How about you learn to READ?!

[depechemodefan]

They have us wear uniforms at the library now. We have to wear a shirt/polo shirt the library provided (only 4 shirts provided) that has the name of the library on the shirt. It's so we are visible to the public. The librarians pointed out that employees of Target wear red shirts. I still get people asking me "Do you work here?" and I point to the library name. NOt that I think they acutally read it. But I get an "oh". I can't wait till someone tells me I'm being a smart alec.

[Geek King]

This means the larger ones, like the ever-popular 4-D version and especially the 6-D, are capable of some heavy damage, but at the cost of being slow and clunky.

I have the 6-D, and I wouldn't call it slow and clunky at all. Especially if you're holding it up by the head, and the haft/battery case is running along your forearm. It becomes rather tonfa-like. Not that I've ever used it like that...

[Leopardmadcat]

They should consider what Japanese Libraries do: Armbands! You can safety-pin them to practically anything, it marks you out distinctly, and it's cheaper! (the library will like that last bit!)

Then again with the observation skills of the typical SC you need shirts with huge scrolling and flashing LED displays!

[JustADude]

I have the 6-D, and I wouldn't call it slow and clunky at all. Especially if you're holding it up by the head, and the haft/battery case is running along your forearm. It becomes rather tonfa-like. Not that I've ever used it like that...

Compare that to the impact force you can get from the large-size ASP Batons, and you'll find it's quite slow and clunky in comparison. Of course, that's 'in comparison'.

[crazylegs]

Compare that to the impact force you can get from the large-size ASP Batons, and you'll find it's quite slow and clunky in comparison. Of course, that's 'in comparison'.

ASPs have to be extended first, the mag lite is always ready.

[Sparky]

I interrupt this weapons discussion to point out that back when I was a young girl, this being the days when dinosaurs roamed the Earth and cell phones were science fiction, we were instructed that if we noticed someone following us we should drive to the police station. And if the stalker was stupid enough not to drive away immediately, we should sit in our locked car an honk the horn until a police office came to our aid.

[Jester]

This means the larger ones, like the ever-popular 4-D version and especially the 6-D, are capable of some heavy damage, but at the cost of being slow and clunky.

I disagree that they are slow or clunky. I have the 3-D version, and it is (relatively) light and compact, but it is still pretty hefty, and I imagine packs quite a wallop.

I have the 6-D, and I wouldn't call it slow and clunky at all. Especially if you're holding it up by the head, and the haft/battery case is running along your forearm.

That is the way you SHOULD hold it, and the way cops hold it....and for reasons. It puts the Mag in a ready strike position, it makes the swing that much faster, and it makes the butt end the "business" end. I used to wonder why cops held their flashlights in that awkward looking way; that was before I realized that the flashlight is not just their to illuminated their work!

This means they have a legitimate reason to be immediately accessible in a way that a sawed-off pool cue, baseball bat, lead pipe, crowbar, or even tire-iron don't.

Which is one reason a Mag IS the perfect vehicle-stored weapon, when you think about it. And I dare say it is a good deal faster than many of the other items mentioned, and more compact, to boot!

Compare that to the impact force you can get from the large-size ASP Batons, and you'll find it's quite slow and clunky in comparison. Of course, that's 'in comparison'.

And those Batons are not always legal, either.

I interrupt this weapons discussion to point out that back when I was a young girl, this being the days when dinosaurs roamed the Earth and cell phones were science fiction, we were instructed that if we noticed someone following us we should drive to the police station. And if the stalker was stupid enough not to drive away immediately, we should sit in our locked car an honk the horn until a police office came to our aid.

Yes, but that is not always feasible, as you don't always KNOW where the cop shop is, or you might be nowhere near it when this type of incident occurs.....

[mattm04]

Actually, when I traveled the country, I had a baseball bat right behind my seat. And not far from them, I had a glove and ball, just in case someone questioned the bat.......hey, what can I say? I like baseball?

