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  • #31
    Per http://www.chaosmatrix.org/library/humor/hell.html

    .....

    Is Hell Exothermic Or Endothermic?
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    A true story: A thermodynamics professor had written a take home exam for his graduate students. It had one question:

    Is hell exothermic or endothermic?
    Support your answer with a proof.
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    Most of the students wrote proofs of their beliefs using Boyle's Law or some variant.

    One student, however wrote the following:

    First, we postulate that if souls exist, they must have some mass. If they do, then a mole of souls can also have a mass. So, at what rate are souls moving into hell and at what rate are souls leaving?

    I think that we can safely assume that once a soul gets to hell, it will not leave. Therefore, no souls are leaving. As for souls entering hell, lets look at the different religions that exist in the world today. Some of these religions state that if you are not a member of their religion, you will go to hell. Since there are more than one of these religions and people do not belong to more than one religion, we can project that all people and all souls go to hell.

    With birth and death rates as they are, we can expect the number of souls in hell to increase exponentially.

    Now, we look at the rate of change in volume in hell. Boyle's Law states that in order for the temperature and pressure in hell to stay the same, the ratio of the mass of souls and volume needs to stay constant.

    1) So, if hell is expanding at a slower rate than the rate at which souls enter hell, then the temperature and pressure in hell will increase until all hell breaks loose.

    2) Of course, if hell is expanding at a rate faster than the increase of souls in hell, then the temperature and pressure will drop until hell freezes over.
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    The student got the only A.
    hea·then [hee-thuhn] noun
    1. an unconverted individual that does not acknowledge the God of the Bible.
    2. an irreligious, uncultured, or uncivilized person.
    3. the children of NotSoInnocent.

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    • #32
      No no, that's a REAL missionary. I mean a self appointed street ranter. ^^

      Yes, people do swap religions but I don't believe its because someone sales pitched it to them or fear mongered them into it. Which are the two major tactics. I went with Buddhism because it was as close to what I'd figured out on my own as I had seen in any belief system. Some churches (Usually the most painfully vocal), regardless of religion, have this us vs them crap going on which feels like a throw back to the dark ages when we burned everyone that didn't agree with us at the stake.

      I got this news letter in the mail yesterday from a roman catholic church in the states thats trying to organize resistance to some new hate crime law because it includes protection homosexuals and trans gendered people. It was the most painfully ignorant thing I've read in a LONG time. I still wince when I think about it. But I know thats not all catholics. Thats just one group of nutjobs with a printer somewhere.

      I was raised Catholic, I went to Sunday school and all that fun stuff. Once I was old enough to form my own opinions I just didn't agree anymore. Wasn't for me. My mom's still Christian, and we compared notes quite often. ;p

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      • #33
        Quoth Andara Bledin View Post

        I have, however, run into two separate self-proclaimed Christians who proceeded to cuss me out and tell me I was damned for having the audacity to not want to listen to them preach at me.
        Just smile innocently and say, "Does that mean I won't have to see you again?"

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        • #34
          Quoth RecoveringKinkoid View Post
          Unfortunately, those kind are the ones you notice. And since those are the only ones you notice, the ones making spectacles of themselves, you very reasonably assume all Christians are like that. The truth is that the majority of Christians are not like that. And we get as annoyed with with the ones you mention as much as, if not MORE SO, than you do. After all, they make us look terrible to a lot of people.

          A friend once made a very good point: If you have one group of 100 orange people, and then one purple person, and you meet a single representative of each group, it's easy to believe there are as many purple people as orange ones. You are encountering the loud, vocal, nutty minority of us, and thinking we are all that way. Just remember the subtle ones are all around you in legions, and you'll never notice them because they don't try to force their ways down your throat.
          Nah. I've known way too many really cool people who followed a variety of different religions and different flavors within those religions, to know better than to assume that a couple of loud asshats are any type of representative.

          Besides, I'm a member of the furry community, so I know all about how a few weirdo fringe types can cause public revulsion for the thousands of relatively normal people who happen to also be part of the fandom.

          ^-.-^
          Faith is about what you do. It's about aspiring to be better and nobler and kinder than you are. It's about making sacrifices for the good of others. - Dresden

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          • #35
            Quoth Andara Bledin View Post

            Besides, I'm a member of the furry community, so I know all about how a few weirdo fringe types can cause public revulsion for the thousands of relatively normal people who happen to also be part of the fandom.
            Woot! hey, you a fan of 2Sense?

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            • #36
              NotSoInnocent, funny story.

              Gravekeeper, I'm sorry to hear that a church put out that kind of letter in the mail - or that they think that at all. It's certainly against Jesus's teachings. I truly don't believe God wants ANY of us to be victims of a hate crime.

              I really love that my church doesn't get behind political stuff. They don't send out mailings like that and they don't have meetings or "resistance groups" on different political proposals. Our chuch has said in the past - look to the Bible for guidance - but our ministers don't preach one way or another on political matters. There are some instances where I would like to know what some of our church leaders think about something, but overall, I think it's good that they don't make decisions for everyone in the church (by stating their opinion & expecting everyone to believe the same thing) - they let us make the decision on our own about political matters. Not every church is like that. Unfortunately. And I think a lot of people will use religion to push their own political agenda. And that's wrong. And sad. And manipulative.

