO ONE - is as anonymous as they think they are, on the internetz. No matter how many proxying services and other hiding techniques you use, somewhere there's a sysadmin who knows exactly which modem/router you're using to connect to the 'net with, and quite possibly exactly which terminal. And if it's a router/modem, they probably know which street address it was installed on. If you're using a wireless, the direction and distance from the access point can be collected, if only by triangulation with additional access points.

Now, one of my uni profs made sure we understood, deep in our guts, that as comp scientists we would be obtaining access to peoples' personal information, and that betraying that would almost certainly mean we didn't get to work in the industry ever again.
But passing identifying information and/or location information to police with a legitimate warrant is not betrayal - in fact, failing to do so would be the problem.

Seraph dear, you or your friends give the police as much information as you have about the harassing internet info he's using. If you know how to get 'full headers' from emails, do that (if not, and the police bring a computing specialist, stand back and let them do it).
The police can backtrack via cooperative sysadmins, and track him right to his front door or internet cafe.

The only time there's a problem is if there's an anonymising proxy server in the path, but even then, some creative routing diagnostics will sometimes bypass the anonymiser.

[xx_wolfie_xx]

Hon, I say this with all love and respect to you, but seriously where the hell do you find these people?!

[lupo pazzesco]

Hon, I say this with all love and respect to you, but seriously where the hell do you find these people?!

...

The internet. Duh.

[Seraph]

Noone - but NO ONE - is as anonymous as they think they are, on the internetz.

I am completely aware of this, I know without a doubt that someone could find me if they really, REALLY wanted....but this guy is going to have an extremely difficult time doing so, he's not *that* savvy, thankfully.

Seraph dear, you or your friends give the police as much information as you have about the harassing internet info he's using. If you know how to get 'full headers' from emails, do that (if not, and the police bring a computing specialist, stand back and let them do it).

I've asked the guy currently being harassed to. He approached the police yesterday, and was told there was nothing they could do as "it was across state lines". Last time I went to my own police station, when my sites were under direct attack and I'd even gotten a set of extortion attempts via email.....our local police said they couldn't understand it, and dismissed everything.

My friend is going to the FBI about it this week, because....well....he doesn't know who else to go to. We'll see what happens, and yep....already pulled full headers from dorkface's emails and have been saving every scrap of info I come across.

Hon, I say this with all love and respect to you, but seriously where the hell do you find these people?!

....Internet.

Also, this specific industry. Its ridiculous. Since the main draw of this industry is "make money quick", you can imagine the types it attracts.

I hate to be a spoilsport, but...

Just be careful if yer serious about calling him -- Seraph could certainly call him (in a non-"harassing" way) with no trouble and tell him to stop...PS record the call if it's allowed (read: 100% legal) where you are!

...But anyone else? No matter how justified it may be, it could get the caller into serious legal trouble. He could sue YOU for harassing HIM, at the very least. The only person who should be making calls to this guy is probably Seraph's attorney. Yes, I know you could very well just be venting, but ... ^_^;>

I'm completely aware of this as well, trust me. Which is why I'm letting people have their fun, LOL.

Have you saved a copy of the video? If he does manage to start harassing you, that's probably good circumstantial evidence to the police that he poses a threat to your safety.

Haven't yet, but that's a good idea.


Edit: OMFG Hanzoku, thank you for this. Went to go save the videos, and he JUST, I mean JUST uploaded a new video of him ranting, saying my friend's address, and how he's going over there to f**k him up. Saving it, sending my buddy a copy, and telling him to GO TO THE POLICE NOW.

[Seshat]

My friend is going to the FBI about it this week, because....well....he doesn't know who else to go to. We'll see what happens, and yep....already pulled full headers from dorkface's emails and have been saving every scrap of info I come across.

In Australia, a lot of computer-based crime comes under the Federal Police' jurisdiction. Mostly because it does cross state lines, or country lines, so much of the time.
Also, the AFP (Aust. Federal Police) collect the most computer-savvy cops.

[Fudgethatkay]

Edit: OMFG Hanzoku, thank you for this. Went to go save the videos, and he JUST, I mean JUST uploaded a new video of him ranting, saying my friend's address, and how he's going over there to f**k him up. Saving it, sending my buddy a copy, and telling him to GO TO THE POLICE NOW.

Where is he uploading this?

[PepperElf]

Considering he's creating quite a "paper trail" - or at least an internet trail - of his attempts to find your number, possibly your address, and is posting videos on how to conduct home invasion...

i was going to suggest going to the fbi but i don't know how "serious" a case has to be before they get involved.

however in looking up stuff about stalking - especially since this seems to be across state lines possibly, i did find this site: http://www.victimsofcrime.org/home

they might help in finding someone to talk to about how to put a stop to his stalking... especially since he's stalking more than one person. it can't hurt to try i guess.

if not that then perhaps someone in your local county office, although i'd recommend bringing as much documentation as you can find.

[Seraph]

Where is he uploading this?

Youtube, like an idiot.

[Fudgethatkay]

Youtube, like an idiot.

can you link me in pm? if its allowed, i wanna see this video...