But if you don't want to do that, I recommend a Mag-Lite. It's one of those heavy duty flashlights police use. I have the 3D (3 D batteries) version, a lot of cops have those or 4 D ones. Not only is it useful to have a flashlight on hand in your car for all kinds of reasons, Mag-Lites make very effective batons/skull crackers. There's a REASON cops hold the Mags they way they do, so that if they need to swing it with the butt end coming down on someone, it is ready to go. By the way, this is one of those instances where I would NOT go with an off-brand. I had a cheaper version of a Mag-Lite for about five minutes once. It felt flimsy in my hand, and I had no confidence in it as a weapon, so I returned it and got the real deal.

No, I have never had to use my Mag as anything but a flashlight, but it IS nice to have handy for its other purpose. Plus, they are just kickass flashlights. And totally, completely, 100% legal.

I have a 3D Mag-Lite. I even had the plastic orange cone that you put on the end to direct traffic with. I sometimes help with the parking lot at events at my church. I usually hod the light in a similar position to the way the Police do. I just find it easier.

[xaenon]

Just as an F.Y.I. for those that have never seen/held a Mag-Lite: They are made of heavy-grade anodized aluminum that, when filled with batteries, effectively mass the same as a solid metal bar of the same length and diameter. This means the larger ones, like the ever-popular 4-D version and especially the 6-D, are capable of some heavy damage, but at the cost of being slow and clunky.

If you have an excuse to have one at hand, a crowbar would be your best bet, since it has about the same mass and you can get more impact force thanks to the leverage from the longer length. As Jester mentioned, though, the Mag-Lites are primarially implements, implements that serve as sources of illumination. This means they have a legitimate reason to be immediately accessible in a way that a sawed-off pool cue, baseball bat, lead pipe, crowbar, or even tire-iron don't.

I used to work part-time delivering pizza, and one of the neighborhoods we
delivered to was one where folks usually didn't want to be out and about after
dark. I carried a 3xD Mag with me at all times after dark, even had the plastic
cop-style loop for it on my belt (well, you had to put the damned thing SOME-
WHERE when counting out a customer's change!). I'm glad I never had to use
it for its 'alternate' purpose, but the point was you never knew what was behind
that bush or around a corner or whatever. Pizza drivers get robbed all the
time, the shirt and hat with the restaurant's name were an eye-searing neon-
green 'MUG ME' sign (and I'm serious about the neon-green bit!). I got stopped
by the cops a couple of times while driving in this neighborhood (kind of goes with
the territory when you're a delivery driver) and never once did the officer give me
grief about having a 'heavy, blunt instrument that doubled as a flashlight' in
my car.

[AdvancedFlea]

Then again with the observation skills of the typical SC you need shirts with huge scrolling and flashing LED displays!

you know you can actually get those? lol

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Yd99gyE4jCk

Philips. Sense and simplicity XD

[Gothicsmurf]

I would have threated to go to HIS super for being such an ass weed.

[Exodus212]

I have this to say: !!!!!

[AdvancedFlea]

thankies

[radiocerk]

alernative crowd-control

I have a walking stick in my car. It happens to be multi-layer fiberglass with a stainless steel head I can put through a cinder block, but it's just a walking stick. Add two sprined ankles, two sprained knees, and one sprained hip, any or all of which will act up at odd moments, and I have the perfect reason to have one.
And of course the 4 cell mag.

[AdvancedFlea]

I have a walking stick in my car. It happens to be multi-layer fiberglass with a stainless steel head I can put through a cinder block, but it's just a walking stick. Add two sprined ankles, two sprained knees, and one sprained hip, any or all of which will act up at odd moments, and I have the perfect reason to have one.
And of course the 4 cell mag.

a friend of mine has the same kinf od baseball bat in his car that I have. he has a genuine reason for it though. it's to start his car. Richie's car is a two-man job. one person turns the ignition key, the other whacks the starter motor as hard as he can