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              • #37
                I am Christian, but I do not go to Church. I do not read the Bible, but I still believe in God. I also believe that ever religion is valid. I have a Grandfather, uncles, who are Preachers. But they do not go around and try to convert everyone into their religion. I also dislike being told I should be whatever religion
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                • #38
                  Quoth Tria View Post
                  Woot! hey, you a fan of 2Sense?
                  Woot for ranting gryphons. I've actually got most of his rants saved to my computer at home and have caught a couple of rants in person, too.

                  ^-.-^
                  Faith is about what you do. It's about aspiring to be better and nobler and kinder than you are. It's about making sacrifices for the good of others. - Dresden

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                  • #39
                    I was raised protestant, but I'm more non-denom Christian now.

                    If God's smart enough to create the universe from nothing, and bestow intelligence on mankind, then I should be smart enough to be able to pray to and worship Him without someone behind a pulpit telling me what the Bible ACTUALLY means (according to his interpretation)
                    "Time shall help me face my painful memories with indifference, and with more of it, I won't feel the need to face them at all..."

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                    • #40
                      Eeep sorry, i was ranting about the SCs who keep preaching and stating some of my come backs.... i didnt want to start a religiose depate....

                      SORRY SORRY

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                      • #41
                        Quoth Boozy View Post
                        My huge extended family, encompassing all faiths, gets together once a year in December to celebrate:

                        "CHEERY BIG WINTER DAY"

                        My sister coined the term at the age of twelve, and it stuck.
                        Oh yeah? What if you have a friend/relative from say, Australia or other southern hemisphere place where it's summer during December?

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                        • #42
                          Quoth draggar View Post
                          No, the pentagram is NOT a sign of the devil. An upside down pentagram is, just like an upside down cross.
                          It's also just the 2nd degree on some paths. Draggar, have you ever had someone tell you "nice Star of David" when you're wearing a pentagram? I got that once. What made me start laughing (other than one has 5 points, the other 6) was the fact that mine was in a circle! When have you ever seen an encircled Star of David?


                          Quoth Mongo Skruddgemire View Post
                          Nah...you wanna really freak someone out? Find yourself in a small town that has a church that does a maypole dance every spring and some church leaders who turn their nose at you since you don't attend.

                          Then explain that the whole of the maypole dance is a fertility ritual and then watch their little heads explode.
                          Then show them some pictures of Beltane from Calton Hill! http://gallery.beltane.org/bin/scry/


                          I know it's a from a movie based on a work of fiction, but one of my favorite things is the point Dr. Lee Teabing made in the DaVinci Code. To paraphrase, "Jesus was a man of peace and we've spent the last 2000 yrs killing each other over it." I get the distinct impression that what some, some radicals (and every religion/faith has got 'em) is not what he wanted.

                          And in the immortal words of Rodney King, "can't we all just get along"!!
                          It's floating wicker propelled by fire!

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                          • #43
                            I wouldn't have a problem with all of the devout ranting 'The Bible is the law of God!' people if they actually took their own advice and followed all the laws in the Bible! I want to see some of them get proactive and start stoning their kids to death for being disobedient and killing people for working on the Sabbath!

                            Oh, wait, they can't do that because the Bible also says 'Thou Shalt Not Kill.' (Which could have also been interperted as 'Thou Shalt Not Murder', but both are equally valid now.)

                            I've got no problem with any religion. Neither is better then the other, neither is more correct, and none of them can be interperted as strict rulesets because the rules they lay down are for civilizations centuries gone.

                            Besides, I'm fine with being a Deist. I get all of the God and none of the nasty rules.
                            Burn the land and boil the sea, you can't take the sky from me!

                            I like big bots and I cannot lie.

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                            • #44
                              I started having doubts about my catholic school in grade one when I opened my lil Christian book and fell on "The jews were evil and killed Jesus".

                              Dear god, I was in a Fanatic school.

                              You wouldn't believe my teachers. Drag us to church in the morning, drag us back, get the whole class turned against you for refusing to go tell your sin to the priest...

                              Thank you God for not letting me turn into one of them with the peer Pressure vaccine.

                              For the record, Jewish people were not and are not evil, nor did they kill Jesus. Last time I checked, the people that killed Jesus were wearing plated armor and helmets and spoke Latin, not yiddish.

                              Me I always thought that there were many religions because God wanted to make himself known to all his people, so he sent SEVERAL messengers to different part of the world, and it evolved from there.

                              The people that didn't need messengers worshipped Nature.

                              And finally, God on homosexuality. Here is what I think, and what I think is not LAW because I'm catholic.

                              While yes indeed, in the Bible, God did not like Sodom and Gomorrha, it was because they were violent, slutty people. Anti-gay preaching people think it was only because they were gay, but being gay had nothing to do with it. They just liked to screw anything in their path.

                              We all know real Homosexuals aren't like that.

                              One of God's messages was "Be fruitful and multiply." Which is why society in that time did not look well towards homosexuality.

                              People, we are SIX BILLION on earth! Leave the gays alone! We are plentiful fruitful, they're not hurting anybody!

                              And that was my opinion.
                              Now would be a good time to visit So Very Unofficial!

                              "I've had so many nasty customers this week, my bottomless pit is now ankle-deep."-Me.

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                              • #45
                                Quoth Sliceanddice View Post
                                Eeep sorry, i was ranting about the SCs who keep preaching and stating some of my come backs.... i didnt want to start a religiose depate....

                                SORRY SORRY
                                Ah, well, that's why you saw the moderator warnings go up fairly quickly. Religion is one of those thigns were almost everyone has an opinion, and many people (even the normally quiet ones) feel that damn it, everyone else is entitled to hear it, come hell or high water.

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